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Post by zanygame on Dec 11, 2023 19:33:29 GMT
Strangely they don't seem to place large charging stations in places with no wifi. I'm pretty certain you haven't looked around for the best deals on offer. God forbid that you seek a fair and level playing field for your debate. Tell what deal you have in mind. I looked at the octopus one and paua. So educate us - the ball is in your court. What for. It would take a pickaxe to open your mind. |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 11, 2023 22:34:19 GMT
Tell what deal you have in mind. I looked at the octopus one and paua. So educate us - the ball is in your court. What for. It would take a pickaxe to open your mind. well all you have to do is cite which company you are talking about - surely that is not too hard for you? |
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Post by patman post on Dec 11, 2023 22:57:22 GMT
If EVs and PHEVs are so disastrous it’s surprising that over half the black cabs and a growing number of London buses are moving to zero and zero capable vehicles…
PS — Weren’t the bendy-buses known to burst into flames…?
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Post by Bentley on Dec 11, 2023 23:04:29 GMT
If EVs and PHEVs are so disastrous it’s surprising that over half the black cabs and a growing number of London buses are moving to zero and zero capable vehicles… Horses for courses . Modern diesels would have made poor milk floats . We have our mail delivered by a postman in a van . I’m surprised that it’s not an EV . Anyone purchasing that van might find some problems . |
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Post by patman post on Dec 11, 2023 23:23:20 GMT
If EVs and PHEVs are so disastrous it’s surprising that over half the black cabs and a growing number of London buses are moving to zero and zero capable vehicles… Horses for courses . Modern diesels would have made poor milk floats . We have our mail delivered by a postman in a van . I’m surprised that it’s not an EV . Anyone purchasing that van might find some problems . Our postie in N16 gets dropped by a light green Royal Mail electric van to do his round, usually arriving with us at about 2pm — occasional working from home allows me to spot these things. The way things are going I guess we’ll have only three deliveries a week after Saturday deliveries have been dropped… |
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Post by patman post on Dec 11, 2023 23:27:44 GMT
Amazon vans delivering here are electric. I guess they couldn’t use the McDonald’s cost cutting dodge of using refined old chip and burger oil in their diesels…
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Post by jonksy on Dec 12, 2023 4:59:31 GMT
DETROIT (Reuters) - This was the year the auto industry's race toward an all-electric future took a detour. Heading into 2023, automakers were gearing up to invest $1.2 trillion by 2030 to move electric vehicles from niche products to mass-market models - many with batteries and software developed in-house, according to a Reuters analysis.
Electric car demand could stall next year as drivers and major brands lose interest
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Post by jonksy on Dec 12, 2023 6:38:53 GMT
The seven potential hidden costs of your new electric vehicle.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 12, 2023 7:55:57 GMT
Seems the Yanks have the same problem as us - the infrastructure simply cannot accommodate the mass adoption of EV's.
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Post by steppenwolf on Dec 12, 2023 8:53:27 GMT
Sorry zany but your maths is nonsense. I've already said that if you always run off electric power (and therefore do very short journeys) AND you always charge up at home using electricity at 7.5p/kWh it will give you cheap motoring, but it's not equivalent to 168mpg. As you say the true cost of the electricity you use in your car is more like 15.5p/kWh, so that's half the price of petrol/diesel. So you could call your mpg equivalent to 80mpg. That's good but you are using your car in a very specific way, which most people don't. As for the complacent nonsense of Li-ion fires, the fact is that they CANNOT be put out and they DO spread. There are a few fairly obvious examples of this where a car transporter caught fire at sea and 4,000 vehicles were written off after an electric car caught fire - and I think the car transporter was a write-off. There was the case of the Luton Airport fire where a car caught fire (no one has confirmed what car started it but it is known that there were many EVs in the fire) and 1500 cars were written off and the multi-storey car park will have to be demolished. And a recent case where an EV caught fire and burnt their house down. Also the London fire brigade say that there's a serious case of an Li-ion fire every other day. And this is happening when hardly anyone has a BEV. I knew it would be. Whatever I put. But then I didn't expect a fair hearing. I didn't expect you to look at what you pay for electricity, or admit most of your days you travel less than 38 miles, or agree with the published figures that the average journey is only 16 miles. But you asked so I calculated. As for the danger of batteries, I gave you the stats. The Luton airport fire was started by a diesel. It was filmed and the fire service said it was a diesel. Sorry can't be arsed with this crap anymore. The Fire Brigade said it was "thought" to have been started by a diesel. But the reason that the whole car park and every car in it was destroyed by fire was because many BEVs caught fire. That's the problem with BEVs - they need to be parked about 15 ft away from other cars. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2023 10:29:36 GMT
If EVs and PHEVs are so disastrous it’s surprising that over half the black cabs and a growing number of London buses are moving to zero and zero capable vehicles… PS — Weren’t the bendy-buses known to burst into flames…? I didn't know that, I thought they were infamous for mincing cyclists, which, for you, might be considered an advantage? I have a self charging hybrid, but will replace it with a high efficiency petrol or diesel car just before they get banned. |
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Post by jonksy on Dec 12, 2023 10:53:28 GMT
I knew it would be. Whatever I put. But then I didn't expect a fair hearing. I didn't expect you to look at what you pay for electricity, or admit most of your days you travel less than 38 miles, or agree with the published figures that the average journey is only 16 miles. But you asked so I calculated. As for the danger of batteries, I gave you the stats. The Luton airport fire was started by a diesel. It was filmed and the fire service said it was a diesel. Sorry can't be arsed with this crap anymore. The Fire Brigade said it was "thought" to have been started by a diesel. But the reason that the whole car park and every car in it was destroyed by fire was because many BEVs caught fire. That's the problem with BEVs - they need to be parked about 15 ft away from other cars. I have been looking for a story I read in the local paper a few months back but have had no luck finding it. A person down here required a front brake caliper for his Nissan EV and was quoted nearly £300 pound for the unit plus fitting. Because EV's have not caught on there are no aftermarket supplies for spare parts. I drive a Nissan Nevara Outlaw diesel truck and looking on Ebay I can pick up a brand new front caliper which is made in japan with a 5 year warranty for less than 40 quid. Ev's are just bottomless Pits. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 12, 2023 16:23:57 GMT
Does the Galaxy do satellite calls? Nope. And neither does the C6 baron. Nobody wants satelite calls these days it is old hat. Even the molitary have junked theirs. Well I can't think of a better way if you are out of range of the coast. You could use the old marine bands on your ship's radio, but other than that you use a satellite phone. They were very expensive calls and the data rate was limited. Now things are different because if you are within the footprint of China Mobile's satellite you can subscribe with a Huawei phone. I guess it is still pretty pricy for voice calls, but they will send quite cheap text messages, so it has some utility. Besides you don't know the Chinese public. Every young Chinese just loves the latest tech. They can show it off to their friends and they will buy it on the basis that it supports China's innovation. They see technology as the US + UK sees tanks and bombs. They don't support bombs, but they reckon if China gets far enough ahead in its tech then it will be a great power and save the world from the likes of Biden and Co. It's kind of combined nationalism with consumerism. This means there is tons of money for research and development. I say one thing i have noticed. The party over there just loves the P60. It's like a sign of victory. |
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Post by jonksy on Dec 12, 2023 16:44:55 GMT
Nope. And neither does the C6 baron. Nobody wants satelite calls these days it is old hat. Even the molitary have junked theirs. You could use the old marine bands on your ship's radio, but other than that you use a satellite phone. They were very expensive calls and the data rate was limited. Now things are different because if you are within the footprint of China Mobile's satellite you can subscribe with a Huawei phone. I guess it is still pretty pricy for voice calls, but they will send quite cheap text messages, so it has some utility. Besides you don't know the Chinese public. Every young Chinese just loves the latest tech. They can show it off to their friends and they will buy it on the basis that it supports China's innovation. They see technology as the US + UK sees tanks and bombs. They don't support bombs, but they reckon if China gets far enough ahead in its tech then it will be a great power and save the world from the likes of Biden and Co. It's kind of combined nationalism with consumerism. This means there is tons of money for research and development. I say one thing i have noticed. The party over there just loves the P60. It's like a sign of victory. 5g has no range limitations Baron. China just produces outdated crap. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 12, 2023 18:15:04 GMT
Well I can't think of a better way if you are out of range of the coast. You could use the old marine bands on your ship's radio, but other than that you use a satellite phone. They were very expensive calls and the data rate was limited. Now things are different because if you are within the footprint of China Mobile's satellite you can subscribe with a Huawei phone. I guess it is still pretty pricy for voice calls, but they will send quite cheap text messages, so it has some utility. Besides you don't know the Chinese public. Every young Chinese just loves the latest tech. They can show it off to their friends and they will buy it on the basis that it supports China's innovation. They see technology as the US + UK sees tanks and bombs. They don't support bombs, but they reckon if China gets far enough ahead in its tech then it will be a great power and save the world from the likes of Biden and Co. It's kind of combined nationalism with consumerism. This means there is tons of money for research and development. I say one thing i have noticed. The party over there just loves the P60. It's like a sign of victory. 5g has no range limitations Baron. China just produces outdated crap. 5G can transmit on different bands, but you are talking about microwave frequencies that lack range. It's the same principle as the other Gs. It is a network. If you track along the shoreline you can manage but then you have to switch to satellite. China is putting together the satellite constellation for 6G at the moment. It is the UK and US that use outdated crap. The Russians are being kitted out with China telecoms. |
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