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Post by jonksy on Nov 6, 2023 13:56:26 GMT
Strange how Beer Starmer got off with his Beergate, clearly photographed swigging on a bottle of beer, and ordering curries for his 'party' during lockdown, but then when you're the ex-DPP I'm sure you have a few handy phone numbers. It was obviously not illegal at the time whereas the partying going on in No.10 was. Is it your contention that if you have a meeting at a work event, perfectly legal at the time, it becomes illegal if you have beer with it? Starmers piss up was illegal rr. It was pre planed for starters.
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 6, 2023 14:15:33 GMT
I've been quite impressed with Nadine Dorries's book - or what I've read in the Mail. I don't like her style of writing - she's been reading too much Jeffrey Archer trash - but what she says makes a lot of sense.
Her investigations have led her to believe that there's a cabal of people who run the Tory party. These are Michael Gove, Dominic Cummings, Dougie Smith and a mysterious figure called Dr No who hasn't yet been named. These people have been controlling the Tory party for years. It's certainly true that Gove and Cummings both worked for "Vote Leave" in order to get us out of the EU. Having done that, and got rid of Cameron on the way, Gove stabbed Boris in the back because he wanted to become PM. This failed spectacularly because the execrable May was made PM as a compromise candidate.
But Cummings, Gove and Smith decided that Boris needed to be made PM - after what May had done to their election chances - so they got rid of May and put their weight behind Boris. Boris delivered an 80 set majority and goy us out of the EU. Then Cummings wanted him out - and this was in the papers. Cummings said that Boris was no longer the PM needed and he wanted Sunak as PM. He made no secret of this. Boris has said that Dougie Smith told him that they wanted him out and if he didn't go they'd force him out.
This was what Partygate and all the other stitch ups were about. There was a relentless campaign in the mainstream media to get rid of Boris and a lot of the disinformation (gold wallpaper nonsense) came from the Tory cabal. So they demoralised Boris and planned the resignations of key people (Sunak and the "Saj" were key). Unfortunately the party membership voted for Truss. So they then turned their disinformation campaign on her. This was very unpleasant involving a lot of sleazy stories put about concerning her and her husband. Also Sunak trashed her budget in the City where he has a lot fof credibility for some reason.
So Cummins, Gove and Smith got their PM. Sadly for them the damage they've done to the Tory party in getting the PM they wanted has made them unelectable. There's not a chance in hell that Sunak will win the election - he couldn't even beat Liz Truss.
A lot of what Nadine Dorries says rings true. No doubt more info will be forthcoming over the next weeks and months.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2023 14:37:08 GMT
It was obviously not illegal at the time whereas the partying going on in No.10 was. Is it your contention that if you have a meeting at a work event, perfectly legal at the time, it becomes illegal if you have beer with it? Starmers piss up was illegal rr. It was pre planed for starters. How does being planned make it illegal? Aren't all meetings planned? What's an unplanned meeting?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2023 14:37:59 GMT
I've been quite impressed with Nadine Dorries's book - or what I've read in the Mail. I don't like her style of writing - she's been reading too much Jeffrey Archer trash - but what she says makes a lot of sense. Her investigations have led her to believe that there's a cabal of people who run the Tory party. These are Michael Gove, Dominic Cummings, Dougie Smith and a mysterious figure called Dr No who hasn't yet been named. These people have been controlling the Tory party for years. It's certainly true that Gove and Cummings both worked for "Vote Leave" in order to get us out of the EU. Having done that, and got rid of Cameron on the way, Gove stabbed Boris in the back because he wanted to become PM. This failed spectacularly because the execrable May was made PM as a compromise candidate. But Cummings, Gove and Smith decided that Boris needed to be made PM - after what May had done to their election chances - so they got rid of May and put their weight behind Boris. Boris delivered an 80 set majority and goy us out of the EU. Then Cummings wanted him out - and this was in the papers. Cummings said that Boris was no longer the PM needed and he wanted Sunak as PM. He made no secret of this. Boris has said that Dougie Smith told him that they wanted him out and if he didn't go they'd force him out. This was what Partygate and all the other stitch ups were about. There was a relentless campaign in the mainstream media to get rid of Boris and a lot of the disinformation (gold wallpaper nonsense) came from the Tory cabal. So they demoralised Boris and planned the resignations of key people (Sunak and the "Saj" were key). Unfortunately the party membership voted for Truss. So they then turned their disinformation campaign on her. This was very unpleasant involving a lot of sleazy stories put about concerning her and her husband. Also Sunak trashed her budget in the City where he has a lot fof credibility for some reason. So Cummins, Gove and Smith got their PM. Sadly for them the damage they've done to the Tory party in getting the PM they wanted has made them unelectable. There's not a chance in hell that Sunak will win the election - he couldn't even beat Liz Truss. A lot of what Nadine Dorries says rings true. No doubt more info will be forthcoming over the next weeks and months. Nadine Dorries is as mad as a box of frogs.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 6, 2023 14:47:31 GMT
Starmers piss up was illegal rr. It was pre planed for starters. How does being planned make it illegal? Aren't all meetings planned? What's an unplanned meeting? Pre planned piss ups were not permitted during lockdown. Now answer the questions, Have you see the gold wallpaper? Were you invited to N0 10?
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Post by jonksy on Nov 6, 2023 14:49:51 GMT
I've been quite impressed with Nadine Dorries's book - or what I've read in the Mail. I don't like her style of writing - she's been reading too much Jeffrey Archer trash - but what she says makes a lot of sense. Her investigations have led her to believe that there's a cabal of people who run the Tory party. These are Michael Gove, Dominic Cummings, Dougie Smith and a mysterious figure called Dr No who hasn't yet been named. These people have been controlling the Tory party for years. It's certainly true that Gove and Cummings both worked for "Vote Leave" in order to get us out of the EU. Having done that, and got rid of Cameron on the way, Gove stabbed Boris in the back because he wanted to become PM. This failed spectacularly because the execrable May was made PM as a compromise candidate. But Cummings, Gove and Smith decided that Boris needed to be made PM - after what May had done to their election chances - so they got rid of May and put their weight behind Boris. Boris delivered an 80 set majority and goy us out of the EU. Then Cummings wanted him out - and this was in the papers. Cummings said that Boris was no longer the PM needed and he wanted Sunak as PM. He made no secret of this. Boris has said that Dougie Smith told him that they wanted him out and if he didn't go they'd force him out. This was what Partygate and all the other stitch ups were about. There was a relentless campaign in the mainstream media to get rid of Boris and a lot of the disinformation (gold wallpaper nonsense) came from the Tory cabal. So they demoralised Boris and planned the resignations of key people (Sunak and the "Saj" were key). Unfortunately the party membership voted for Truss. So they then turned their disinformation campaign on her. This was very unpleasant involving a lot of sleazy stories put about concerning her and her husband. Also Sunak trashed her budget in the City where he has a lot fof credibility for some reason. So Cummins, Gove and Smith got their PM. Sadly for them the damage they've done to the Tory party in getting the PM they wanted has made them unelectable. There's not a chance in hell that Sunak will win the election - he couldn't even beat Liz Truss. A lot of what Nadine Dorries says rings true. No doubt more info will be forthcoming over the next weeks and months. Nadine Dorries is as mad as a box of frogs.Are you a physyologist rr?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2023 14:53:28 GMT
How does being planned make it illegal? Aren't all meetings planned? What's an unplanned meeting? Pre planned piss ups were not permitted during lockdown. Now answer the questions, Have you see the gold wallpaper? Were you invited to N0 10? I was invited once but that was years ago. No I have not seen the gold wallpaper but neither have I seen the dark side of the moon but I know it's there. I cannot believe you are putting any weight into what mad Dorries is saying.😂 She said there was no parties and we all know there were - Johnson had to paint over the gold wallpaper because it kept coming off.😂
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2023 14:54:15 GMT
Nadine Dorries is as mad as a box of frogs. Are you a physyologist rr? I don't need to be to be able to spot a fantasist.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 6, 2023 15:53:48 GMT
Pre planned piss ups were not permitted during lockdown. Now answer the questions, Have you see the gold wallpaper? Were you invited to N0 10? I was invited once but that was years ago. No I have not seen the gold wallpaper but neither have I seen the dark side of the moon but I know it's there. I cannot believe you are putting any weight into what mad Dorries is saying.😂 She said there was no parties and we all know there were - Johnson had to paint over the gold wallpaper because it kept coming off.😂 So its just your usual unfounded bullshit then rr. Thanks for clearing that one up
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Post by jonksy on Nov 6, 2023 15:54:50 GMT
Are you a physyologist rr? I don't need to be to be able to spot a fantasist. So in otherwords you are not qualified to diagnose anyones sanity.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2023 16:20:37 GMT
I was invited once but that was years ago. No I have not seen the gold wallpaper but neither have I seen the dark side of the moon but I know it's there. I cannot believe you are putting any weight into what mad Dorries is saying.😂 She said there was no parties and we all know there were - Johnson had to paint over the gold wallpaper because it kept coming off.😂 So its just your usual unfounded bullshit then rr. Thanks for clearing that one up Where is your evidence that there was no gold wallpaper?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2023 16:21:09 GMT
I don't need to be to be able to spot a fantasist. So in otherwords you are not qualified to diagnose anyones sanity. Neither are you therefore you cannot contradict me.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 6, 2023 16:25:00 GMT
So its just your usual unfounded bullshit then rr. Thanks for clearing that one up Where is your evidence that there was no gold wallpaper? I am asking you rr. The onis is on you as you have stated that it exists.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 6, 2023 16:25:29 GMT
So in otherwords you are not qualified to diagnose anyones sanity. Neither are you therefore you cannot contradict me. Are you sane rr?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2023 20:02:03 GMT
Starmer "got off" with the so called "Beergate" event because he broke no rules
Johnson on the other hand DID break the rules
There was a colossal difference between between what Starmer did, and why, compared to what Johnson did, I understand the difference, inteligent people understand, but ( need I say any more )
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