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Post by Bentley on Nov 10, 2023 14:12:17 GMT
Nope. You could have bought an EV but you copped out and bought a hybrid. There’s no wriggling out of that one Your hybrid uses two energy sources not just petrol so every time you post an MPG you are posting a bare faced lie . Im happy to be left out of a bunch of lies . boring repetitive dull. Ignoring engaged Lol.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 16, 2023 17:53:41 GMT
Charging an EV just about to get even more expensive...
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 16, 2023 19:25:14 GMT
The GBNews scare story actually says “ Motorists could be charged £1 per minute when charging their electric car”. It doesn’t say “will be”. Maybe in busy Mayfair where there’s a 24hr turnover, but where else? Plenty of charging points round London charge only for the charge. Do you think the organisations who run the street chargers expect residents to get up at 2am to unplug their cars because they’re fully charged…? No, but what you could do is have a cable at every bay. As one car finishes charging then the charger just gets made available to someone arriving in a different bay. You would then need less chargers because it eliminates the problem entirely.
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Post by patman post on Nov 16, 2023 20:32:19 GMT
It wouldn't need loads of data. Just two averages over the cars life.saving on brake replacement and servicing. Extra number of tyres. Nearly all battery guarantees allow for some deterioration around 25% over 10 years.the manufacturers do not expect many claims because that is ghe number they should not get to. And as I say,still getting 80% after 100,000 miles is bloody brilliant. Like I said you're naive. I remember when my 4 year old Merc SL350 was going rusty here and there so I took it to the Merc dealer to get it put right - after all Mercedes guarantee their cars against rust for 20 years. The Merc dealer got out the full terms of the "Mobilo warranty" and I realised that there were so many conditions attached that no one would ever be able to claim on it. I said this to the dealer and he said that he wasn't aware of anyone ever claiming successfully. He said the best I could hope for is a "goodwill" payment towards the repairs, but it was highly unlikely that Merc would even offer this. If someone takes their 8 year old BEV to the dealer after the range had gone down below whatever figure they guarantee he'll be presented with a vast list of conditions (like being serviced on time at a main dealer, never crashed - or repaired at a main dealer if it has been etc etc). And in the unlikely event that he satisfies all the requirements they'll take it away and "test" it and say the battery's OK. And you won't be able to a thing about it. These guarantees are designed to never be claimed on - they're just there to make you buy the car. You’re possibly correct about the many difficulties of claiming. But the main dealer requirement for servicing to maintain warranty was made illegal some years ago by the EU, and the UK has retained that ruling…
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 17, 2023 8:56:01 GMT
This may apply to the basic new car guarantee but, certainly on the Mercedes Mobilo guarantee you had to have a full Mercedes service history - and many other things - in order to claim. Any battery guarantee on a BEV would have to be checked to find out what conditions apply. For example some only apply to the original owner. I suspect that this battery guarantee is one that will never be claimed on because the costs are so high. There will be a reason why the guarantee is void.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 24, 2023 8:27:21 GMT
This may apply to the basic new car guarantee but, certainly on the Mercedes Mobilo guarantee you had to have a full Mercedes service history - and many other things - in order to claim. Any battery guarantee on a BEV would have to be checked to find out what conditions apply. For example some only apply to the original owner. I suspect that this battery guarantee is one that will never be claimed on because the costs are so high. There will be a reason why the guarantee is void. Electric car sales set to plummet with falling driver demand ahead of major announcement
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 24, 2023 8:35:38 GMT
There was a bloke in Canada the other day who had a Hyundai EV that was about 5 years old and the battery died. It was out of warranty and Hyundai wanted to charge him £30,000 for a new battery.. Needless to say he just scrapped the car for £750..
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 25, 2023 9:31:55 GMT
This may apply to the basic new car guarantee but, certainly on the Mercedes Mobilo guarantee you had to have a full Mercedes service history - and many other things - in order to claim. Any battery guarantee on a BEV would have to be checked to find out what conditions apply. For example some only apply to the original owner. I suspect that this battery guarantee is one that will never be claimed on because the costs are so high. There will be a reason why the guarantee is void. Electric car sales set to plummet with falling driver demand ahead of major announcement
linkThe electric car market was always propped up by company car sales. Private buyers were always reluctant to buy them except as a shopping car. But the leases on electric cars are becoming much less attractive because of the poor resale value of these cars so even company sales are down. Pure electric battery powered cars were always a non-starter IMO. They don't even cut CO2 emissions anyway.
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Post by walterpaisley on Nov 26, 2023 8:19:08 GMT
Private buyers were always reluctant to buy them except as a shopping car. I'm not sure how accurate that is, on an anecdotal level. I know a good number of people locally who own an EV as their principle/only car (including one who regularly - pretty much fortnightly - drives his Tesla from Derbyshire to Glasgow). I've even taken the plunge and ordered one myself (I'll have it before Xmas, all being well).
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Post by sheepy on Nov 26, 2023 8:55:19 GMT
Private buyers were always reluctant to buy them except as a shopping car. I'm not sure how accurate that is, on an anecdotal level. I know a good number of people locally who own an EV as their principle/only car (including one who regularly - pretty much fortnightly - drives his Tesla from Derbyshire to Glasgow). I've even taken the plunge and ordered one myself (I'll have it before Xmas, all being well). A bit late for some advice then, an EV is heavier on brake wear and suspension replacement as they are heavier than your normal hack, plus the electronics when they go wrong can catch fire.
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Post by walterpaisley on Nov 26, 2023 8:57:54 GMT
I'll take my chances, thanks.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 26, 2023 9:00:45 GMT
I'll take my chances, thanks. You already did Walter. I am just pointing out the EV revolution also has its downsides. It isn't all gravy, which some people would have us believe it is. Which there are a lot people already moaning about them, as they thought they were maintenance free. I know someone who is going to buy a Tesla next year, so I just said your choice these are some of the pitfalls, but if you think this the way forward then obviously buy one as you are probably buying the best EV which has been around a while and are still probably miles ahead of the rest.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 26, 2023 9:10:55 GMT
Percentage of car sales UK. YEAR BEV PHEV
2020 6.6% 4.1%
2021 11.6% 7.0%
2022 16.6% 6.3%
2023 16.3% 7.1%
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Post by walterpaisley on Nov 26, 2023 9:40:28 GMT
I'll take my chances, thanks. You already did Walter. I am just pointing out the EV revolution also has its downsides. It isn't all gravy, which some people would have us believe it is. Which there are a lot people already moaning about them, as they thought they were maintenance free. I know someone who is going to buy a Tesla next year, so I just said your choice these are some of the pitfalls, but if you think this the way forward then obviously buy one as you are probably buying the best EV which has been around a while and are still probably miles ahead of the rest. I have ridden in a couple of Teslas, and very nice they are, too - but putting a penny into Mr Musk's pocket is something I couldn't bring myself to do - so it's an MG I went for (it came down to a choice between that an a BMW, and there was so little between them that it just came down to price - I wasn't about to spend almost twice the cost on a Beemer just for one or two extra bells and whistles that I'd probably never even use. Plus, I get to have a car in the colour I want for no extra cost - BMW charge a fortune for anything beyond the basic..)
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Post by zanygame on Nov 26, 2023 9:46:54 GMT
You already did Walter. I am just pointing out the EV revolution also has its downsides. It isn't all gravy, which some people would have us believe it is. Which there are a lot people already moaning about them, as they thought they were maintenance free. I know someone who is going to buy a Tesla next year, so I just said your choice these are some of the pitfalls, but if you think this the way forward then obviously buy one as you are probably buying the best EV which has been around a while and are still probably miles ahead of the rest. I have ridden in a couple of Teslas, and very nice they are, too - but putting a penny into Mr Musk's pocket is something I couldn't bring myself to do - so it's an MG I went for (it came down to a choice between that an a BMW, and there was so little between them that it just came down to price - I wasn't about to spend almost twice the cost on a Beemer just for one or two extra bells and whistles that I'd probably never even use. Plus, I get to have a car in the colour I want for no extra cost - BMW charge a fortune for anything beyond the basic..) My son has the MG ZS EV. He is very pleased with it. Range etc seem to match EU figures.
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