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Post by Dubdrifter on Dec 7, 2023 1:55:20 GMT
We can all see “the Chinese right path” has already worked in so many other Countries abandoned and broken by joint U.S./Zionist actions.
… but how can this “right path” navigate the damaged British political situation where the electorate has been betrayed by both main parties?
Politically we desperately need a third alternative … the Reform Party/Bruges Group Alliance needs time to gain traction and create a new “third way” … that tells the EU/US/Israel to ‘take a hike’ … and creates a stepping stone for the CBI to cement further relations with BRICS.
Meanwhile characters like Farage are economically forced to make fools of themselves in Celebrity TV shows that undermine their reputations because Western Banks won’t support them anymore.
I guess China needs to be the covert finance powerhouse to fill the void left by Western rug-pullers … step in and prop up Russia … but also bankroll newly emerging political Parties in the West able to display intelligence … and engineer co-operation.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 7, 2023 3:48:24 GMT
We can all see “the Chinese right path” has already worked in so many other Countries abandoned and broken by joint U.S./Zionist actions. … but how can this “right path” navigate the damaged British political situation where the electorate has been betrayed by both main parties? Politically we desperately need a third alternative … the Reform Party/Bruges Group Alliance needs time to gain traction and create a new “third way” … that tells the EU/US/Israel to ‘take a hike’ … and creates a stepping stone for the CBI to cement further relations with BRICS. Meanwhile characters like Farage are economically forced to make fools of themselves in Celebrity TV shows that undermine their reputations because Western Banks won’t support them anymore. I guess China needs to be the covert finance powerhouse to fill the void left by Western rug-pullers … step in and prop up Russia … but also bankroll newly emerging political Parties in the West able to display intelligence … and engineer co-operation. The trouble is that parties like Reform & whatever party Farage is in, they are the most anti-China out of all the parties. They are more up the arses of the US military than even the typical American citizen. I despair at the lies they believe. The followers are some of the least intelligent and least able to discuss real issues and just issue slogans.
In fact one of the most popular politicians we have which is really liked by the Chinese state is George Galloway. They are unsurprisingly very supportive of Assange. I've seen top officials in the party bring his case up, and then they also support people like John Pilger. I also see some collaboration with Oxford and Cambridge too. They like intelligent free-thinking Brits. The so-called right are warmongers and really part of the problem. Another area where there is a good relationship is in private business, especially small business into technology. You get quite a lot of British technology firms which get their stuff manufactured in China where there is a really good understanding business relationship. They basically get what China is really like and can't be bullshitted.
The biggest problem we have is ignorance, and the mass media journalists are some of the worst. They rarely talk to the Chinese and always get their opinions from American China experts. How dumb can you get! Well we get the odd exception every now and again. I've noticed the BBC have on one or two occasions had Victor Gao on, which makes for interesting viewing. He is very closely connected to what is going on in the party, and is also very smart as a professor of international relations. He's like their version of Lavrov, which tends to put the British media/politician's education to shame. One other time I saw the media give a balanced and correct view on China was in fact a scholar from Oxford the Times has had on a couple of times, so this is how it is right now - the odd flicker of like light in a a sea of ignorance, which is the British public. I do think their anti-China crusade is losing momentum rather than gaining it, so there is hope. I do not know what Labour will do though. I think Starmer is CIA-affiliated, so another puppet in other words.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Dec 7, 2023 20:55:20 GMT
Guess I need to do some serious research on the Reform Party and their policies b4 seeing them as contenders.
British voters who were astute enough to see it was time to move out of the corrupt totalitarian sphere of the EU Commission ... certainly deserve a new Party that is loyal to British interests.
..The UK Chat GTP Party?? ...
Politically and Administratively the UK seems ill-served by poorly trained politicians juggled from one Dept.to another with little expert experience/University degrees to run the highly complex Departments under their control.
Maybe we need to have on the next GE ballot paper ...
Tory
Labour
Green
Lib Dems
Reform
AI Administration?
... If any job can be easily replaced with a more competent AI - it's the British Political Administration ... and you wouldn't even need the latest version of the software to do a much better job!🤔
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Post by BVL on Dec 10, 2023 1:06:41 GMT
Guess I need to do some serious research on the Reform Party and their policies b4 seeing them as contenders. British voters who were astute enough to see it was time to move out of the corrupt totalitarian sphere of the EU Commission ... certainly deserve a new Party that is loyal to British interests. ..The UK Chat GTP Party?? ... Politically and Administratively the UK seems ill-served by poorly trained politicians juggled from one Dept.to another with little expert experience/University degrees to run the highly complex Departments under their control. Maybe we need to have on the next GE ballot paper ... Tory Labour Green Lib Dems Reform AI Administration?ich ... If any job can be easily replaced with a more competent AI - it's the British Political Administration ... and you wouldn't even need the latest version of the software to do a much better job!🤔 I can't think of anyone of a high intellectual calibre who is involved in British politics now. I suppose the closest we came was Professor Tim Congdon of the UKIP. I thought Stewart Wheeler was smart too, but he was just too old to enter the mainstream. The UKIP had one or two other bright ones like a guy from Oxford who was a Theologian, but he hardly got any votes despite putting across some on the most intelligent arguments. It did not take too long to see the UKIP degenerate into a popularist party and then into clown territory. It's an odd one. These days I keep seeing what seem like trolls and useful idiots think the whole deal is a creation of the WEF. The WEF is an elite organisation without a doubt, but that is the "proof" we are given that is it the deep state. Indeed if we simply look at who made what speech and where, it turns out it was President Xi who spoke at the 2017 event which was the most comprehensive and intelligent plan on how the world should operate, and in particular that protectionism will not work and anyone who thinks it does will go under. Protectionism is stuff like trade wars, which can often lead to real wars and all that is economic warfare regarding manipulation of markets. This is interesting because not only has the test of time proved President Xi correct, but we see the UK gradually move in the direction of free trade, whilst the US is abruptly moving in the opposite direction. I was just watching the FT's documentary on the Inflation Reduction Act. This is the protectionism President xi spoke of as something that would be futile in the global market and he gave his reasons. The FT seems to be saying this too and it is pissing off the EU which have finally figured the game they are playing means the EU is a target. So at the WEF you have American billionaires benefitting from US trade and you have the other side as well, plus many other sides from other countries, which really can't be such a bad thing. They do not agree, but they are free to express their opinions in an open-minded and adult way. The alternative type of discussion is what we get on a typical broadcast TV debate. Take the BBC as an example. They often have popular authors of fiction to add to the debate, and many times MSM journalists mixed in with elected representatives. None of these seem to have a clue about how global markets operate. Taking these people's advice to guide the masses, you might as well have Mystic Meg and her crystal ball. Of course if you don't get the fundamentals of this trade right the country will get forever poorer and descend into poverty. We have a long way to fall. I'm kind of drawing the conclusion s our biggest problem is we have kind of system-wide chaos which no one is controlling. It took us many centuries to refine our systems to the point we had the industrial revolution. When they talk on the BBC though nearly every discussion is steered in the direction of emotion and how various individuals feel. Feelings though did not take centuries of academic advancement, rather they were there back in the days of the jungle. |
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Post by BVL on Dec 10, 2023 1:09:21 GMT
NB apologies for typos. This is the shittiest keyboard I have ever used!
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Post by Dubdrifter on Dec 13, 2023 2:37:30 GMT
I can't think of anyone of a high intellectual calibre who is involved in British politics now. I suppose the closest we came was Professor Tim Congdon of the UKIP. I thought Stewart Wheeler was smart too, but he was just too old to enter the mainstream. The UKIP had one or two other bright ones like a guy from Oxford who was a Theologian, but he hardly got any votes despite putting across some on the most intelligent arguments. It did not take too long to see the UKIP degenerate into a popularist party and then into clown territory. It's an odd one. These days I keep seeing what seem like trolls and useful idiots think the whole deal is a creation of the WEF. The WEF is an elite organisation without a doubt, but that is the "proof" we are given that is it the deep state. Indeed if we simply look at who made what speech and where, it turns out it was President Xi who spoke at the 2017 event which was the most comprehensive and intelligent plan on how the world should operate, and in particular that protectionism will not work and anyone who thinks it does will go under. Protectionism is stuff like trade wars, which can often lead to real wars and all that is economic warfare regarding manipulation of markets. This is interesting because not only has the test of time proved President Xi correct, but we see the UK gradually move in the direction of free trade, whilst the US is abruptly moving in the opposite direction. I was just watching the FT's documentary on the Inflation Reduction Act. This is the protectionism President xi spoke of as something that would be futile in the global market and he gave his reasons. The FT seems to be saying this too and it is pissing off the EU which have finally figured the game they are playing means the EU is a target. So at the WEF you have American billionaires benefitting from US trade and you have the other side as well, plus many other sides from other countries, which really can't be such a bad thing. They do not agree, but they are free to express their opinions in an open-minded and adult way. The alternative type of discussion is what we get on a typical broadcast TV debate. Take the BBC as an example. They often have popular authors of fiction to add to the debate, and many times MSM journalists mixed in with elected representatives. None of these seem to have a clue about how global markets operate. Taking these people's advice to guide the masses, you might as well have Mystic Meg and her crystal ball. Of course if you don't get the fundamentals of this trade right the country will get forever poorer and descend into poverty. We have a long way to fall. I'm kind of drawing the conclusion s our biggest problem is we have kind of system-wide chaos which no one is controlling. It took us many centuries to refine our systems to the point we had the industrial revolution. When they talk on the BBC though nearly every discussion is steered in the direction of emotion and how various individuals feel. Feelings though did not take centuries of academic advancement, rather they were there back in the days of the jungle. We became a rudderless country deliberately when Cameron left the wheelhouse after the vote … and now WEF shoe-in Sunak has put him in a key position to steer us back into the EU … salvage his reputation … but shaft the rest of us who saw promise in independence and control. If I was in a locked room alone with Cameron, I’d kick his gutless innards thru the keyhole. The reality of the situation is the WEF are run by the same Zionist ‘mafia’ that has run the EU since it’s inception … it has the financial clout to cripple countries and manipulate who gets into power … and when Cameron ‘slipped’ up and gave us half a chance to ‘opt out’ … and Trump across the Pond grabbed a surprise taste of rebellion to further upset their Kalergi Plan … they turned the screws thru a series of defunding exercises, and BLM anarchy and lockdown bullying to cripple the UK and US … that were making a success out of ‘independence’. If Trump had ‘won’ … and it’s pretty obvious chicanery was afoot … and the rest of Europe had followed Britain’s lead … these corrupt crooks that the BBC and Guardian suddenly started to whitewash after we sensibly voted Brexit - they would have been kicked out the West and left to rot in Israel … and the whole of Europe would have resecured it’s borders and it’s economies and stability would have increased a thousand fold. Brexit wasn’t protectionism at work … secure borders and freer trade was our hope - deregulation/autonomy for our country… it was the anarchist Leftists who were the war-mongers and ‘protectionistas’ … in the EU, thru Biden, economic lockdown, sanctions etc … trying to break up the UK … start nuclear war. They are certified “nutters”. No ‘intelligent independent socially concerned person’ who represents The People’s interests will ever get elected in Britain or America or the West today … until the Press and MSM is FREED FROM THE SHACKLES OF THIS ‘mafia’ and group of nutters that now strangles the Free World … and censors Free Speech everywhere. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 13, 2023 14:44:25 GMT
I can't think of anyone of a high intellectual calibre who is involved in British politics now. I suppose the closest we came was Professor Tim Congdon of the UKIP. I thought Stewart Wheeler was smart too, but he was just too old to enter the mainstream. The UKIP had one or two other bright ones like a guy from Oxford who was a Theologian, but he hardly got any votes despite putting across some on the most intelligent arguments. It did not take too long to see the UKIP degenerate into a popularist party and then into clown territory. It's an odd one. These days I keep seeing what seem like trolls and useful idiots think the whole deal is a creation of the WEF. The WEF is an elite organisation without a doubt, but that is the "proof" we are given that is it the deep state. Indeed if we simply look at who made what speech and where, it turns out it was President Xi who spoke at the 2017 event which was the most comprehensive and intelligent plan on how the world should operate, and in particular that protectionism will not work and anyone who thinks it does will go under. Protectionism is stuff like trade wars, which can often lead to real wars and all that is economic warfare regarding manipulation of markets. This is interesting because not only has the test of time proved President Xi correct, but we see the UK gradually move in the direction of free trade, whilst the US is abruptly moving in the opposite direction. I was just watching the FT's documentary on the Inflation Reduction Act. This is the protectionism President xi spoke of as something that would be futile in the global market and he gave his reasons. The FT seems to be saying this too and it is pissing off the EU which have finally figured the game they are playing means the EU is a target. So at the WEF you have American billionaires benefitting from US trade and you have the other side as well, plus many other sides from other countries, which really can't be such a bad thing. They do not agree, but they are free to express their opinions in an open-minded and adult way. The alternative type of discussion is what we get on a typical broadcast TV debate. Take the BBC as an example. They often have popular authors of fiction to add to the debate, and many times MSM journalists mixed in with elected representatives. None of these seem to have a clue about how global markets operate. Taking these people's advice to guide the masses, you might as well have Mystic Meg and her crystal ball. Of course if you don't get the fundamentals of this trade right the country will get forever poorer and descend into poverty. We have a long way to fall. I'm kind of drawing the conclusion s our biggest problem is we have kind of system-wide chaos which no one is controlling. It took us many centuries to refine our systems to the point we had the industrial revolution. When they talk on the BBC though nearly every discussion is steered in the direction of emotion and how various individuals feel. Feelings though did not take centuries of academic advancement, rather they were there back in the days of the jungle. We became a rudderless country deliberately when Cameron left the wheelhouse after the vote … and now WEF shoe-in Sunak has put him in a key position to steer us back into the EU … salvage his reputation … but shaft the rest of us who saw promise in independence and control. If I was in a locked room alone with Cameron, I’d kick his gutless innards thru the keyhole. The reality of the situation is the WEF are run by the same Zionist ‘mafia’ that has run the EU since it’s inception … it has the financial clout to cripple countries and manipulate who gets into power … and when Cameron ‘slipped’ up and gave us half a chance to ‘opt out’ … and Trump across the Pond grabbed a surprise taste of rebellion to further upset their Kalergi Plan … they turned the screws thru a series of defunding exercises, and BLM anarchy and lockdown bullying to cripple the UK and US … that were making a success out of ‘independence’. If Trump had ‘won’ … and it’s pretty obvious chicanery was afoot … and the rest of Europe had followed Britain’s lead … these corrupt crooks that the BBC and Guardian suddenly started to whitewash after we sensibly voted Brexit - they would have been kicked out the West and left to rot in Israel … and the whole of Europe would have resecured it’s borders and it’s economies and stability would have increased a thousand fold. Brexit wasn’t protectionism at work … secure borders and freer trade was our hope - deregulation/autonomy for our country… it was the anarchist Leftists who were the war-mongers and ‘protectionistas’ … in the EU, thru Biden, economic lockdown, sanctions etc … trying to break up the UK … start nuclear war. They are certified “nutters”. No ‘intelligent independent socially concerned person’ who represents The People’s interests will ever get elected in Britain or America or the West today … until the Press and MSM is FREED FROM THE SHACKLES OF THIS ‘mafia’ and group of nutters that now strangles the Free World … and censors Free Speech everywhere. If you look at history you see there was a huge change in the system post WW2. America had industrialised in the preceding years playing our old game of industrialisation but doing it on an even bigger scale than what we were at during this time. America overtook the UK in part because WW1 knocked us back and there was also the rise of the soviet union. The time straight after WW2 saw the creation of a world order with the UN, World Bank, BIS, IMF, ICC, Council of Europe and so on. This was the US plus the UK as a minor shareholder. The UK was one of the first to set up the EU as well and other colonial powers like France were also in on it. Now what we see is this order is going to be revised in a major way. It will be what they call now a multipolar world, and this BRICS organisation is earmarked in setting it up.
This time the dominant power is China rather than the US and the secondary power is Russia instead of the UK. India is a bit like mainland Europe was to the post WW2 set-up. It's got a bit of clout, it has its say but it is not top dog. Where the Russia-China bond is absolute the India bond is a kind of a haggling bond. They like to see themselves as independent like the EU sees itself, except it is not, and that is because China is a far more advanced technological power than India and no one right now thinks India has a hope in hell's chance of overtaking China. Like with the old system the Saudis and the Africans play their part, and they are keen to sign up because Brics is trying to bring it back to the more balanced state of affairs that initially existed in the post WW2 system, which has now degenerated.
Anyway, given all of this is happening right now, we Brits must position ourselves intelligently. We have to tell our Far right to shut up because their ignorant mouths could land all of us in a dire state of poverty by telling all those who could help us to get lost. We should never have fallen out with Russia. It is true we have never had very good relations with Russia, but during the Cameron years things were starting to improve since President Putin is a moderate and with a little more work that would have worked out. We should have called a truce on military/spying activities. It was 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. We have arseholes in MI6 and the CIA who run amok so they need to be brought to account in order to improve relations. We could have strengthened trading relations and worked jointly to eliminate corruption, which Russia did have and still does but is trying to bring under control, as with China too. You see when you work with other powers to solve common problems you can increase the trust. Now though we have completely blown it with Russia but of late we have improved UK-China relations, which I'm really glad about. If we form a good relationship with China then China can explain to us more clearly how the new system will work and we can find our place. We won't be top dog, but we will be respected and we will see good economic growth. As it is now things hang in the balance somewhat, but if we quit Ukraine then that would be another step in the right direction. In reality I think it would be more a gradual sneaking out of our previous hardline Johnson position. Actually Russia says it would far prefer peace with the UK. President Putin does not hate the British. He seems to think more along the lines that our politicians are totally bloody mad.
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