Charging an EV may be more expensive than you think...

You know probably the easiest way to do it is just order a full kit from China. You specify the number of Watts you want and you get the whole thing, even supplying the tools you need for the job and all as one package at a discount rate over the individual components.  This way it means you have an expert who has checked the entire kit is the best choice. All you have to do is follow simple instructions. It's virtually plug and play, but indeed the hardest part is fitting the clamps under the tiles, although there is a trick one can use to do it easily. Now I know the Brits on these council estates can be a bit slap-dash about stuff and think they can economise by using the wrong wiring and what have you, but if these firemen were honest they would issue good sensible advice like I'm doing. Instead they treat us as children, and want it all out of our immature reach. You have to understand the game they play. They want in as middlemen, costing you more for your energy and stuffing you every inch of the way. I know the deal since I know how this stuff works. The batteries are a special type for solar energy. They are larger than the ones used for cars, but that does not matter because it has the space, and weight is not a consideration either. The reasons they are used is they are cheaper and they don't blow up. Modern inverters should also be computerised so they can detect fault conditions, such as a loose connection on the wiring. 

Well it shows you don't have any class. You see Brits have been buying Ming porcelain for a long time. Joshiah Wedgewood made a career out of ripping them off. 

It was the technology of the day. Apparently the Romans were the masters, but Chinese was next. It was Wedgwoods dream to get his porcelain as fine as the Roman, but it was a high bar to set himself. 

They have always invented stuff except in the Qing dynasty where it was run a bit more like the UK is at the moment, i.e. in a highly repressive way. China is now the world leader in batteries and solar panels. Britain really should try and catch up a bit as our technology lags badly. If it were not for China we would be paying through the nose like hell for it from the good old US of A and its cowboy trade. Personally I was very sceptical this green technology would be any good myself, but latest performance figures say otherwise. The new heat pumps are a lot better than the ones of five years ago. They are starting to get 21st century about it and use computers and the like. China is investing in microchips in a big way as well. Soon they will be selling chips for pennies that used to cost pounds.

You can go a long way to achieving your green targets by being intelligent. I was trying to say a while back that the best way to heat water is to use artificial intelligence to do it, so it heats it as cheaply as possible. Looking the other day I notice a British firm has now developed exactly this idea and they say initial results show that for an industrial hot water tank the new type is only 3/4 of the size and saves over 1/3 in energy. You get all this from a microchip costing very little. That's a big saving in steel, cost and even space for industry all over the world, just by that one little invention alone. 

The fact that even someone as intelligent as you DD can't see that these cars are useless - and always will be - just shows how powerful the "drip drip" of green indoctrination is. I expect people like zany to believe any daft fad that comes along but ....

There are so many problems with this technology that it's hard to know where to begin. If you say that there aren't enough charging points you're right of course. But who's going to build them? The private sector aren't going to because you can't make a profit from them. And then how many do we need? As a rough rule of thumb we need about 20 times (minimum) as many chargers as there are petrol/diesel pumps - look up the data and start wondering where the land comes from to site them. And then you have the problem that the National Grid can't support even the tiny number we now have - most of which are useless slow chargers. Richard Tice wanted to install a reasonably fast charger (50kW) at one of his businesses but has now given up after trying for years because the costs are huge and there's  a wait of many years. The National Grid was NEVER designed to do this and will need huge updating that will cost vast amounts of money. Etc.

Then you've got the problem of the actual supply of electricity. Latest estimates are that we need 5 more nuclear stations like Hinckley C - which is costing over £100 billion to build and has taken 11 years so far. Then you've got the problem of how long these cars take to charge up. That's an intractable problem because of the basic physics of delivering energy down a wire. It's ALWAYS going to take too long to be practical for most people. Then you have the cost - these cars started off as being cheap to run but now they're not. Then the danger of the batteries exploding. As more come onto the rods and they get older this will become more apparent. Then there's the problem that battery failure causes the WHOLE car to be written off - not very green. You get the idea. Remember it took only ONE problem (which can be solved) to put the kybosh on diesels. 

But there's the even bigger problem that it's highly dubious that these cars will result in less CO2 emissions than what they're replacing, because of the cost (and environmental damage) of building the batteries. The whole thing is just an outbreak collective insanity on a vast scale. In a few years we'll look back on this as some kind mass delusion, probably provoked by clever disinformation by our many enemies. Tesla will be bust of course, but the mainstream car manufacturers will just carry on making petrol cars - massively enriched by the "subsidies" they've screwed out of governments for "green" vehicles. These people KNOW that it's all a joke but they also know they can make vast sums from going along with it. 

Once again, it's silly to want to project a set of problems that are unique to the UK onto other, more developed countries.

Well you don't understand zany. You still think you can get a gallon from a pint pot as far as household electrics are concerned.