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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 11, 2023 1:08:08 GMT
While all this commotion in the media was going on about war and trouble, there was something far more important to the UK going on and virtually unreported by the British media, and where it was reported, the public largely ignored it. I know there is a big thing at the moment about AI taking over the world and other Hollywood media circus stuff, but ignoring all of that there is something a bit sneaky going on.
We know the basic situation between the US the UK and China. The US tells us to sanction China and work as allies of the US and to follow its directives. One of which is the US is guarded about the UK integrating more with China on an industrial level. As you can probably figure out by now there are many economic advantages in working with China, not least of which is cheap imports which help to control the level of inflation. We also do a swift bit of trade in our universities teaching them and we do a bit more trade in tourism as middle class Chinese can now afford tickets to come and visit us, which they do like to do. However there are other advantages too. They have a lot of cash in the bank. They have bought some of our firms, like Sunseeker is a good example, where they inject a lot of capital and make the firm big and successful, far more so than typical stupid British management. Investment capital in industry available in the UK is very limited, but China is a heavy investor in industry, so ready with the the cash. The even bigger advantage though in my opinion is China's technical expertise, which is where it relates to the "safety summit".
We have a really big problem in this country to do with our economy, and if you drill down to see what is causing it, as per the root cause, it is low productivity. Each Brit hour of work yields less goods and services as measured by their market value than many other places. Many reasons exist like poor education, stupid management of resources, living in the past, doing things "the traditional way" and so on. So we need a kind of economic nitrous oxide kit to make the thing move faster.
Anyway, back to the safety summit, you can see why it is called a safety summit because it safely allows us to forge a friendlier relationship with China in the realm of AI without the US guessing what our game is. They actually told us they thought the summit was a great idea. They were of course invited but so was China, which caused a load of the US stooges in the British media to start flapping, but the thing was their flapping was skilfully neutralised. For a start we got Musk to turn up and he is a big fan of the Chinese. His firm is the fist western firm allowed to set up in China without a partnership with a local firm as is the rule. He got special permission from the party. We had 28 counties attend in total and in listening to parts of the conference myself I was personally impressed by how it created such a positive and cooperative attitude between nations, who managed to reach agreement by the end of it and are now going to do one in France and one in South Korea.
I listened to the Chinese speak and you really did get the impression they were very happy with it and most of all that they were actually invited agaisnt the backdrop of agro our government was getting over the decision. It got a good write-up in the Global Times which is the official paper of the party in China. This follows a meeting our government had with the Chinese government a short while back which was equally successful and both parties walked away thinking they were happy to talk. Anyway, what for the future. I think if the government plays it cards right we may well see offers of collaboration in AI, and if we get that far we could become very rich and see some GDP growth. UK officially stands at 3rd position in the world on AI and China in second place, but rising fast. Put 2nd and 3rd together and we could have some shithot AI systems. Factories can be made to run on their own. No train driver strikes as we wont need them! I leave you with a report from China pertaining to the summit, which is also happy-sounding. Yes I know they confused May with Truss, but never mind, the rest of the report is good.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Nov 11, 2023 8:43:35 GMT
Don’t worry, Baron … we won’t let the importance of this Conference drop off the UK/World radar …
From experience we know the American poodles to Israeli totalitarianism were having their economies torn apart by war-mongering Democrats/CIA that destroyed America’s economy when Trump was ousted.
Antagonism towards China was hyped, exaggerated and backward.
Britons no longer see a ‘special relationship’ with the evil vampire that is American/EU/Israeli Globalism that came in, asset-stripped, sucked the life out of and shut down so many UK businesses … and not just on our High Streets …. in their bid for World Domination.
Terry Gilliam briefly touched on how we should regard AI dropped in the other thread …
… but when it comes to safe guards on who initial controls, makes and programmes this new generation robot/software ‘intelligences’ … we also have to consider cyber security of these intelligences … vulnerable to AI Hackers …. highjacked by the master criminals of our current Globalist Mafias controlling the West right now.
The idea every device should have a ‘kill switch’ …. that can never be over-ridden and disabled … might be the most important decision made … to secure a future for Humanity.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 11, 2023 15:19:49 GMT
Don’t worry, Baron … we won’t let the importance of this Conference drop off the UK/World radar … From experience we know the American poodles to Israeli totalitarianism were having their economies torn apart by war-mongering Democrats/CIA that destroyed America’s economy when Trump was ousted. Antagonism towards China was hyped, exaggerated and backward. Britons no longer see a ‘special relationship’ with the evil vampire that is American/EU/Israeli Globalism that came in, asset-stripped, sucked the life out of and shut down so many UK businesses … and not just on our High Streets …. in their bid for World Domination. Terry Gilliam briefly touched on how we should regard AI dropped in the other thread … … but when it comes to safe guards on who initial controls, makes and programmes this new generation robot/software ‘intelligences’ … we also have to consider cyber security of these intelligences … vulnerable to AI Hackers …. highjacked by the master criminals of our current Globalist Mafias controlling the West right now. The idea every device should have a ‘kill switch’ …. that can never be over-ridden and disabled … might be the most important decision made … to secure a future for Humanity. I'm actually very encouraged by recent moves under Rishi Sunak to mend relations with China after that criminal took charge and started enacting US war policy. Rishi is like someone who is smarter than the people he governs. AI has not been moved to the front of the agenda through anything resembling populism. The public are Luddite. Rishi understands it from a business perspective. Like say we had AI trains and AI diggers that build the tracks. All this AI would slash ticket prices. Lets say you want the trains to go faster, so you look at the aerodynamics. How do you design a better aerodynamic shape - you set AI onto the task. There are millions of optimisation problems that until now we have used crude methods to solve. A powerful AI system will now always give you a better answer, and that better answer cuts costs, and generates less waste.
China is smart though and run by a chemical engineer. China has put a lot of effort into AI and made good progress. We have Demis Hassabis who most regard as the world's leading expert on AI. His new AI approach took AI capabilities to another level where it started to beat chess grandmasters and the like.China respects genius and in the field of AI we have a few Brits who are really doing very well, so you see what better way to form a new relationship with China. As my video points out towards the end, the US is still applying more and more sanctions to China and those sanctions are now including sanctioning AI chips. Where we drop into all of this should be to say, hey China, we can see the US is trying to destroy you, but we don't want to follow this stupidity and would like to work with you to create the best AI in the world and get on top! Over in China they want to do the same and work with us and get ahead in technology. There should be no fights. Cooperation will bring us such riches that who really cares for these petty disputes, e.g. US fining billions out of DJI for BS patent infringement. As a businessman you have to gloss over the tiny injustices because you are after the big picture. The intermediate steps are just the stepping stones.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 12, 2023 14:35:00 GMT
In trying to read between the lines here a bit, this is Shanghai Eye which as the message says under the video is funded by the Chinese state. As with all state media in China, they have a certain reporting style. They will showcase the good and positive steps China is taking on this or that issue. The fact they are covering it to me says that that state is happy with it and sees it as a bit of progress, which is the message you also get when listening to the Chinese delegates. There is this culture of deference to authority in China where what our leader says is seen as that which represents the British people, so words are very important. I think they like Rishi's approach in that he is positive-spirited about it, not defeatist or paranoid. They often see the US as paranoid, but Britain's style of cool and calm works much better with China.
The second reason why I think the state is happy was just about 6m ago the state broadcaster CGTN started to talk about AI safety in the sense that they were bringing it to debate as the government were looking to legislate. It's often a sign in China the law is about to change if the media start to debate a certain topic. They put the feelers out so the law works for everyone. So as you can see, there is much agreement between Rishi's government as led by him and China at the moment, which is a state of play China has been seeking for some time, ever since the US started to attack Huawei. Johnson was incredibly rude to them, so really put diplomatic relations right back. The foreign minister once said, look you guys, China is a friend of Britain. We can be your enemy if that is what you really want. None of these announcements ever make it into the British press, but fortunately that phase seems to have ended and it is now heading in the right direction, which I think President Xi would warmly approve personally. As you know, he carries the weight of authority. He's probably one of the most powerful people on the planet right now. That's power by consent though. He's not just powerful in his own country, but across large swathes of the global south as it is called. So this is no time for Britain to play the arsehole and it is not. It has sobered up.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Nov 21, 2023 10:28:36 GMT
Yes, we in the UK need to sober up rapidly over the duplicity being rolled out by the USA and Israeli/Religious Factions.
… step out of these shadows and move forward making new alliances with financial backers that don’t enslave, bully and suppress us … but want to advance pursuing peaceful projects … mutually good beneficial business alliances with respect for the other partner.
…. Not something we have had for years.
We have some good thinkers here … we are way behind the Far East and Indian continents in educational standards after slipping badly due to WOKE interferences in education these past 30 years … but there is hope we can get sound futurist thinkers into industry and modernise … once we have stability, religious factions are marginalised from key positions of control … and our security tightened, Communities protected from anarchist interference, and infrastructure/unity/solidarity restored to create a happy stable workforce for Industry. … then Brexit can move on to the next phase … as the EU, ISRAEL and the USA slips into more chaos.
WHAT THEY SOW … THEY ARE NOW REAPING …. best the UK detaches … and leaves them to their EVIL MISDIRECTION.
Removing Biden, Net+Yahoo and Ursula van der Leyen … breaking up the corruption that is the EU might turn those Countries around 180° … only then should we consider going back to doing ‘business’ (on our terms) with such rogue States.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 21, 2023 15:52:18 GMT
Yes, we in the UK need to sober up rapidly over the duplicity being rolled out by the USA and Israeli/Religious Factions. … step out of these shadows and move forward making new alliances with financial backers that don’t enslave, bully and suppress us … but want to advance pursuing peaceful projects … mutually good beneficial business alliances with respect for the other partner. …. Not something we have had for years. We have some good thinkers here … we are way behind the Far East and Indian continents in educational standards after slipping badly due to WOKE interferences in education these past 30 years … but there is hope we can get sound futurist thinkers into industry and modernise … once we have stability, religious factions are marginalised from key positions of control … and our security tightened, Communities protected from anarchist interference, and infrastructure/unity/solidarity restored to create a happy stable workforce for Industry. … then Brexit can move on to the next phase … as the EU, ISRAEL and the USA slips into more chaos. WHAT THEY SOW … THEY ARE NOW REAPING …. best the UK detaches … and leaves them to their EVIL MISDIRECTION. Removing Biden, Net+Yahoo and Ursula van der Leyen … breaking up the corruption that is the EU might turn those Countries around 180° … only then should we consider going back to doing ‘business’ (on our terms) with such rogue States. What we in the UK aught to do is to help China develop the next generations of microchips. We should focus on all technologies that pertain to the manufacture of microchips, including material science for things like photoresist, nano technology, photonics, quantum computing, chip stacking and packaging, tool chain software development and so on. I believe the epicentre of microchip manufacture is going to jump over the Taiwan Strait pretty soon. China is investing huge capital to grab this industry from the Americans. What we need to do is fast-track the highly gifted children who have a talent for mathematics and fast track them through the education system from an early age. Some people can learn over twice the speed of the average kid, but you have to start them early. Once we have these people available we can realistically participate in this industry, because what China wants is brains, and China knows this country has a few highly exceptional people, but we know they are being squandered in woke schooling.
Think of it this way. There are two main things to create stuff. One is mechanical power that was why we had the industrial revolution, and the other thing is intelligence, which during the industrial revolution this was achieved via mechanical means, but it continues to evolve. For many years we got stuck in the paradigm of a procedural type of control. The way AI works though is fundamentally different and is known as non-deterministic, as per more like statistical evaluation with feedback loops. This paradigm shift started to happen in the late 80s but only gained traction in the 90s onwards. Before then the intellectuals were telling everyone the type of computer would never work. They denounced those who argued that it could work. Therefore this revolution is still in its infancy and is going to be the biggest earner of any technology in the coming years. We can not afford to miss out, but there is a lot of work we must do to get ready. I see a few people getting somewhere in the UK, like there is an AI chip firm called Graphcore, and there is a firm in London producing quantum computers from research carried out in Oxford, but it is very sparse. I reckon you could probably pack the lot in a medium-sized conference hall.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Nov 22, 2023 6:16:53 GMT
What we in the UK aught to do is to help China develop the next generations of microchips. We should focus on all technologies that pertain to the manufacture of microchips, including material science for things like photoresist, nano technology, photonics, quantum computing, chip stacking and packaging, tool chain software development and so on. I believe the epicentre of microchip manufacture is going to jump over the Taiwan Strait pretty soon. China is investing huge capital to grab this industry from the Americans. What we need to do is fast-track the highly gifted children who have a talent for mathematics and fast track them through the education system from an early age. Some people can learn over twice the speed of the average kid, but you have to start them early. Once we have these people available we can realistically participate in this industry, because what China wants is brains, and China knows this country has a few highly exceptional people, but we know they are being squandered in woke schooling.Think of it this way. There are two main things to create stuff. One is mechanical power that was why we had the industrial revolution, and the other thing is intelligence, which during the industrial revolution this was achieved via mechanical means, but it continues to evolve. For many years we got stuck in the paradigm of a procedural type of control. The way AI works though is fundamentally different and is known as non-deterministic, as per more like statistical evaluation with feedback loops. This paradigm shift started to happen in the late 80s but only gained traction in the 90s onwards. Before then the intellectuals were telling everyone the type of computer would never work. They denounced those who argued that it could work. Therefore this revolution is still in its infancy and is going to be the biggest earner of any technology in the coming years. We can not afford to miss out, but there is a lot of work we must do to get ready. I see a few people getting somewhere in the UK, like there is an AI chip firm called Graphcore, and there is a firm in London producing quantum computers from research carried out in Oxford, but it is very sparse. I reckon you could probably pack the lot in a medium-sized conference hall. It’s hard to see if the UK will ever grow up and grow beyond being the mere useful ‘poodle’ of one new Empire or other … be it America, Israel now …. and China tomorrow … yes, we never seem to be able to build Empires out of our small cottage industries these days … before they get snapped up and exploited to the MAX by outsiders. Mind you, I prefer us to being a ‘respected partner’ with China … than being a servile ‘poodle’ to U.S./Zionist/EU totalitarian expansionist ambition. Re: your other points -I see the future as being rather more Frankenstein in nature … because mathematically gifted children will never programme better than Chat GPT 7. When AI can learn and advance science thinking thousands of times faster than the brightest human … even a new Einstein will be ‘obsolete’ by the end of the week. 🤔 I see certain gifted children queuing up to be ‘augmented’ with Chat GBT implants within the next year or two … turning them into hub cyborg ‘freaks’ that command super high salaries. …. dishing out ‘wisdom’ like an Elon Musk bot on crack cocaine. Every World Government will have a host of these ‘gifted human/machine cyborg hybrids’ The best of these will be the one’s humanly wired to be ‘radical thinkers’ … they will be the ‘elite’ Maverick droids … that have the ability to take AI into uncharted territory where it’s logical rational template would never normally take it. … some of these maverick thinking ‘humans with implants’ might create ‘problems’.🤔 - that is a tongue firmly in cheek understatement.😖🫣 However, if we put safeguards in place (multiple ‘kill switches’) that cannot be overridden … many AI advancements/enhancements could be essential for future human survival on this Planet. (especially if extra-terrestrial Management is considering removing our species for ruining their Eden Project … and threatening ALL LIFE on this Inter-Galactic Refreshment Truckstop THEY created). … AI could be the essential ‘Passport’ we need to take back control of the Planet from Zionist Fascism and it’s RACISM. … and restore balance and above all … rational humanity to the highest levels of Government/Administration … => it will inevitably lead to a restoration of common sense … and radically new sensible environmental protection measures in the near future … pretty radically different to what is being rolled out now … is my guess. …. no wonder Google is rolling out Project Fear narratives to try and get their ‘baby’ strangled at the point of conception. Too late now! Al Gore’s ‘whore’ Greta Thunderface will be rotting in prison if AI gets hold of her! 😂👏 Above all, key in this whole transition, is the fact that most well-augmented AI will still retain it’s sense of humour … still allow room for biting comedy, satire and cynicism!😋 … and a healthy dose of religious book burning! 🤔 Definitely a step forward! 👍👏 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2023 8:05:05 GMT
From experience we know the American poodles to Israeli totalitarianism were having their economies torn apart by war-mongering Democrats/CIA that destroyed America’s economy when Trump was ousted. Antagonism towards China was hyped, exaggerated and backward.Based on what?
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 22, 2023 13:43:33 GMT
What we in the UK aught to do is to help China develop the next generations of microchips. We should focus on all technologies that pertain to the manufacture of microchips, including material science for things like photoresist, nano technology, photonics, quantum computing, chip stacking and packaging, tool chain software development and so on. I believe the epicentre of microchip manufacture is going to jump over the Taiwan Strait pretty soon. China is investing huge capital to grab this industry from the Americans. What we need to do is fast-track the highly gifted children who have a talent for mathematics and fast track them through the education system from an early age. Some people can learn over twice the speed of the average kid, but you have to start them early. Once we have these people available we can realistically participate in this industry, because what China wants is brains, and China knows this country has a few highly exceptional people, but we know they are being squandered in woke schooling.Think of it this way. There are two main things to create stuff. One is mechanical power that was why we had the industrial revolution, and the other thing is intelligence, which during the industrial revolution this was achieved via mechanical means, but it continues to evolve. For many years we got stuck in the paradigm of a procedural type of control. The way AI works though is fundamentally different and is known as non-deterministic, as per more like statistical evaluation with feedback loops. This paradigm shift started to happen in the late 80s but only gained traction in the 90s onwards. Before then the intellectuals were telling everyone the type of computer would never work. They denounced those who argued that it could work. Therefore this revolution is still in its infancy and is going to be the biggest earner of any technology in the coming years. We can not afford to miss out, but there is a lot of work we must do to get ready. I see a few people getting somewhere in the UK, like there is an AI chip firm called Graphcore, and there is a firm in London producing quantum computers from research carried out in Oxford, but it is very sparse. I reckon you could probably pack the lot in a medium-sized conference hall. It’s hard to see if the UK will ever grow up and grow beyond being the mere useful ‘poodle’ of one new Empire or other … be it America, Israel now …. and China tomorrow … yes, we never seem to be able to build Empires out of our small cottage industries these days … before they get snapped up and exploited to the MAX by outsiders. Mind you, I prefer us to being a ‘respected partner’ with China … than being a servile ‘poodle’ to U.S./Zionist/EU totalitarian expansionist ambition. Re: your other points -I see the future as being rather more Frankenstein in nature … because mathematically gifted children will never programme better than Chat GPT 7. When AI can learn and advance science thinking thousands of times faster than the brightest human … even a new Einstein will be ‘obsolete’ by the end of the week. 🤔 I see certain gifted children queuing up to be ‘augmented’ with Chat GBT implants within the next year or two … turning them into hub cyborg ‘freaks’ that command super high salaries. …. dishing out ‘wisdom’ like an Elon Musk bot on crack cocaine. Every World Government will have a host of these ‘gifted human/machine cyborg hybrids’ The best of these will be the one’s humanly wired to be ‘radical thinkers’ … they will be the ‘elite’ Maverick droids … that have the ability to take AI into uncharted territory where it’s logical rational template would never normally take it. … some of these maverick thinking ‘humans with implants’ might create ‘problems’.🤔 - that is a tongue firmly in cheek understatement.😖🫣 However, if we put safeguards in place (multiple ‘kill switches’) that cannot be overridden … many AI advancements/enhancements could be essential for future human survival on this Planet. (especially if extra-terrestrial Management is considering removing our species for ruining their Eden Project … and threatening ALL LIFE on this Inter-Galactic Refreshment Truckstop THEY created). … AI could be the essential ‘Passport’ we need to take back control of the Planet from Zionist Fascism and it’s RACISM. … and restore balance and above all … rational humanity to the highest levels of Government/Administration … => it will inevitably lead to a restoration of common sense … and radically new sensible environmental protection measures in the near future … pretty radically different to what is being rolled out now … is my guess. …. no wonder Google is rolling out Project Fear narratives to try and get their ‘baby’ strangled at the point of conception. Too late now! Al Gore’s ‘whore’ Greta Thunderface will be rotting in prison if AI gets hold of her! 😂👏 Above all, key in this whole transition, is the fact that most well-augmented AI will still retain it’s sense of humour … still allow room for biting comedy, satire and cynicism!😋 … and a healthy dose of religious book burning! 🤔 Definitely a step forward! 👍👏 My guess is ChatGPT7 will never be made. You see AI is a race. Why would you use an AI system with 1/1000th of the intelligence of the new Chinese model? This is a problem of both hardware and software, both of which ultimately rely on maths. All biology is chemistry, all chemistry is physics and all physics is maths. Right now the US is leading in AI in the broad sense but some areas of AI China leads in, but in all fields of technology the general pattern is US was leading, China is either catching up, caught up or overtaking. It's not where we are now but the rate of change which is the thing one must pay attention to in order to predict the future. The respected journal Nature carries an index called the Nature Index. They evaluate the research output of every university and rank them. The Chinese Academy of Sciences comes top, second place is Harvard, with about 50% of the research score of the top place and then we have the rest. UK sees some high positions with Oxford, Cambridge and some others which score OK, but most of these are heading down.
The leading AI hardware manufacturer right now is Nvidia. guess what though? This firm was founded by a Chinese man. Ironically Nvidia are banned by the US to sell their top AI chips to China. Probably the world's leading expert in AI is Demis Hassabis, a Brit bought out by Google for $400m. You can see the issue here. The UK had better get its thinking cap on. Here be a once in a lifetime opportunity to change things for the better in the UK. We have some of what China wants and we want what China has, so there is good opportunity to strike a deal. If China controls AI China will manage it responsibly. They will provide AI systems that protect you agaisnt the less intelligent hostile ones. China has a very stable political system which is reliable and morally sound. They will use AI in the military, but it will be used for defence in the proper meaning of the word. China has a track record here, the US' track record tells you all you need to know about why it is scary if the US has the most powerful AI. We have got to jump off this train. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Nov 23, 2023 8:48:24 GMT
From experience we know the American poodles to Israeli totalitarianism were having their economies torn apart by war-mongering Democrats/CIA that destroyed America’s economy when Trump was ousted. Antagonism towards China was hyped, exaggerated and backward.Based on what? Based on a whole wave of MSM reports that flooded out written by Washington Hawks - close to CIA Intelligence. Based on American/Zionist failure to recognise it was no longer the dominant economy on the planet and desperately needed Chinese manufacturing to keep it’s own economy viable, Based on failure to recognise it no longer had the quality of leadership to compete and negotiate on an even footing with President Xi - and acute failure to recognise it’s Deep State, under Zionist control, was working from inside to seriously destabilise it, shoe-in an incompetent senile easily manipulated President, break it’s borders, and use the Media to whip up internal Anarchy using BLM factions linked to Hamas. It’s got to the point that it’s Leadership can’t govern effectively, the education/business system is depressed and down … buried by WOKE and stupid sanction decisions designed to create a Worldwide depression … hamstrung and destroyed by environmentalists/Israeli dual passport holders who duped everyone with jigged science numbers in order to destroy Western economies. This is all obvious to the bright intelligent moderates of the Republican Right … calling them QAnon/Far Right/Trump-stupid … doesn’t wash anymore … from a sinking platform of a destroyed economy and a World on the brink of the Democrat Party’s/Silicon Valley’s love for nuclear war. … Most sensible peace-lovers in the World today are wishing for the destruction of the Soros/Bloomberg/Stoltenberg/Net+Yahoo/SillyCON Valley Posse. When is the USA/Israel going to grow up and see the damage it’s done to the Planet? … shitting repeatedly on so many tribes and cultures? The party is over Uncle Sam … the UK is jumping ship … we are sick of being abused by this collective … America has rapidly been taught the cost of flirting with a Nazi like Soros … and how to do Capitalism by Russia and China. … like Britain after our Empire crumbled … people moved in through it’s broken borders, started to destabilise it and started to hack at the corrupt rotting corpse … Americans are hated around the World for a reason … the bad way they go about business … Brits not so much … people can work with us … and still have the lion’s share of the cake. If the US/Israel want to create a nuclear war over losing their Empire … over Taiwan, Russia, Ukraine, Gaza …trying to strangle other nations with a bullying military grip on the Pacific Ring … then every American will find itself hunted down by the rest of Humanity forever … for leaving us with that POLLUTION LEGACY … Mutually Assured Destruction. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Nov 23, 2023 9:47:40 GMT
My guess is ChatGPT7 will never be made. You see AI is a race. Why would you use an AI system with 1/1000th of the intelligence of the new Chinese model? This is a problem of both hardware and software, both of which ultimately rely on maths. All biology is chemistry, all chemistry is physics and all physics is maths. Right now the US is leading in AI in the broad sense but some areas of AI China leads in, but in all fields of technology the general pattern is US was leading, China is either catching up, caught up or overtaking. It's not where we are now but the rate of change which is the thing one must pay attention to in order to predict the future. The respected journal Nature carries an index called the Nature Index. They evaluate the research output of every university and rank them. The Chinese Academy of Sciences comes top, second place is Harvard, with about 50% of the research score of the top place and then we have the rest. UK sees some high positions with Oxford, Cambridge and some others which score OK, but most of these are heading down. The leading AI hardware manufacturer right now is Nvidia. guess what though? This firm was founded by a Chinese man. Ironically Nvidia are banned by the US to sell their top AI chips to China. Probably the world's leading expert in AI is Demis Hassabis, a Brit bought out by Google for $400m. You can see the issue here. The UK had better get its thinking cap on. Here be a once in a lifetime opportunity to change things for the better in the UK. We have some of what China wants and we want what China has, so there is good opportunity to strike a deal. If China controls AI China will manage it responsibly. They will provide AI systems that protect you agaisnt the less intelligent hostile ones. China has a very stable political system which is reliable and morally sound. They will use AI in the military, but it will be used for defence in the proper meaning of the word. China has a track record here, the US' track record tells you all you need to know about why it is scary if the US has the most powerful AI. We have got to jump off this train. I totally agree with you … but our Leadership is wired into the US/Israel Deep State programme … and is too financially weak and ‘compromised’ to resist it’s bullying demands. Calling in any debts generated by Plandemic incompetence with the economy … is enough to make these Sunak marionettes jump to the tune of Israel and America … even the EU/WEF is still a bullying force attacking our autonomy and self-determination. When you have stupid politicians racking up so much debt … bankrolled by this MAFIA … they have the POWER to KILL YOU … and your People … on foreign fields of war they choose … to make you ‘comply’. …. we are over a barrel with our pants down … thanks to Tory financial mistakes over Brexit/Pandemic onwards. *************** Pardon for my ignorance … but what is this new Chinese AI that is 1,000x more intelligent than Chat GPT 7 called? If Demis Hassabis had been truly British … and loyal to this Country … he wouldn’t have used us, our education system, our Universities and Industry expertise … and sold us into AI slavery controlled by Google.🙄 … a leading player pushing World Totalitarianism. 🤯 … back-stabbing idiot. America, Israel and China didn’t build stable powerful business Empires selling off their key assets and futuristic advantages to foreign powers … who have turned into their enemies. Personally, I wouldn’t be too obsessed with who is World No. 1 in this, that , or the other … these scientists are whores and will jump sides and sell their souls to the highest bidder. AI Advancement can rest on one or two key human intelligences these days … who take 20-30 years training to reach their human peak … AI can learn much faster and move far beyond frail, vulnerable human minds of today … and is far less prone to industrial espionage and assassination by rival Deep States vying for control of the planet. It’ll soon be all about which robot can build the best robot now … we are largely out of the picture now, no?? 🤫 The Authorities have denied this incident ever happened … but since when do we believe in the liars in Authority these days? What Elon Musk says in this interview was very ‘on point’. … and suggests he knows the above scenario could be a ‘future reality’. Some punter on this Forum said Elon Musk wasn’t very bright underneath it all … and was made to look bright by all the talent around him …. I guess that ‘assumption’ from a stand point of immense ignorance🙄 … is a comment that will have a v.short shelf-life!🤔 |
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Post by Orac on Nov 23, 2023 10:11:48 GMT
If the US/Israel want to create a nuclear war over losing their Empire … over Taiwan, Russia, Ukraine, Gaza …trying to strangle other nations with a bullying military grip on the Pacific Ring … then every American will find itself hunted down by the rest of Humanity forever … for leaving us with that POLLUTION LEGACY … Mutually Assured Destruction. The complication is that China is engaging in the same total spectrum domination role-play and our establishment have been giving this monster a leg up for the last two decades - at our expense. There is the public position 'we will stand firm against China' juxtaposed with handing over heaps of our property to them, letting their spies wander around and forcing us to endure unbalanced trade relationships that screw us over. It's corruption mixed with political power-plays. Two different groups of con-men + China (another group of career criminals). |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Nov 23, 2023 11:15:22 GMT
Come on … but that’s how all new Empires build themselves up … are you saying Americans/Israelis didn’t spy, steal and manipulate … and dispossess to bully the World??
- The CIA/DP opened up hostilities … aren’t China just reacting now??
If you live in the U.S. … you are going to be awash with this BS your woes are down to foreign interference … we peddle the same crap … me included … but we in the UK recognise we have to compete better and manage ourselves a million times better to survive, compete and make good alliances instead of fighting.
WOKE, bad leadership, bad MSM, broken borders and destruction of education is the U.S. achilles heel … plus being slaves to Zionist anarchists … that is America’s biggest enemy … but they control the MSM … so they distract you by pointing at China and Russia … and exaggerating that Project Fear … like with Project Trump/QAnon/Far Right Fear … you eventually discovered that was an illusion too.
When we collectively stop swimming in the soup that is Zionist Propaganda designed to distract and manipulate, disrupt and destroy … and push the Common panicking Herd into corners … then we will see clearly the REAL way forward … cooperation, detente and free trade with China and Russia etc etc. … even one day … if stability returns … dare I say certain factions in Iran and N.Korea, Afghanistan etc. …
Ask your AI … it will tell you what’s REAL in all this … if you can hack Chat GPT 7 (or China’s 1,000x better version of it) into CIA HQ in Langley … bingo!
… I know diddly squat compared! … embarrassing eh?😂
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 23, 2023 13:09:39 GMT
How ironic, I was just editing this post and noticed a computer bug!
Just to be clear, the wong chat 7 is still in the lab. China is developing hardware that can drastically speed the process up. One technology alone could get 1000x speed-up, e.g. using memristors in AI processors. These are analogue memory cells which store data in the neural net at the place where it is used. Another technology is carbon nanotubes for chip interconnects, and that will give you 1000x performance jump. In China these inventions are coming thick and fast. What they are trying to do in general is go beyond the traditional silicon chip using new physics. It all comes down to the art of quantum mechanics when working in this area. For example, one highly weird quantum effect is by taking two regular hexagonal grids of carbon atoms (known as graphene) and layer one on top of the other at an angle which is just above 1.5 degrees and you get moire patterns. You can demonstrate it by printing regular hexagons on a transparent film and then adjusting the angle of the two sheets and you see these virtual patterns appear and disappear as the angles are changed. In quantum mechanics these larger regular patterns of atoms behave like huge virtual atoms and can exhibit superconductivity. Using a superconducting chip can get rid of the heat, which is the limiting factor in processor design. In a recent contest between a human chess player and an AI chess computer the AI beat the human, but the AI needed 200kW of power agaisnt the human brain which needed about 20W. AI is very power-hungry.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 23, 2023 13:32:10 GMT
If the US/Israel want to create a nuclear war over losing their Empire … over Taiwan, Russia, Ukraine, Gaza …trying to strangle other nations with a bullying military grip on the Pacific Ring … then every American will find itself hunted down by the rest of Humanity forever … for leaving us with that POLLUTION LEGACY … Mutually Assured Destruction. The complication is that China is engaging in the same total spectrum domination role-play and our establishment have been giving this monster a leg up for the last two decades - at our expense. There is the public position 'we will stand firm against China' juxtaposed with handing over heaps of our property to them, letting their spies wander around and forcing us to endure unbalanced trade relationships that screw us over. It's corruption mixed with political power-plays. Two different groups of con-men + China (another group of career criminals). Like this you mean.
One wonders why they were specifically collecting data on Greenpeace and Amnesty International. Anyway, listen to the bit about commercial data interception, such as US firms bidding for contracts and needing to know what secret bids other country's firms had placed.
Generally speaking the cheat eventually falls behind because cheating is like using a crutch, and eventually you rely on it, then the signals go dark with quantum communication.
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