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Post by Bentley on Mar 3, 2024 16:19:37 GMT
EVs or catalytic converters and DPFs ? Catalytic convertors have been around since 1993. The speed limiting was bought in in 2021. So can't be that. I doubt that there is enough EVs on the road to make a difference either. AFAIK cats are getting better and DPFs are more common. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 3, 2024 18:53:16 GMT
Catalytic convertors have been around since 1993. The speed limiting was bought in in 2021. So can't be that. I doubt that there is enough EVs on the road to make a difference either. AFAIK cats are getting better and DPFs are more common. Good point, though that doesn't change the fact that EV's are pollution free when they travel. Soon every town will smell sweet. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 3, 2024 19:01:10 GMT
I doubt that there is enough EVs on the road to make a difference either. AFAIK cats are getting better and DPFs are more common. Good point, though that doesn't change the fact that EV's are pollution free when they travel. Soon every town will smell sweet. They are smelling sweeter without EVs apparently . Hence Jonksys post. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 3, 2024 20:39:49 GMT
Good point, though that doesn't change the fact that EV's are pollution free when they travel. Soon every town will smell sweet. They are smelling sweeter without EVs apparently . Hence Jonksys post. Big deal. So smoky joes is a fraction less smoky. Mean while clean Jim's has no smoke at all. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 3, 2024 20:50:55 GMT
They are smelling sweeter without EVs apparently . Hence Jonksys post. Big deal. So smoky joes is a fraction less smoky. Mean while clean Jim's has no smoke at all. Is it just a fraction less smoky? I suspect that it must be a significant reduction. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 3, 2024 22:11:24 GMT
Big deal. So smoky joes is a fraction less smoky. Mean while clean Jim's has no smoke at all. Is it just a fraction less smoky? I suspect that it must be a significant reduction. Is that a good thing. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 3, 2024 22:19:03 GMT
Is it just a fraction less smoky? I suspect that it must be a significant reduction. Is that a good thing. It’s a good thing for drivers . Of course , if Smokey air was the whole problem then we should just ban cars altogether . That would solve the problem , job done .👍 |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 3, 2024 22:29:27 GMT
There is absolutely no chance of any widespread infrastructure for charging EV's getting built across Africa and Central/South America.  For all your wishful thinking you cannot get around the range limitations or the environmental issues that make EV's impractical in much of the world. LOLS...  |
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Post by steppenwolf on Mar 4, 2024 7:27:36 GMT
And there's the rub. There aren't. The effects you are told about are tiny or already measured in the climate change model By comparison. We know the big effect of centrifugal force on earths orbit around the sun and we allow for it. You could claim meteorite strikes on earth might effect earths orbit, but they don't and scientists ignore them. You don't have to measure the effects of meteorite strikes to prove its not them. I have repeatedly asked the deniers on here what this other force is that can produce the 7,500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules of energy needed to warm the planet 1.5 degrees.
I have never had anything close to an answer. I mean it should be pretty easy considering the amount of energy involved.
But no one is disputing this, its you disputing climate change. Really. I find it hard to put into words the gigantic intellectual gulf that exists between the reality of climate change and the idea that urban hot spots or tarmac can create 7,500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules of energy. I'm guessing you have never considered the ridiculousness of the claims, but that's because you so want it not to be so. You've had plenty of answers. You just don't read them or don't understand. If you use a unit like joule to measure anything on the scale of the Earth you're going to get a ridiculously high figure because it's not a suitable unit. A joule is the energy needed to lift a kilogram weight 1 metre - so it's a small unit. It would be better to use terawatt hours etc. I don't know where you get this (almost certainly spurious) figure from but it's of no interest except if you can also supply the amount of cooling that CO2 causes by driving photosynthesis. You never answer this. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Mar 4, 2024 7:34:56 GMT
I doubt that there is enough EVs on the road to make a difference either. AFAIK cats are getting better and DPFs are more common. Good point, though that doesn't change the fact that EV's are pollution free when they travel. Soon every town will smell sweet. Petrol cars don't emit any pollution either. They emit CO2 and water only - neither of which smell. The catalytic convertor cleaned up car exhausts many decades ago. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 4, 2024 7:44:47 GMT
It’s a good thing for drivers . Of course , if Smokey air was the whole problem then we should just ban cars altogether . That would solve the problem , job done .👍 or ban smoky ones. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 4, 2024 7:49:06 GMT
Good point, though that doesn't change the fact that EV's are pollution free when they travel. Soon every town will smell sweet. Petrol cars don't emit any pollution either. They emit CO2 and water only - neither of which smell. The catalytic convertor cleaned up car exhausts many decades ago. Emissions from petrol cars have been dramatically reduced by the introduction of catalytic converters, which oxidise pollutants such as CO to less harmful gases such as CO2. When compared to petrol cars without catalysts, catalyst cars have much lower CO, HC and NOx emissions, at the expense of CO2 emissions, which increase due to the oxidation of carbon monoxide to CO2. As a consequence of this, a catalyst car will also use slightly more fuel and become less efficient. However, despite these improvements, petrol cars with catalysts still produce more CO and HC than diesel cars,Older ones are even worse |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 4, 2024 7:49:22 GMT
It’s a good thing for drivers . Of course , if Smokey air was the whole problem then we should just ban cars altogether . That would solve the problem , job done .👍 or ban smoky ones. we already have - cars have never been cleaner. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 4, 2024 7:50:25 GMT
I doubt that there is enough EVs on the road to make a difference either. AFAIK cats are getting better and DPFs are more common.
Soon every town will smell sweet. When did EV's stop producing particulate pollution? |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 4, 2024 7:52:22 GMT
we already have - cars have never been cleaner. And that's a very good thing, glad you finally admit it. Roll on electric cars. |
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