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Post by Bentley on Oct 9, 2023 17:29:32 GMT
Left Support the myth of a patriarchy Support the lie of white privilege. Support racism against white people. Support white collective guilt . Support delusional sexual identities . Import US race issues . Support high immigration . That’s a start … Most societies are a patriarchy, although that is slowly changing. I think your point refers to Labour never having a female leader, correct me if I am wrong, the members of the Labour party vote for who they think will be the best leader, I voted for a woman in the last leader election as many others did but we accept democracy. Voting a leader just because they are female is lunacy as shown in the recent past. "White privilege is a concept that highlights the unfair societal advantages that white people have over non-white people. It is something that is pervasive throughout society and exists in all of the major systems and institutions that operate in society, as well as on an interpersonal level". People that deny white people have historically done better than black people in this country are delusional. I do not support the idea of 'employing people because they are a minority' but I can see the point. Do you feel guilty? This is just a mind game that people play on your to garner your support for their cause. Do you not believe that some people are 'different' to the norm? Prejudice is not an imported race issue, it happens here. The left supports immigration when it is needed, one of the things I always hear is 'the left want open borders', this is a lie. None of this is from your own head it is all regurgitated from the likes of The Mail, GBNews........ The UK isn’t a patriarchy. That is lie spread by lefties . There is no white privilege in the UK . That is a lie spread by lefties . I am taking about now . Employing people because they are a minority is racist . White people were being oppressed at the time black people were oppressed . Why should I feel guilty about people who are not oppressed and I am not oppressing them . It’s lefties identity politics . We should not import US race issues ..read the words on the page . The left supports immigration because of its politic theories . Your feeble attempt to refute my points reflect your feeble mind . |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 9, 2023 17:32:26 GMT
So the NHS is 'control'? The welfare state is 'control'... There have been plenty of fascist, communist states but the Tories have come the closest to it than any other... And yet both of the above were Tory ideas. Oh dear, See2 Mk2, you really don't have a clue, do you.  |
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Post by buccaneer on Oct 9, 2023 21:20:51 GMT
This is the problem with the Left. The term "white privilege" is academic theory and now en vogue and pervasive it is believed to be fact. People, who critique this theory given as fact are considered delusional.
Proving the point one poster made earlier that the Left love to intervene and micromanage the state via something as nebulous as academic theory, and call anyone who doesn't agree with this as "delusional".
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Post by see2 on Oct 9, 2023 21:45:33 GMT
I'm not keen on Unions but there is no doubt in my mind that many working people do need some organisation behind them to both defend their present position and to advance them in times of need. I can't stand Union Leaders who what to impose political change. But working people do need legal backup in the same way that many professional workers do. Mrs. Thatcher had unemployment at one time up 4million, that meant that thousands of small businesses and many not so small had crashed. Over 3million children living in relative poverty, and the majority of state school children in under financed schools. And that is just the tip of the iceberg of the things she got wrong. Please provide unequivocal evidence that many working people need some organisation behind them to defend their present position and to advance in time of need. It is an obvious fact that not all working people have the ability to ensure they are treated fairly and to quote the important bit that you missed, they do not have the legal qualifications to look after themselves. If you were not trying to be a smart arse, you wouldn't be making a fool of yourself by asking for the obvious. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 9, 2023 21:53:13 GMT
So the NHS is 'control'? The welfare state is 'control'... There have been plenty of fascist, communist states but the Tories have come the closest to it than any other... And yet both of the above were Tory ideas. Oh dear, See2 Mk2, you really don't have a clue, do you. The NHS is sensible fairness being a necessity for a more healthy society. Implemented by Labour and previously recommended by the Liberal party. IIRC its, ditto for the Welfare State. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 9, 2023 21:59:40 GMT
Please provide unequivocal evidence that many working people need some organisation behind them to defend their present position and to advance in time of need. It is an obvious fact that not all working people have the ability to ensure they are treated fairly and to quote the important bit that you missed, they do not have the legal qualifications to look after themselves. If you were not trying to be a smart arse, you wouldn't be making a fool of yourself by asking for the obvious. That is just your opinion not unequivocal evidence . I notice that you changed you claim from ‘ many’ to ‘ not all’. Are the numbers shrinking? |
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Post by ratcliff on Oct 9, 2023 22:02:40 GMT
Please provide unequivocal evidence that many working people need some organisation behind them to defend their present position and to advance in time of need. It is an obvious fact that not all working people have the ability to ensure they are treated fairly and to quote the important bit that you missed, they do not have the legal qualifications to look after themselves. If you were not trying to be a smart arse, you wouldn't be making a fool of yourself by asking for the obvious. So according to you only those with legal qualifications are capable of looking after themselves? There must be tens of millions without legal qualifications -so you believe they all need a carer Considering all the absolute claptrap you generally post on here this gem really takes the biscuit |
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Post by see2 on Oct 9, 2023 22:03:19 GMT
This is the problem with the Left. The term "white privilege" is academic theory and now en vogue and pervasive it is believed to be fact. People, who critique this theory given as fact are considered delusional. Proving the point one poster made earlier that the Left love to intervene and micromanage the state via something as nebulous as academic theory, and call anyone who doesn't agree with this as "delusional". I'm left of center, I don't consider normal rights to be a privilege so as far as I'm concerned the term white privilege is a nonsense. What was Thatcher doing with her 'Grant Maintained' system that denied proper funding for the majority of State Schools? What do you call the Tory changes a few years back that made education to be all about academic excellence? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2023 22:03:29 GMT
I cannot believe that a poster wrote this .... "Please provide unequivocal evidence that many working people need some organisation behind them to defend their present position and to advance in time of need"
I am a Labour Party supporter and a former member of the party, but I am not a huge fan of Trade Unions, often they are too militant and they have in the past asked for unreasonable demands.
However, it is a British workers RIGHT to both belong to a union, and to be represented by a trade union.
Trade Unions were born out a need to defend and protect people from unscruplious employers, at a time when people had few rights, or any path to challenge certain employers unreasonable demands, on such things as health and safety, low pay or long hours.
Sadly, there is still need today for Trade Unions to protect, and to defend workers, though I believe MOST employers are responsible and fair people, as are MOST members of trade unions.
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Post by see2 on Oct 9, 2023 22:07:47 GMT
It is an obvious fact that not all working people have the ability to ensure they are treated fairly and to quote the important bit that you missed, they do not have the legal qualifications to look after themselves. If you were not trying to be a smart arse, you wouldn't be making a fool of yourself by asking for the obvious. That is just your opinion not unequivocal evidence. Oh! so working people are all legally trained. Ha ha ha, I guess you just can't help yourself, but carry on I have long learnt to laugh at your childish nonsense. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 9, 2023 22:10:02 GMT
I cannot believe that a poster wrote this .... "Please provide unequivocal evidence that many working people need some organisation behind them to defend their present position and to advance in time of need" I am a Labour Party supporter and a former member of the party, but I am not a huge fan of Trade Unions, often they are too militant and they have in the past asked for unreasonable demands. However, it is a British workers RIGHT to both belong to a union, and to be represented by a trade union. Trade Unions were born out a need to defend and protect people from unscruplious employers, at a time when people had few rights, or any path to challenge certain employers unreasonable demands, on such things as health and safety, low pay or long hours. Sadly, there is still need today for Trade Unions to protect, and to defend workers, though I believe MOST employers are responsible and fair people, as are MOST members of trade unions. Then look at the posts . See2 insists on unequivocal evidence to others opinions yet fails to give unequivocal evidence for his . Put your soapbox away . |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 9, 2023 22:12:02 GMT
That is just your opinion not unequivocal evidence. Oh! so working people are all legally trained. Ha ha ha, I guess you just can't help yourself, but carry on I have long learnt to laugh at your childish nonsense. Please give unequivocal evidence that I claimed working people are legally trained . |
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Post by see2 on Oct 9, 2023 22:17:59 GMT
It is an obvious fact that not all working people have the ability to ensure they are treated fairly and to quote the important bit that you missed, they do not have the legal qualifications to look after themselves. If you were not trying to be a smart arse, you wouldn't be making a fool of yourself by asking for the obvious. So according to you only those with legal qualifications are capable of looking after themselves? There must be tens of millions without legal qualifications -so you believe they all need a carer Considering all the absolute claptrap you generally post on here this gem really takes the biscuit Your post is an excellent example of claptrap. No, most trade workers and labourers do not have Legal qualifications, so they cannot defend themselves in legal situations. No they don't need a carer they do need legally qualified people to defend them in legal situations. Perhaps you can now see just what an excellent example of claptrap your post is. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 9, 2023 22:20:17 GMT
I cannot believe that a poster wrote this .... "Please provide unequivocal evidence that many working people need some organisation behind them to defend their present position and to advance in time of need" I am a Labour Party supporter and a former member of the party, but I am not a huge fan of Trade Unions, often they are too militant and they have in the past asked for unreasonable demands. However, it is a British workers RIGHT to both belong to a union, and to be represented by a trade union. Trade Unions were born out a need to defend and protect people from unscruplious employers, at a time when people had few rights, or any path to challenge certain employers unreasonable demands, on such things as health and safety, low pay or long hours. Sadly, there is still need today for Trade Unions to protect, and to defend workers, though I believe MOST employers are responsible and fair people, as are MOST members of trade unions. Then look at the posts . See2 insists on unequivocal evidence to others opinions yet fails to give unequivocal evidence for his . Put your soapbox away . You are very good at deluding yourself, but that's good for another chuckle he he he. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 9, 2023 22:22:16 GMT
Oh! so working people are all legally trained. Ha ha ha, I guess you just can't help yourself, but carry on I have long learnt to laugh at your childish nonsense. Please give unequivocal evidence that I claimed working people are legally trained . Another context failure, you are so silly but obviously you just can't see it. |
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