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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 7, 2023 8:34:04 GMT
Starmer "got off" with the so called "Beergate" event because he broke no rules Johnson on the other hand DID break the rules There was a colossal difference between between what Starmer did, and why, compared to what Johnson did, I understand the difference, inteligent people understand, but ( need I say any more ) The police investigated the No 10 parties for 6 months and issued fixed penalty notices to quite a lot of people, but most of those people were civil servants or advisers. Boris (and Sunak) were fined £50 for one "party" which was actually a meeting arranged in No 10 for a few people (who all worked together anyway). That breaks no rules. The problem was that Carrie gatecrashed the meeting with a cake (for Boris's birthday) and with her interior designer (Lulu Lyttle IIRC). The presence of Ms Lyttle made the meeting in breach of regulations. As it happened the cake was simply handed over and they left within minutes. Fining Boris and Sunak for this is very questionable and they would have been well advised to challenge this - the CPS would almost certainly not have prosecuted. But - as Nadine Dorries says in her book - Boris was NOT well advised. Oliver (Olive) Dowden advised him to just pay the fine and apologise. But Dowden was among those trying to get rid of Boris. That's the only breach of rules that the police could find for Boris and, as Boris said, it was the biggest stitch up since the Bayeux tapestry. If you've watched the C4 "factual drama" Partygate you will have noticed that Boris appeared very briefly at "parties" (i.e. meetings) to say a few motivational words to staff or to thank a staff member who was leaving - and the people present were ALL people who worked together and it occurred in their place of work. So he broke no rules. Where rules were broken was after Boris had left and some went out to the local off-licence with a suitcase to get wine etc. This seemed to usually be the lovely Ophelia Lovibond in the C4 program (who played a special advisor). However Starmer's "Beergate" party was an entirely different matter. This was not held in Starmer's place of work but at an arranged venue (Miners Hall) and a curry buffet was laid on for the 30 or so people who had been invited (who were not in a bubble) and it was not a work event. From film of the event people were wandering around drinking and carrying food from the buffet and not social distancing. And it went on for hours. The Labour party also tried to cover up who was there. This breaches so many Covid rules it's hard to go through them all - but most are obvious. Suffice it say that buffet meals are specifically proscribed in the regulations because of the dangers of cross infection. The reason that Starmer got off is allegedly because the Durham police "don't prosecute people for historic crimes" - which is a bit odd since all crimes are historic by the time you've detected them. The only thing you got right Sid is that the difference between the two events is indeed colossal. Starmer drove a coach and horses through the Covid rules but denied breaking the rules, while Boris didn't break any rules but meekly paid a fine.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 7, 2023 10:20:08 GMT
Why, you will lie anyway.🤣 So you CANNOT prove it then. All you have to do is post a link to prove you are correct.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 7, 2023 10:22:04 GMT
Why would ANY rational person require a letter or explanation? Why do you expect answers but give none yourself? I am rational rr and do not need anyone to prove I am sane.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2023 11:29:25 GMT
Why, you will lie anyway.🤣 So you CANNOT prove it then. All you have to do is post a link to prove you are correct. No I don't have to, you will not believe the evidence that is widely available, go look.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2023 11:30:00 GMT
Why do you expect answers but give none yourself? I am rational rr and do not need anyone to prove I am sane. Then you need to spend more on food.😂
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 7, 2023 12:15:52 GMT
Gold wallpaper in No10 never existed and Boris didn't go to ANY wild lockdown parties, but the plotters knew a lie is halfway around the world before the truth has got its boots on, NADINE DORRIES reveals in the book that's rocking Westminster
Nadine Dorries being such a reliably impartial source of course. Next up a balanced and unbiased take on the role of the monarchy by King Charles.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 7, 2023 13:25:06 GMT
Gold wallpaper in No10 never existed and Boris didn't go to ANY wild lockdown parties, but the plotters knew a lie is halfway around the world before the truth has got its boots on, NADINE DORRIES reveals in the book that's rocking Westminster
Nadine Dorries being such a reliably impartial source of course. Next up a balanced and unbiased take on the role of the monarchy by King Charles. What like gray and harman?
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Post by jonksy on Nov 7, 2023 13:27:08 GMT
I am rational rr and do not need anyone to prove I am sane. Then you need to spend more on food.😂 I don't need food for thought rr.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2023 13:34:15 GMT
Nadine Dorries being such a reliably impartial source of course. Next up a balanced and unbiased take on the role of the monarchy by King Charles. What like gray and harman? When did Gray and Harmon discuss gold wallpaper?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2023 13:35:06 GMT
Then you need to spend more on food.😂 I don't need food for thought rr. But you are ration al, are you not?🤣
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Post by jonksy on Nov 7, 2023 14:02:10 GMT
What like gray and harman? When did Gray and Harmon discuss gold wallpaper? When were they IMPARTIAL
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Post by jonksy on Nov 7, 2023 14:03:19 GMT
I don't need food for thought rr. But you are ration al, are you not?🤣 I don't need some plonker to prove my sanity.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2023 14:31:59 GMT
But you are ration al, are you not?🤣 I don't need some plonker to prove my sanity. They'd never find it any way.
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Post by Vinny on Nov 7, 2023 14:36:08 GMT
Lets remember when Boris made a reasonable comment against veils, Labour misrepresented his comments and tried to make out he was racist.
Anyone who wonders around with their face covered, with just a slit for their eyes visible, resembles a letterbox.
It's got nothing to do with religion as it is not compulsory attire.
If people want to look ridiculous, they can. But it won't stop others thinking they look ridiculous.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 7, 2023 15:22:03 GMT
The only thing that this farce found was that Boris got Brexit done.
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