Were these lies and not the truth?

Which he didn't, we are still following EU rules.

The police investigated the No 10 parties for 6 months and issued fixed penalty notices to quite a lot of people, but most of those people were civil servants or advisers. Boris (and Sunak) were fined £50 for one "party" which was actually a meeting arranged in No 10 for a few people (who all worked together anyway). That breaks no rules. The problem was that Carrie gatecrashed the meeting with a cake (for Boris's birthday) and with her interior designer (Lulu Lyttle IIRC). The presence of Ms Lyttle made the meeting in breach of regulations. As it happened the cake was simply handed over and they left within minutes.

Fining Boris and Sunak for this is very questionable and they would have been well advised to challenge this - the CPS would almost certainly not have prosecuted. But - as Nadine Dorries says in her book - Boris was NOT well advised. Oliver (Olive) Dowden advised him to just pay the fine and apologise. But Dowden was among those trying to get rid of Boris. 

That's the only breach of rules that the police could find for Boris and, as Boris said, it was the biggest stitch up since the Bayeux tapestry. If you've watched the C4 "factual drama" Partygate you will have noticed that Boris appeared very briefly at "parties" (i.e. meetings) to say a few motivational words to staff or to thank a staff member who was leaving - and the people present were ALL people who worked together and it occurred in their place of work. So he broke no rules. Where rules were broken was after Boris had left and some went out to the local off-licence with a suitcase to get wine etc. This seemed to usually be the lovely Ophelia Lovibond in the C4 program (who played a special advisor).

However Starmer's "Beergate" party was an entirely different matter. This was not held in Starmer's place of work but at an arranged venue (Miners Hall) and a curry buffet was laid on for the 30 or so people who had been invited (who were not in a bubble) and it was not a work event. From film of the event people were wandering around drinking and carrying food from the buffet and not social distancing. And it went on for hours. The Labour party also tried to cover up who was there. This breaches so many Covid rules it's hard to go through them all - but most are obvious. Suffice it say that buffet meals are specifically proscribed in the regulations because of the dangers of cross infection.

The reason that Starmer got off is allegedly because the Durham police "don't prosecute people for historic crimes" - which is a bit odd since all crimes are historic by the time you've detected them. The only thing you got right Sid is that the difference between the two events is indeed colossal. Starmer drove a coach and horses through the Covid rules but denied breaking the rules, while Boris didn't break any rules but meekly paid a fine.  

I am wondering just how many more times posters want to regurgigate this topic ?, because it has been done to death in this forum. 

First of all, the Durham event WAS held on work premises, in Labour Party offices within Durham Miners Hall, it was a scheduled meeting for which there was an agenda, and time stamped video footage was provided to the inquiry which looked into whether any rules were breeched.


Secondly, the take-away food which was ordered was not a buffet, they were individual meals which were staggered in time to eat, in order that small numbers of people went into the kitchen at any one given time.

IT IS A COMPLETE LIE for you to suggest that the reason "Starmer got off" as you put it, was because Durham Constabulary do not prosecute people for historic crimes".

Starmer "got off" because the meeting was a working meeting, not a social event or gathering, the meeting was held in a workplace, and the working meeting had been scheduled.

Just to remind you - that gatherings were allowed for work purposes, and meal or food breaks were allowed during work periods.

There were not one, but TWO police investigations, and both concluded that no rules had been broken, and the police verdict is all that matters , your opinion is both meaningless and irelevant.


The PARTY gatherings of Conservative Party officials were exactly that - "Party Gatherings", with emails specifically stating that it was a "party in the garden" (word for word), and the emails seen by the police and others specifically stated "bring your own booze".

Bollocks. It was NOT a "work event". It took place at a venue at which the invitees did not normally work and the people who were invited were NOT in a bubble. The film showed Starmer milling around with a beer talking to people and not social distancing. There was a buffet meal provided by a local curry tale-way for 30 people  - this is what the take-away shop said. The party went on for hours and ended at after 10pm, at which point Starmer said he "continued working" - although there was no evidence of any work being done at the party and even less after the party. This is all in breach of Covid rules at the time.

By contrast the event that Boris was fined for WAS a work event and was held at a meeting room in no 10 which was a normal work place for govt business. It was a meeting between Boris, Sunak and a few others - who were all colleagues who worked together on a daily basis. There was no food or drink. None of this breaches the rules. Boris's wife briefly brought Boris a birthday cake and left after a few minutes.

It takes a spectacular amount of political bias to say that Boris should be fined for breaching regulations while Starmer's party was legal. And BTW Starmer did state that he would resign if he was investigated by the police. He was investigated twice and still didn't resign.  

Now you are simply making it up as you go along - sorry, but almost everything you have stated above is just a pack of lies, and you are a liar.

The inquiry(s) saw the emails which went out inviting Labour Party officials to the meeting, emails are time and date stamped, meaning that solid proof is always available as to when emails are sent.

If the offices within Durham Miners Hall were the offices of Durham Labour Party, what exactly do you believe went on in those offices other than work or meetings associated with The Labour Party.


There was not ONE breach of rule by Boris Johnson and Conservative Party officials, there were multi events which resulted in the rules been broken, both inside number 10, and outside in the garden.

Emails seen by the police used the word "Party" and the line "bring your own booze" when refering to a gathering in the downing street garden.

In one instance, another party of downing street officials, a video was taken ( how stupid ) and The Daily Mirror obtained the video, showing party officials partying, laughing, and drunk. The officials joked that there was some kind of Downing Street Christmas Party, but that it was a "wine and cheese event", and that it was "Really" a working event, whilst laughing.

Boris and the Tory Party officials were laughing and joking in the face of thousands of people who had lost loved ones, and they were laughing at us stupid people who obeyed the rules, which they believed did not apply to them.

And they now wonder why they are 20 points behind in the polls, and on course to be BOOTED OUT