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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2023 9:19:59 GMT
Would believing all the casualty figures put out by Hamas make a person a Hamas supporter? If so, we have a few on this thread. The figures are not put out by Hamas.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 16, 2023 11:56:24 GMT
Would believing all the casualty figures put out by Hamas make a person a Hamas supporter? If so, we have a few on this thread. The figures are not put out by Hamas. really?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2023 11:59:57 GMT
The figures are not put out by Hamas. really? Really.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 16, 2023 12:12:03 GMT
Hamas are the government of Gaza, control the Gaza Health Ministry and yet the casualty figures are not from Hamas.. Well it's a view..
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 16, 2023 12:12:48 GMT
Friends of Hamas on the streets again last night..
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2023 13:03:01 GMT
Hamas are the government of Gaza, control the Gaza Health Ministry and yet the casualty figures are not from Hamas.. Well it's a view.. The Palestine authority are nothing to do with Hamas, they are recognised as the authority and they give out the information. You appear like others to believe that all Palestinians are members of Hamas.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2023 13:05:37 GMT
Friends of Hamas on the streets again last night.. Doesn't that depend on your idea of who is really at fault. The invaders or those that are defending. Would you not defend your home if it was invaded by a foreign power? Sorry, I know it's a question and you have an aversion to answers but, hey ho.
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Post by Vinny on Nov 16, 2023 13:16:37 GMT
Friends of Hamas on the streets again last night.. Doesn't that depend on your idea of who is really at fault. The invaders or those that are defending. Would you not defend your home if it was invaded by a foreign power? Sorry, I know it's a question and you have an aversion to answers but, hey ho. On the 6th of October 23, how many Israelis were there in Gaza?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2023 13:28:17 GMT
Doesn't that depend on your idea of who is really at fault. The invaders or those that are defending. Would you not defend your home if it was invaded by a foreign power? Sorry, I know it's a question and you have an aversion to answers but, hey ho. On the 6th of October 23, how many Israelis were there in Gaza? Visiting or on holiday? This is a very tired old excuse for stating that Gaza is not occupied, the UN class Gaza as an occupied territory due to it's control of everything that goes in and out.
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Post by Vinny on Nov 16, 2023 13:37:16 GMT
There would be no need of controls if Hamas weren't trying to import weapons, or kill Israelis all the time.
There are reasons.
What would you do if you were the PM of Israel and a terrorist organisation ideologically committed to the demise of all Jews neighboured you?
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Post by sandypine on Nov 16, 2023 13:40:37 GMT
I am not accusing anyone of anything and I did not accuses anyone of anything so hold your wheesht in that respect your last sentence is way off beam. I asked who was actually fighting the Israeli army. You now say it is HAMAS yet they must be doing that from the vicinity of or even from the safe haven buildings. HAMAS care little for the Palestinians as they are only too keen to place them in danger and sacrifice them as needed. Israel has teh fire power to flatten Gaza several times over but they are going from building to building to clear out HAMAS a difficult task and it is costing them military lives to be as careful as they can. If they did not care at all they would just blow the hospital and schools up, but they do not and still they are accused of Genocide. We have not actually seen any evidence that Hamas are using civilians as human shields, I may be wrong and evidence may come to light in the future. You said all those killed in Palestine were Hamas members, no matter how you attempt to change it that is a fact. There is much evidence as regards what is happening from both sides, there seems to be a HAMAS weapons cache in the hospital, not independently verified. Show me where I said that all those killed were HAMAS members.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2023 13:43:54 GMT
There would be no need of controls if Hamas weren't trying to import weapons, or kill Israelis all the time. There are reasons. What would you do if you were the PM of Israel and a terrorist organisation ideologically committed to the demise of all Jews neighboured you? Talk. It will happen in the end unless Israel wipes out Palestine.
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Post by Vinny on Nov 16, 2023 13:48:40 GMT
You cannot negotiate with those who want you dead.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2023 13:53:18 GMT
We have not actually seen any evidence that Hamas are using civilians as human shields, I may be wrong and evidence may come to light in the future. You said all those killed in Palestine were Hamas members, no matter how you attempt to change it that is a fact. There is much evidence as regards what is happening from both sides, there seems to be a HAMAS weapons cache in the hospital, not independently verified. Show me where I said that all those killed were HAMAS members. Sorry, you came into a conversation I was having with another poster. I find it strange that they are quick to show the weapons but no tunnels to what has been described as a 'massive control complex'.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2023 13:55:55 GMT
You cannot negotiate with those who want you dead. Hamas have made deals with Israel before in fact they were funded by Israel for a while.
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