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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 20, 2023 12:21:25 GMT
What is VERY sinister, is the fact that some people do not like famous people taking the knee ( soccer players, sports people, entertainers, politicians ). The gesture of "Taking The Knee" was ALWAYS meant to be about opposing prejudice and racism, it was never about anything else, and was first used by American Football players. A Nazi salute was a political gesture, it was intended as a political gesture. If "no one can dispute that prejudice should not happen", then why exactly are you opposed to anyone making a gesture as a sign against prejudice. Nope. It WAS a political gesture . Now it can be a gesture for kindness to kittens . Taking the knee was a gesture imported from the US about a problem in the US . It was essentially a gesture supporting BLM . Now the usual leftie suspects are gas lighting us believing that it wasn’t and not only that but it has nothing to do with the nasty BLM . Maybe we should have a gesture for ‘ all lives matter ‘ but that wouldn’t suit the leftie prejudice against white people. I'm going to interpret your call for kindness to kittens to mean you only want it for kittens and is therefore prejudiced against puppies. All Pets Matter.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 20, 2023 12:31:31 GMT
Nope. It WAS a political gesture . Now it can be a gesture for kindness to kittens . Taking the knee was a gesture imported from the US about a problem in the US . It was essentially a gesture supporting BLM . Now the usual leftie suspects are gas lighting us believing that it wasn’t and not only that but it has nothing to do with the nasty BLM . Maybe we should have a gesture for ‘ all lives matter ‘ but that wouldn’t suit the leftie prejudice against white people. Opposing racial prejudice is not political Yes - "taking the knee" was indeed imported from the United States, it was a problem involving race, racism and prejudice, particularly involving racial profiling, but it was not a political problem. "Maybe we should have a gesture for ‘ all lives matter ‘ but that wouldn’t suit the leftie prejudice against white people" In a white majority country like the UK and the United States, white people are not subjected to prejudice from the majority population because they are white. Black people are frequently, even still today, the target of prejudice in the United States, and to a much lesser degree in this country too. The problem with people like you is that you either ignore that racism has been a really big problem in this country, or you deny that it has ever been a problem. You are part and parcel of the same crowd who opposed the very first Race Relations Act in the 1960s, and who felt that Race Hate Laws curtailed your free speech, and that you should be allowed to call a black person the "N" word. People like you say that "Enoch was right", but ignore the fact that he appealed to black people to come to the mother country to work in our NHS, and then he turned to the Indian Sub Continent for shortages of doctors and GPs. Rivers Of Blood ( what a fucking joke ) 1968 - he said that within 15 year "the black man will have the whip hand", what happened in 1983 ? There are still out Out-Of-Date people with Out-Of-Date views who belong in a different century Stop twisting my words YOU mentioned political gestures YOU ..”Nazi salute was a political gesture, it was intended as a political gesture” I replied “Nope. It WAS a political gesture . Now it can be a gesture for kindness to kittens .” At least try to understand your posts and their replies . Taking the knee was an act of support for BLM and BLM imported a problem that has no parallel in the UK. Then you make up a scenario in your head and apply it to the UK..and you accuse me of delusion . Then you make up of series of accusations constructed in your head about me . And you fucking accuse me of ‘ prejudice’. Lol.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 20, 2023 12:37:21 GMT
Nope. It WAS a political gesture . Now it can be a gesture for kindness to kittens . Taking the knee was a gesture imported from the US about a problem in the US . It was essentially a gesture supporting BLM . Now the usual leftie suspects are gas lighting us believing that it wasn’t and not only that but it has nothing to do with the nasty BLM . Maybe we should have a gesture for ‘ all lives matter ‘ but that wouldn’t suit the leftie prejudice against white people. I'm going to interpret your call for kindness to kittens to mean you only want it for kittens and is therefore prejudiced against puppies. All Pets Matter. I’m going to post as prejudice against wild and feral kittens . Your post shows and obvious phobia towards any wild kitten or indeed any small or large animal that identifies as a kitten . All kittens matter .
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Post by Orac on Oct 20, 2023 12:48:30 GMT
Nope. It WAS a political gesture . Now it can be a gesture for kindness to kittens . Taking the knee was a gesture imported from the US about a problem in the US . It was essentially a gesture supporting BLM . Now the usual leftie suspects are gas lighting us believing that it wasn’t and not only that but it has nothing to do with the nasty BLM . Maybe we should have a gesture for ‘ all lives matter ‘ but that wouldn’t suit the leftie prejudice against white people. I'm going to interpret your call for kindness to kittens to mean you only want it for kittens and is therefore prejudiced against puppies. All Pets Matter. Hold on. That's not really analogous to what happened in reality. People started to say 'puppies lives matter' and then that statement was interpreted as prejudiced against kittens. You have it upside down a bit. .
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 20, 2023 13:28:27 GMT
I'm going to interpret your call for kindness to kittens to mean you only want it for kittens and is therefore prejudiced against puppies. All Pets Matter. Hold on. That's not really analogous to what happened in reality. People started to say 'puppies lives matter' and then that statement was interpreted as prejudiced against kittens. You have it upside down a bit. . Yes it is. People said black lives matter and others interpreted it as meaning only black lives matter and therefore it is racist against other skin colours. Let's be honest, the sort of people who thought it was clever to respond All Lives Matter couldn't care less about refugees, transgenders, black youths with water pistols or innocent victims of reprisal airstrikes.
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Post by Orac on Oct 20, 2023 13:34:37 GMT
Hold on. That's not really analogous to what happened in reality. People started to say 'puppies lives matter' and then that statement was interpreted as prejudiced against kittens. You have it upside down a bit. . Yes it is. People said black lives matter and others interpreted it as meaning only black lives matter and therefore it is racist against other skin colours. Few thought the statement 'black lives matter' was intrinsically racist. People concluded that the movement / social meme was used with race supremacist intent when they saw the reaction to (say) 'white lives matter' or 'all lives matter'. People suspected the intent behind its use was often racist and they were proved correct.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 20, 2023 14:31:02 GMT
BLM could of made the same points and focussed on the same allegations of racism if they used the name All lives matter . They chose to use the name Black lives matter …not much diversity there.
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 20, 2023 14:35:18 GMT
We know if there was such a organisation called White Lives Matter it would be instantly accused of racism, and for that reason we are entitled to say the same of Black Lives Matter.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 20, 2023 14:46:02 GMT
We know if there was such a organisation called White Lives Matter it would be instantly accused of racism, and for that reason we are entitled to say the same of Black Lives Matter. Of course it would .
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 20, 2023 14:51:25 GMT
BLM could of made the same points and focussed on the same allegations of racism if they used the name All lives matter . They chose to use the name Black lives matter …not much diversity there. ...because blacks are far more likely to to be discriminated against by US cops. The stats are clear to see. I'd have thought that was so obvious that it didn't need stating.
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 20, 2023 14:52:13 GMT
We know if there was such a organisation called White Lives Matter it would be instantly accused of racism, and for that reason we are entitled to say the same of Black Lives Matter. QED
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Post by Bentley on Oct 20, 2023 15:07:12 GMT
BLM could of made the same points and focussed on the same allegations of racism if they used the name All lives matter . They chose to use the name Black lives matter …not much diversity there. ...because blacks are far more likely to to be discriminated against by US cops. The stats are clear to see. I'd have thought that was so obvious that it didn't need stating. Then ‘ All lives matter ‘ would suffice unless you are a moron who could not see its implication . We are not the US . I'd have thought that was so obvious that it didn't need stating.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2023 15:33:52 GMT
Why would there be any need in the United States or in the UK for an organisation called "White Lives Matter" ?
Are white people picked upon by the police ?
Are white people 9 times more likely to be stopped and searched than black people ?
Are there far too many instances of police officers racialy profiling white people ?
Have white people been shot and killed by police officers because they were white ?
Those posters that simply dont "get it", or cant work it out, or understand why sports people or famous people wish to make a gesture against discrimination, are not very bright.
For several generations black football players in this country endured horrendous racial abuse from the terraces, and to a degree, sometimes still do, but some posters dont seem to grasp why todays generation of soccer players are making it clear that they oppose it, and will stand up against it.
These posters are a lost cause, they clearly believe racism doesnt matter
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 20, 2023 15:36:52 GMT
Why would there be any need in the United States or in the UK for an organisation called "White Lives Matter" ? Are white people picked upon by the police ? Are white people 9 times more likely to be stopped and searched than black people ? Are there far too many instances of police officers racialy profiling white people ? Have white people been shot and killed by police officers because they were white ? Those posters that simply dont "get it", or cant work it out, or understand why sports people or famous people wish to make a gesture against discrimination, are not very bright. For several generations black football players in this country endured horrendous racial abuse from the terraces, and to a degree, sometimes still do, but some posters dont seem to grasp why todays generation of soccer players are making it clear that they oppose it, and will stand up against it. These posters are a lost cause, they clearly believe racism doesnt matter Tell you what, go to Africa and start a WLM White Lives Matter organisation, Good Luck with that one.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 20, 2023 15:39:55 GMT
Why would there be a need to import US racial grievances into the UK? If there was a group protesting about white farmers being killed by blacks in South Africa that called itself ‘ White lives matter ‘ the lefties would either ignore it or condemn it .
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