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Post by zanygame on Nov 1, 2023 17:28:03 GMT
They all have the same problem. The batteries are fragile and are placed very low in the vehicle (to keep the C of G low) and therefore susceptible to damage. And when they're damaged they're dangerous do they have to be replaced. But replacement is so expensive that it usually means that the vehicle is an uneconomic repair. It's completely crazy that they're building these vehicles but if people buy them the manufacturers will keep making them. Th ebuyers are stupid - but many people ARE stupid. The batteries are not fragile the cars pass the same crash tests as ICE vehicles What damage are they susceptible to by being placed in the middle of the floor?
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Post by zanygame on Nov 1, 2023 17:28:47 GMT
In these times of storms and local flooding, I wonder how good EVs are in deep puddles and fords ? Look it up?
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Post by Bentley on Nov 1, 2023 17:31:11 GMT
In these times of storms and local flooding, I wonder how good EVs are in deep puddles and fords ? Look it up? I didn't ask you personally . I asked a general question . The answer isn’t ‘ look it up’.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 1, 2023 17:34:13 GMT
www.electrifying.com/blog/knowledge-hub/electric-cars-and-floods-everything-you-need-to-knowHowever, the exterior of the battery pack is electrically isolated, and takes on additional shielding. The high-voltage power-lines running from the battery to the electrical motors are similarly insulated. Electric and hybrid cars also feature fail-safe systems that automatically isolate electrical drivetrain components in the event of a collision or short circuit. Though it’s not an exact science, some actually believe electric cars are better suited to driving in standing water than cars with combustion engines. This is because petrol or diesel cars can easily be stopped in their tracks by water flooding into the engine via air intakes. It’s a good idea to check the maximum wading depth for your car, too. Generally, electric cars are on a par with their combustion powered siblings. For example, both an Audi Q8 and an Audi e-tron have a 500mm maximum rating, as per Audi’s official figures. But it varies from car to car.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 1, 2023 17:34:44 GMT
I didn't ask you personally . I asked a general question . The answer isn’t ‘ look it up’. I wasn't an answer it was a suggestion.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 1, 2023 17:41:37 GMT
I didn't ask you personally . I asked a general question . The answer isn’t ‘ look it up’. I wasn't an answer it was a suggestion. I asked a question , not for snide advice .
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Post by zanygame on Nov 1, 2023 20:55:08 GMT
I wasn't an answer it was a suggestion. I asked a question , not for snide advice . Nothing snide about suggesting you look it up. Your question suggested you were interested, so am I, so I thought you might have a look and post what you found.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 1, 2023 20:59:30 GMT
I asked a question , not for snide advice . Nothing snide about suggesting you look it up. Your question suggested you were interested, so am I, so I thought you might have a look and post what you found. Stop back peddling and look it up.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 1, 2023 22:29:54 GMT
Nothing snide about suggesting you look it up. Your question suggested you were interested, so am I, so I thought you might have a look and post what you found. Stop back peddling and look it up. I did. And posted it and a link about 4 posts up.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 1, 2023 22:33:45 GMT
Stop back peddling and look it up. I did. And posted it and a link about 4 posts up. Good for you .
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Post by zanygame on Nov 2, 2023 7:08:06 GMT
I did. And posted it and a link about 4 posts up. Good for you . Sigh.
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 2, 2023 8:27:38 GMT
www.electrifying.com/blog/knowledge-hub/electric-cars-and-floods-everything-you-need-to-knowHowever, the exterior of the battery pack is electrically isolated, and takes on additional shielding. The high-voltage power-lines running from the battery to the electrical motors are similarly insulated. Electric and hybrid cars also feature fail-safe systems that automatically isolate electrical drivetrain components in the event of a collision or short circuit. Though it’s not an exact science, some actually believe electric cars are better suited to driving in standing water than cars with combustion engines. This is because petrol or diesel cars can easily be stopped in their tracks by water flooding into the engine via air intakes. It’s a good idea to check the maximum wading depth for your car, too. Generally, electric cars are on a par with their combustion powered siblings. For example, both an Audi Q8 and an Audi e-tron have a 500mm maximum rating, as per Audi’s official figures. But it varies from car to car. I think you might want to look at the video that pacifico posted, zany. It clearly shows electric cars catching on fire either after being submerged in water or after being removed from water. And it showed that the battery continues to burn even under water. And when the battery is literally inches from your bum - and prone to explosion - that's not very encouraging. It's possible that these cars had damaged batteries - and that a new car would not do this - but the problem is that these batteries are fairly fragile. That's why in every other application of Li-ion batteries you're told not to subject the batteries to shock (like dropping them). Unfortunately a car is always being subjected to shock just driving along the road, And advisers to the car repair industry advise that EVs that have been subjected to even minor shunts are susceptible to battery damage and should be separated from other cars and buildings by at least 15 feet. And any suspicion of battery damage requires a new battery (i.e. it's a write off). There is a reason why the Royal Mail are very strict about accepting packages that have Li-ion batteries in them. They only accept very low capacity batteries like in a camera or phone.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 2, 2023 12:21:18 GMT
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 2, 2023 15:11:12 GMT
Interesting comparison. 2 guys decided to drive from John O'Groats to Lands End. - one in an EV (a £120k Porsche), the other in a £3500 BMW 320D that he bought off facebook. It took the EV driver (not surprisingly) longer to get to Lands End - he was 6 hours behind the Diesel (and had a whole lot of stress to go with it). What was surprising was that it cost the EV driver over twice as much as the Diesel - £259 vs £122. So the Diesel driver could have gone from John O'Groats to Lands End and back again, for less that the guy in the EV spent to go one way. so next time someone tells you that EV's are the future - remember they are trying to bankrupt you..
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Post by jonksy on Nov 2, 2023 15:24:13 GMT
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