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Post by Tinculin on Oct 13, 2023 0:13:11 GMT
I shouldn't need to spell out the difference between a terrorist group purposefully targeting civilians of Israel while hiding it's military assets beneath Hospitals in Gaza..... Israel is at war, it has given warning and told civilians in Gaza to leave the areas it intends to attack. Do you know who is stopping those civilians from leaving? That's right, yet again, Hamas, because it doesn't care for the average civilian in Palestine, it cares for its extremist views and hoping the bodies it uses as meatshields will keep them safe...... Israel is justified in removing Hamas completely from Gaza, obviously there is a lot of pressure for Israel to do things right, rather than sink to Hamas' level, but there is an acceptance that Hamas' military assets will be destroyed This is why terrorist organizations are labelled such, because they use human shields and target civilians indiscriminately. Do they need to cut the water and medical supplies to achieve that? Not at all, nor do I think this is why they've cut supplies. They've cut the water and medical supplies until Hamas returns Israel's civilian hostages. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 13, 2023 1:31:20 GMT
Do they need to cut the water and medical supplies to achieve that? Not at all, nor do I think this is why they've cut supplies. They've cut the water and medical supplies until Hamas returns Israel's civilian hostages. Let's hope those hostages don't die of cholera before they get a chance to release them. |
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Post by wapentake on Oct 13, 2023 3:08:40 GMT
Do they need to cut the water and medical supplies to achieve that? Not at all, nor do I think this is why they've cut supplies. They've cut the water and medical supplies until Hamas returns Israel's civilian hostages. Then we are going down the road that because of Hamas Israel has carte blanche to do as they please and I’m second guessing other posters thoughts here but if that meant the death of every Palestinian in Gaza some would find that acceptable in order for Israel to achieve its aims. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2023 4:33:26 GMT
The Labour party IS pro-Hamas and openly considers the terrorist organisation as "their friends".
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 13, 2023 4:43:40 GMT
Apparently, the IDF will not confirm the beheading of children by Hamas... There are plenty of sources reporting the same. And no, I won't link them here. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 13, 2023 4:44:58 GMT
The BBC are claiming back their impartiality. LOL! Why is it that whenever someone points out that the BBC is left wing, it's only the lefties that claim it isn't?  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2023 5:24:16 GMT
Apparently, the IDF will not confirm the beheading of children by Hamas... There are plenty of sources reporting the same. And no, I won't link them here. "White House admits Biden has NOT seen 'confirmed pictures of Hamas beheading children' - despite publicly saying he had HOURS before Biden on Wednesday told of his fury at Hamas' actions: 'I never really thought I would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children' Biden told a White House gathering of Jewish leaders the Hamas attack was 'the deadliest day for Jews since the Holocaust,' and a campaign of 'pure cruelty' Hours later, the White House clarified that the president had not actually seen pictures of beheaded children, but had read reports". I would think that if the atrocities had happened as stated the President of The USA would already have seen the evidence. We have IDF refusing to investigate and you refusing to post links. It may be that it is true and Hamas has indeed committed these atrocities but when did we become a nation that relied on media rumours for our news. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2023 5:26:58 GMT
Not at all, nor do I think this is why they've cut supplies. They've cut the water and medical supplies until Hamas returns Israel's civilian hostages. Let's hope those hostages don't die of cholera before they get a chance to release them. Are you saying that it's ok for Palestinians to die of Cholera as long as the Israeli hostages do not? That is what your statement sounds like. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2023 5:28:36 GMT
The Labour party IS pro-Hamas and openly considers the terrorist organisation as "their friends". X link: You really are thick, Corbyn is not a Labour MP. Starmer has already declared that Israel have the right to commit war crimes against the Palestinian people. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2023 5:30:44 GMT
Once an Islamist has been exposed it has been advised not to engage with them anymore. They're unworthy of the legitimacy they seek in British politics.
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Post by morayloon on Oct 13, 2023 5:58:56 GMT
1. The Israelis are 'purposefully targeting civilians" of Gaza. How do you know where Hamas is hiding its 'military assets"? 2. Yes but the Israelis are not letting anyone leave. 3. If the Israelis wanted civilians to leave, they would have let them. Instead innocents are trapped. 4. I can see public opinion shifting if Israel carries on the way it is. So, in order to destroy the "military assets" innocent people are murdered 5. What are the Israelis doing if not targeting "civilians indiscriminately" As an aside, I wonder how long Al Jazeera will be allowed to broadcast when the Israelis enter Gaza It's been common knowledge and reported for over a decade that Hamas uses hospitals and civilian buildings to build their barracks/bunkers beneath. Feel free to google, there are dozens of sources. I agree public opinion is going to hurt for Israel in the coming weeks. But I don't think that's going to stop Israel rooting out Hamas. After seeing the scenes of what Hamas have done to Israeli citizens, I don't think Israel are going to be easily pacified. Hamas are a terorist organization and devoted to killing Jews, and wiping Israel off the map. For Israel, this is an 'us' or 'them' situation, and it is a situation Hamas started. Propaganda? An excuse for indiscriminate bombing and missile attacks? The Israelis are within their rights to go after Hamas but murdering civilians is not the way to go about it. What have the Palestinians had to put up with over the decades? Civilians murdered, land stolen, blockade of the port ... Whatever the aim of Hamas, the Israelis do not come out of the situation very well. Over the years surreptitious land grabs have left the Palestinians with small enclaves. Hamas was not around when the Israelis started encroaching on Palestinian land. So, in historical terms, how could they have started it? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 13, 2023 6:04:20 GMT
There are plenty of sources reporting the same. And no, I won't link them here. "White House admits Biden has NOT seen 'confirmed pictures of Hamas beheading children' - despite publicly saying he had HOURS before Biden on Wednesday told of his fury at Hamas' actions: 'I never really thought I would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children' Biden told a White House gathering of Jewish leaders the Hamas attack was 'the deadliest day for Jews since the Holocaust,' and a campaign of 'pure cruelty' Hours later, the White House clarified that the president had not actually seen pictures of beheaded children, but had read reports". I would think that if the atrocities had happened as stated the President of The USA would already have seen the evidence. We have IDF refusing to investigate and you refusing to post links. It may be that it is true and Hamas has indeed committed these atrocities but when did we become a nation that relied on media rumours for our news. As I said, there are plenty of sources. If you want to remain in denial that's up to you. As for Biden, he doesn't know what day it is. LOL! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2023 7:56:16 GMT
"White House admits Biden has NOT seen 'confirmed pictures of Hamas beheading children' - despite publicly saying he had HOURS before Biden on Wednesday told of his fury at Hamas' actions: 'I never really thought I would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children' Biden told a White House gathering of Jewish leaders the Hamas attack was 'the deadliest day for Jews since the Holocaust,' and a campaign of 'pure cruelty' Hours later, the White House clarified that the president had not actually seen pictures of beheaded children, but had read reports". I would think that if the atrocities had happened as stated the President of The USA would already have seen the evidence. We have IDF refusing to investigate and you refusing to post links. It may be that it is true and Hamas has indeed committed these atrocities but when did we become a nation that relied on media rumours for our news. As I said, there are plenty of sources. If you want to remain in denial that's up to you. As for Biden, he doesn't know what day it is. LOL! Link a source. I am not in denial, neither are you, you know what is happening but your ideology will not let you say it. |
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Post by Tinculin on Oct 13, 2023 8:30:57 GMT
The government of Gaza (Hamas), could always hand over all those responsible for the terrorist attack and return all the hostages it took at the weekend.
That would very likely lead to an immediate ceasefire.
Otherwise Israel at least for the near future is very likely to remain at war with them.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 13, 2023 8:56:47 GMT
As I said, there are plenty of sources. If you want to remain in denial that's up to you. As for Biden, he doesn't know what day it is. LOL! Link a source. I am not in denial, neither are you, you know what is happening but your ideology will not let you say it. What, that the anti-Semitic left are once again at least tacitly supporting terrorism? There, I said it. |
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