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Post by zanygame on Mar 1, 2024 20:38:19 GMT
I think that the fact that you have to resort to using chatbots to define what scientific method is says it all. The fact is that no one can say that man-made CO2 is causing most of the warming when they're not in a position to evaluate the contribution of all the other factors. Scientists are not magicians. It's mathematically impossible. When confronted with complex systems they usually try to do control experiments (eliminating as many factors as possible to simplify it) but it's very difficult with a system as complex as the Earth - especially when the different factors interact with each other. No one knows what the major factor is in warming, but my bet would be that it's caused directly or indirectly by the massive increase in human population - not by the slight increase in CO2. I think the fact you ran with that shows how weak your arguments are. ChatGBT is just an online dictionary. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 1, 2024 20:41:20 GMT
You may recall that the French are taking steps to head off Chinese dumping by making EV subsidies dependent upon the amount of carbon dioxide and other pollutants emitted during a vehicle's production. The EU is said to be about to propose a similar regulation across Europe.
There's still the UK of course, the 'market of last resort'.
Wow, those Chinese who won't do anything about climate change, building thousands of Electric vehicles really cheap. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 1, 2024 22:18:32 GMT
BMW is putting faith in its new hydrogen SUV The iX5 Hydrogen produces electricity via a hydrogen fuel cell, which drives the electric motor while releasing only water vapor from the tailpipe. The iX5 Hydrogen has a range of up to 300 miles on a single tank of hydrogen and can be refueled in about 3-4 minutes. Aside from its clean emissions, the BMW iX5 Hydrogen has impressive performance credentials. With 401 horsepower, it can accelerate from 0 to 60 mph in less than 6 seconds, providing a thrilling driving experience. It maintains highway prowess with a top speed of more than 112 miles per hour. The 6 kg hydrogen tank provides a reasonable range, and the quick refueling time of 3-4 minutes ensures minimal downtime on the road. hydrogen-central.com/bmw-is-going-all-in-on-hydrogen-theyve-moved-on-from-electrics-and-have-already-launched-their-new-car-lagrada/An electric motor to give the acceleration of an EV. A range similar to an EV. I guess that leaves, you can fill it up quick. Assuming you can find a hydrogen station. Well it gets around the other negatives of EV's as well |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 1, 2024 22:22:06 GMT
Wow, those Chinese who won't do anything about climate change, building thousands of Electric vehicles really cheap. building them using power from coal fired power stations - yep, the Chinese have certainly solved climate change. I'm also not convinced that building cheap throwaway cars and turning them into white goods is particularly good for the planet - longevity and repair ability is more green. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 2, 2024 0:10:56 GMT
An electric motor to give the acceleration of an EV. A range similar to an EV. I guess that leaves, you can fill it up quick. Assuming you can find a hydrogen station. Well it gets around the other negatives of EV's as well Why presenting others. Such as the cost of producing the fuel. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 2, 2024 0:11:55 GMT
Wow, those Chinese who won't do anything about climate change, building thousands of Electric vehicles really cheap. building them using power from coal fired power stations - yep, the Chinese have certainly solved climate change. I'm also not convinced that building cheap throwaway cars and turning them into white goods is particularly good for the planet - longevity and repair ability is more green. A little now saving a lot later. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 2, 2024 8:05:06 GMT
Well it gets around the other negatives of EV's as well Why presenting others. Such as the cost of producing the fuel. Electricity from renewables is more expensive than petrol. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 2, 2024 8:07:06 GMT
building them using power from coal fired power stations - yep, the Chinese have certainly solved climate change. I'm also not convinced that building cheap throwaway cars and turning them into white goods is particularly good for the planet - longevity and repair ability is more green. A little now saving a lot later. what are you saving? - certainly not CO2 emissions..  |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 2, 2024 8:12:29 GMT
Why presenting others. Such as the cost of producing the fuel. Electricity from renewables is more expensive than petrol. And how do you produce hydrogen? |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 2, 2024 8:15:35 GMT
A little now saving a lot later. what are you saving? - certainly not CO2 emissions.. Yep co2. The millions of EV's the Chinese are selling cheap will cut emissions by an amount that dwarfs those from there few Coal powered power stations. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 2, 2024 8:19:28 GMT
what are you saving? - certainly not CO2 emissions.. Yep co2. The millions of EV's the Chinese are selling cheap will cut emissions by an amount that dwarfs those from there few Coal powered power stations. The creation of CO2 in the manufacturing process takes years to pay off - cheap disposable cars are not the solution. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 2, 2024 8:20:10 GMT
Electricity from renewables is more expensive than petrol. And how do you produce hydrogen? Gas.. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 2, 2024 8:35:56 GMT
Yep co2. The millions of EV's the Chinese are selling cheap will cut emissions by an amount that dwarfs those from there few Coal powered power stations. The creation of CO2 in the manufacturing process takes years to pay off - cheap disposable cars are not the solution. Disposable cars? You choose your words cleverly to mislead. Yes years to pay off, but we're hoping top be here for centuries. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 2, 2024 8:36:35 GMT
And how do you produce hydrogen? Gas.. Then you might as well use petrol. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 2, 2024 8:40:21 GMT
The creation of CO2 in the manufacturing process takes years to pay off - cheap disposable cars are not the solution. Disposable cars? You choose your words cleverly to mislead. Yes years to pay off, but we're hoping top be here for centuries. How so? - we know that all white goods and electronics now are built down to a price and designed to be disposable and simply replaced rather than repaired when they go wrong. surely you are not expecting cheap cars to be any different?. |
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