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Post by zanygame on Oct 12, 2023 15:09:29 GMT
This is a factor Labour have overlooked in their ambitious 'build on greenbelt', you will find a lot of greenbelt land is greenbelt because it's not near towns or cities, therefore will not have direct access to schools, GPs, dentists and so on, and I haven't heard Labour talking about building new schools, or funding for dentists and GP services, transport and so on. That's why the Tories are concentrating on brownfield, where the infrastructure and services are more built up, you'll find young families main tick boxes, are Good schools, dentists and GPs and buses, then the older generation whos children have fled the nest will want to move in to the greenbelt areas, the only reason Labour want to build on greenbelt is because the Tories don't want to. I think Labour have thought of that. And they were trying not to use green belt, but to use brown field sites that might be in the green belt. I have to say as someone born and raised in the countryside. There are plenty of areas of green belt that you would not want painted on your chocolate box. Plenty of places like this round here  |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 12, 2023 16:15:00 GMT
nobody has a right to live in any particular location - if the cost of housing is too expensive where you want to live either find another job paying more or choose somewhere cheaper. That's just crazy. There are areas in the UK desperate for workers but short of houses. There are areas with empty houses but no jobs. There are loads of ghost towns in Kansas you can live there for free, but no jobs So everyone has a right to live in Mayfair or Virginia Water? - be serious. Some places are always going to be more expensive than others and price people out of that local market - that is simply how life works. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 12, 2023 16:20:54 GMT
And much else besides, apparently.
Yes - best left there.
A gentle reminder that this is the mind zone, address the subject and no need for personal insults. Oh, don't be such a drama queen. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 12, 2023 16:23:29 GMT
nobody has a right to live in any particular location - if the cost of housing is too expensive where you want to live either find another job paying more or choose somewhere cheaper. That's just crazy. There are areas in the UK desperate for workers but short of houses. There are areas with empty houses but no jobs. There are loads of ghost towns in Kansas you can live there for free, but no jobs Then rather than build new houses perhaps we should look to encourage business to move to those areas. |
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Post by Orac on Oct 12, 2023 16:28:53 GMT
This is a factor Labour have overlooked in their ambitious 'build on greenbelt', you will find a lot of greenbelt land is greenbelt because it's not near towns or cities, therefore will not have direct access to schools, GPs, dentists and so on, and I haven't heard Labour talking about building new schools, or funding for dentists and GP services, transport and so on. That's why the Tories are concentrating on brownfield, where the infrastructure and services are more built up, you'll find young families main tick boxes, are Good schools, dentists and GPs and buses, then the older generation whos children have fled the nest will want to move in to the greenbelt areas, the only reason Labour want to build on greenbelt is because the Tories don't want to. I think Labour have thought of that. And they were trying not to use green belt, but to use brown field sites that might be in the green belt. I have to say as someone born and raised in the countryside. There are plenty of areas of green belt that you would not want painted on your chocolate box. Plenty of places like this round here This eyesore could be easily and cheaply replaced with a mosque |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 12, 2023 16:32:17 GMT
I think Labour have thought of that. And they were trying not to use green belt, but to use brown field sites that might be in the green belt. I have to say as someone born and raised in the countryside. There are plenty of areas of green belt that you would not want painted on your chocolate box. Plenty of places like this round here This eyesore could be easily and cheaply replaced with a mosque LOL..... don't worry it will be if Labour get in. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 12, 2023 20:55:56 GMT
That's just crazy. There are areas in the UK desperate for workers but short of houses. There are areas with empty houses but no jobs. There are loads of ghost towns in Kansas you can live there for free, but no jobs So everyone has a right to live in Mayfair or Virginia Water? - be serious. Some places are always going to be more expensive than others and price people out of that local market - that is simply how life works. Bit extreme don't yer think. You could live 7 miles from Mayfair in Tower Hamlets. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 12, 2023 20:58:08 GMT
I think Labour have thought of that. And they were trying not to use green belt, but to use brown field sites that might be in the green belt. I have to say as someone born and raised in the countryside. There are plenty of areas of green belt that you would not want painted on your chocolate box. Plenty of places like this round here This eyesore could be easily and cheaply replaced with a mosque Or a dozen pretty houses. Your mindless bigotry really scares me. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 12, 2023 20:59:26 GMT
This eyesore could be easily and cheaply replaced with a mosque LOL..... don't worry it will be if Labour get in. Oh no! Not a place where Muslims can worship their god. Can you think of anything worse. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 12, 2023 21:15:11 GMT
So everyone has a right to live in Mayfair or Virginia Water? - be serious. Some places are always going to be more expensive than others and price people out of that local market - that is simply how life works. Bit extreme don't yer think. You could live 7 miles from Mayfair in Tower Hamlets. I dont want to live in Tower Hamlets - I want to live in Mayfair as is my right - make it happen. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 12, 2023 21:20:33 GMT
Bit extreme don't yer think. You could live 7 miles from Mayfair in Tower Hamlets. I dont want to live in Tower Hamlets - I want to live in Mayfair as is my right - make it happen. No one ever said such a thing. I want to live in Buckingham palace because I work in the Premier inn. Sigh. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 13, 2023 6:45:45 GMT
Good article on how bonkers Labours housing plan is...
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Post by Orac on Oct 13, 2023 7:00:11 GMT
I dont want to live in Tower Hamlets - I want to live in Mayfair as is my right - make it happen. No one ever said such a thing. I want to live in Buckingham palace because I work in the Premier inn. Sigh. Isn't an important component of your broader position the supposed right of anyone to live anywhere they want and that we should subsidise such a right? I think Pac is trying to hint that you are starting from a premise that can't function in reality. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 13, 2023 7:25:30 GMT
No one ever said such a thing. I want to live in Buckingham palace because I work in the Premier inn. Sigh. Isn't an important component of your broader position the supposed right of anyone to live anywhere they want and that we should subsidise such a right? I think Pac is trying to hint that you are starting from a premise that can't function in reality. No that is not a component of my broader position. That's something made up be someone else. I think that is a stupid idea. I think we should build houses where there's work. I think we should build enough houses. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 13, 2023 7:49:19 GMT
Good article on how bonkers Labours housing plan is... Very strange article. Where he states the only successful new towns are ones where people needed them and there was work. "The two-dozen postwar new towns were rarely successes, except where they filled with home counties commuters." who'd have thought it. He sites Milton Keynes several times in a bad light, but Milton Keynes is a very successful and expanding town "as a five Milton Keynes sprawling across the south-east and an end to local democracy in planning". Not in my back yard. "The key to low-carbon living is adapting back-lots and bringing upper and empty floors into use. In every London borough there is a Milton Keynes lurking unused."If there is unused ground in London boroughs and the infrastructure can be made to work for more people then fine, build there. But putting more people into ever smaller spaces is nice if you already have a nice big space for yourself. Not quite so good for those you are herding in to overcrowded areas without adequate roads to supply them. Can I assume you've never been on the London underground? Never driven through London? |
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