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Post by jonksy on Dec 24, 2023 10:58:36 GMT
Every fucking thread on the subject you try to convert to a tribute to bumburgher. You mean I fight my corner. No shit. Happy Christmas I am having a great Xmas I am outside chainsawing up more logs for the wood burning stove. A great time the smell of fresh sawn cedar and again when we burn it. Dare I mention I am on my second gallon of 2 stroke today to enjoy my sawing up of of cedar....Happy days.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 24, 2023 11:48:47 GMT
The fact that even someone as intelligent as you DD can't see that these cars are useless - and always will be - just shows how powerful the "drip drip" of green indoctrination is. I expect people like zany to believe any daft fad that comes along but .... There are so many problems with this technology that it's hard to know where to begin. If you say that there aren't enough charging points you're right of course. But who's going to build them? The private sector aren't going to because you can't make a profit from them. And then how many do we need? As a rough rule of thumb we need about 20 times (minimum) as many chargers as there are petrol/diesel pumps - look up the data and start wondering where the land comes from to site them. And then you have the problem that the National Grid can't support even the tiny number we now have - most of which are useless slow chargers. Richard Tice wanted to install a reasonably fast charger (50kW) at one of his businesses but has now given up after trying for years because the costs are huge and there's a wait of many years. The National Grid was NEVER designed to do this and will need huge updating that will cost vast amounts of money. Etc. Then you've got the problem of the actual supply of electricity. Latest estimates are that we need 5 more nuclear stations like Hinckley C - which is costing over £100 billion to build and has taken 11 years so far. Then you've got the problem of how long these cars take to charge up. That's an intractable problem because of the basic physics of delivering energy down a wire. It's ALWAYS going to take too long to be practical for most people. Then you have the cost - these cars started off as being cheap to run but now they're not. Then the danger of the batteries exploding. As more come onto the rods and they get older this will become more apparent. Then there's the problem that battery failure causes the WHOLE car to be written off - not very green. You get the idea. Remember it took only ONE problem (which can be solved) to put the kybosh on diesels. But there's the even bigger problem that it's highly dubious that these cars will result in less CO2 emissions than what they're replacing, because of the cost (and environmental damage) of building the batteries. The whole thing is just an outbreak collective insanity on a vast scale. In a few years we'll look back on this as some kind mass delusion, probably provoked by clever disinformation by our many enemies. Tesla will be bust of course, but the mainstream car manufacturers will just carry on making petrol cars - massively enriched by the "subsidies" they've screwed out of governments for "green" vehicles. These people KNOW that it's all a joke but they also know they can make vast sums from going along with it. Once again, it's silly to want to project a set of problems that are unique to the UK onto other, more developed countries. What other developed countries do you have in mind when you say that they do not have similar problems to the UK?.
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 24, 2023 12:06:50 GMT
Pretty much all of western Europe and the USA and Canada. Not sure about Australia and NZ, they have some funny ways of doing things too.
By the way, I referred to a 'set of problems'.
One very serious problem in that set that is peculiar to the UK is that so much important infrastructure is under foreign ownership and control.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 24, 2023 12:14:51 GMT
Pretty much all of western Europe and the USA and Canada. Not sure about Australia and NZ, they have some funny ways of doing things too. By the way, I referred to a 'set of problems'. One very serious problem in that set that is peculiar to the UK is that so much important infrastructure is under foreign ownership and control. Brits are being treated as children because they are children. You should have listened to the list of notices when trying to get a bus. They had to explain to the babies what a handrail is, to warn them if the coach is turning left, and about 5 minutes of other nursery school stuff. To see a picture of a Brit house going up in flames because a Brit did some electrics, well that's like commissioning the job at your local primary school.
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Post by jonksy on Dec 24, 2023 12:26:49 GMT
Pretty much all of western Europe and the USA and Canada. Not sure about Australia and NZ, they have some funny ways of doing things too. By the way, I referred to a 'set of problems'. One very serious problem in that set that is peculiar to the UK is that so much important infrastructure is under foreign ownership and control. Brits are being treated as children because they are children. You should have listened to the list of notices when trying to get a bus. They had to explain to the babies what a handrail is, to warn them if the coach is turning left, and about 5 minutes of other nursery school stuff. To see a picture of a Brit house going up in flames because a Brit did some electrics, well that's like commissioning the job at your local primary school. Solar panels are a ticking time bomb BVL.
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Post by zanygame on Dec 24, 2023 12:48:23 GMT
You mean I fight my corner. No shit. Happy Christmas I am having a great Xmas I am outside chainsawing up more logs for the wood burning stove. A great time the smell of fresh sawn cedar and again when we burn it. Dare I mention I am on my second gallon of 2 stroke today to enjoy my sawing up of of cedar....Happy days. Well your wood fire is carbon neutral. so well done. I'm just finishing off the prep for our guests arriving this afternoon. Good times.
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Post by jonksy on Dec 24, 2023 12:51:04 GMT
I am having a great Xmas I am outside chainsawing up more logs for the wood burning stove. A great time the smell of fresh sawn cedar and again when we burn it. Dare I mention I am on my second gallon of 2 stroke today to enjoy my sawing up of of cedar....Happy days. Well your wood fire is carbon neutral. so well done. I'm just finishing off the prep for our guests arriving this afternoon. Good times. How will they get there? Walk maybe?
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Post by zanygame on Dec 24, 2023 12:54:20 GMT
Well your wood fire is carbon neutral. so well done. I'm just finishing off the prep for our guests arriving this afternoon. Good times. How will they get there? Walk maybe? Private jet.
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Post by sheepy on Dec 24, 2023 12:55:09 GMT
Well your wood fire is carbon neutral. so well done. I'm just finishing off the prep for our guests arriving this afternoon. Good times. How will they get there? Walk maybe? That did actually make me laugh out loud, magic carpet.
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Post by jonksy on Dec 24, 2023 12:56:51 GMT
How will they get there? Walk maybe? Private jet. Typical bumburghers then.
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Post by zanygame on Dec 24, 2023 13:27:50 GMT
Typical bumburghers then. Well in the real world its not all or nothing. I know you think that would give you an excuse to do nothing, but its just not like that.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 24, 2023 15:20:45 GMT
Brits are being treated as children because they are children. You should have listened to the list of notices when trying to get a bus. They had to explain to the babies what a handrail is, to warn them if the coach is turning left, and about 5 minutes of other nursery school stuff. To see a picture of a Brit house going up in flames because a Brit did some electrics, well that's like commissioning the job at your local primary school. Solar panels are a ticking time bomb BVL.
The link is duff. They did not explain what caused it, only saying how they protect themselves from the non-risk of electrocuting themselves on low voltage DC wiring. Most inverters usually take up to about 72v. You might feel a little tingle, but this is too much for the pussies in the fire brigade. The thing is you believe the propaganda in the papers. Connecting up a solar installation is easy, but there are a few things you need to know. If kids were less thick they would have learnt the basic principles at school. For example, allow adequate cooling for your batteries, and better still, rig up a thermal cut out. Never exceed manufacturer's specs - that's bloody obvious, and the other one is use the proper wires and connectors for the job, i.e. on the low voltage high current side, make sure it can take the amps and all connections are tightly bolted down. In the old days someone would publish a short book on how to fit your own solar panels. First step - you need to get off your couch and drag yourself away from the football.
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Post by jonksy on Dec 24, 2023 15:51:28 GMT
Solar panels are a ticking time bomb BVL.
The link is duff. They did not explain what caused it, only saying how they protect themselves from the non-risk of electrocuting themselves on low voltage DC wiring. Most inverters usually take up to about 72v. You might feel a little tingle, but this is too much for the pussies in the fire brigade. The thing is you believe the propaganda in the papers. Connecting up a solar installation is easy, but there are a few things you need to know. If kids were less thick they would have learnt the basic principles at school. For example, allow adequate cooling for your batteries, and better still, rig up a thermal cut out. Never exceed manufacturer's specs - that's bloody obvious, and the other one is use the proper wires and connectors for the job, i.e. on the low voltage high current side, make sure it can take the amps and all connections are tightly bolted down. In the old days someone would publish a short book on how to fit your own solar panels. First step - you need to get off your couch and drag yourself away from the football. Nothing duff with the link BVL. And me and football don't jell...
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 24, 2023 16:40:09 GMT
The link is duff. They did not explain what caused it, only saying how they protect themselves from the non-risk of electrocuting themselves on low voltage DC wiring. Most inverters usually take up to about 72v. You might feel a little tingle, but this is too much for the pussies in the fire brigade. The thing is you believe the propaganda in the papers. Connecting up a solar installation is easy, but there are a few things you need to know. If kids were less thick they would have learnt the basic principles at school. For example, allow adequate cooling for your batteries, and better still, rig up a thermal cut out. Never exceed manufacturer's specs - that's bloody obvious, and the other one is use the proper wires and connectors for the job, i.e. on the low voltage high current side, make sure it can take the amps and all connections are tightly bolted down. In the old days someone would publish a short book on how to fit your own solar panels. First step - you need to get off your couch and drag yourself away from the football. Nothing duff with the link BVL. And me and football don't jell... You know probably the easiest way to do it is just order a full kit from China. You specify the number of Watts you want and you get the whole thing, even supplying the tools you need for the job and all as one package at a discount rate over the individual components. This way it means you have an expert who has checked the entire kit is the best choice. All you have to do is follow simple instructions. It's virtually plug and play, but indeed the hardest part is fitting the clamps under the tiles, although there is a trick one can use to do it easily. Now I know the Brits on these council estates can be a bit slap-dash about stuff and think they can economise by using the wrong wiring and what have you, but if these firemen were honest they would issue good sensible advice like I'm doing. Instead they treat us as children, and want it all out of our immature reach. You have to understand the game they play. They want in as middlemen, costing you more for your energy and stuffing you every inch of the way. I know the deal since I know how this stuff works. The batteries are a special type for solar energy. They are larger than the ones used for cars, but that does not matter because it has the space, and weight is not a consideration either. The reasons they are used is they are cheaper and they don't blow up. Modern inverters should also be computerised so they can detect fault conditions, such as a loose connection on the wiring.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 24, 2023 18:11:26 GMT
Pretty much all of western Europe and the USA and Canada. Not sure about Australia and NZ, they have some funny ways of doing things too. By the way, I referred to a 'set of problems'. One very serious problem in that set that is peculiar to the UK is that so much important infrastructure is under foreign ownership and control. But all of those places have exactly the same issues as the UK - many instances have been posted on this forum. There is a dearth of EV recharging stations across Europe (and on other continents) just as there is in the UK - hence they have the same reticence from the public to go out and buy EV's. The joy's of Italy..
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