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Post by zanygame on Oct 30, 2023 20:31:51 GMT
Red still struggles to differentiate between migrant and Illegal migrant.
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 30, 2023 20:54:33 GMT
Red still struggles to differentiates between migrant and Illegal migrant. Nonsense. Anyone who enters another country without permission is by definition illegal, which is why the EU erected 20ft high razor wire fences patrolled by armed guards and dogs on it's eastern border, while completely ignoring the channel border, I suppose the UK must be punished for Brexit. Closer to home, every single person who crosses the channel is illegal, a criminal. It's a complete scam. The Government fund 'charities' who tell illegals who are fleeing the EU state of France to destroy all documentation and coach them what to say in order to be granted asylum in the UK. The left wing Home Office then place 30 year old Mohammad in a school because he claims to be 15, and it would be racist not to believe him, right kids. In years to come after the shit has hit the fan, as it inevitably will, historians will look back on the early 21st century and ask, why the hell did politicians allow it to happen. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 30, 2023 21:00:17 GMT
You said the EU are responsible for the immigrant problem, they're not, membership of the ECHR is to blame. Don't blame Brussels. Did the ECHR open job centres in Africa? Did the ECHR welcome African illegals and announce to the world 'we can manage'? Did the ECHR announce that any African who crossed the Med and set foot on EU soil would not be returned? No of course not. But the EU did. The unelected bureaucrats who govern from behind closed doors in Brussels are the architects of the European migration disaster. Indeed.
But membership of the EU requires membership of the ECHR and so their separation is entirely theoretical and, in practice, the requirements of both should be read together.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 30, 2023 21:00:47 GMT
Red still struggles to differentiates between migrant and Illegal migrant. Do tell us: When was the Immigration Act 1971 repealed? |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 30, 2023 21:03:03 GMT
Red still struggles to differentiates between migrant and Illegal migrant. Nonsense. Anyone who enters another country without permission is by definition illegal, which is why the EU erected 20ft high razor wire fences patrolled by armed guards and dogs on it's eastern border, while completely ignoring the channel border, I suppose the UK must be punished for Brexit. Closer to home, every single person who crosses the channel is illegal, a criminal. It's a complete scam. The Government fund 'charities' who tell illegals who are fleeing the EU state of France to destroy all documentation and coach them what to say in order to be granted asylum in the UK. The left wing Home Office then place 30 year old Mohammad in a school because he claims to be 15, and it would be racist not to believe him, right kids. In years to come after the shit has hit the fan, as it inevitably will, historians will look back on the early 21st century and ask, why the hell did politicians allow it to happen. Yes Red. But the EU advertising in Africa was not for illegal migrants. |
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Post by dappy on Oct 30, 2023 21:05:05 GMT
You said the EU are responsible for the immigrant problem, they're not, membership of the ECHR is to blame. Don't blame Brussels. Did the ECHR open job centres in Africa? Did the ECHR welcome African illegals and announce to the world 'we can manage'? Did the ECHR announce that any African who crossed the Med and set foot on EU soil would not be returned? No of course not. But the EU did. The unelected bureaucrats who govern from behind closed doors in Brussels are the architects of the European migration disaster. The job Centre nonsense has been debunked on numerous occasions. Even if they did exist in the distant past it is hard to understand what matching African men to legal vacancies in Europe many years ago has to do with African Men seeking asylum in Europe in 2023. Perhaps Red could explain but I am sure he won’t. The EU did not say “Wir Schaffen Das”. The then chancellor of Germany did in respect of Germany. The crisis was overwhelmingly in respect of Syrians incidentally so hard to say what that has to do with Africans. Quite what a German Chancellor’s handling of Asians seeking asylum in Germany in 2015 has to do with Africans seeking asylum in the UK in 2023 is another mystery. Perhaps Red could explain his logic here but I’m sure he won’t. The last claim is as far as I know a new one - a rare beast for our friend Mr Rackham who usually recycles the same old claims over and over again even after they have been shown to be nonsense. So we wait with baited breath for evidence of an announcement that any African who crossed the Med would not be returned….. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 30, 2023 21:22:27 GMT
Did the ECHR open job centres in Africa? Did the ECHR welcome African illegals and announce to the world 'we can manage'? Did the ECHR announce that any African who crossed the Med and set foot on EU soil would not be returned? No of course not. But the EU did. The unelected bureaucrats who govern from behind closed doors in Brussels are the architects of the European migration disaster. Indeed.
But membership of the EU requires membership of the ECHR and so their separation is entirely theoretical and, in practice, the requirements of both should be read together.
Quite, well said. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 30, 2023 21:25:18 GMT
Did the ECHR open job centres in Africa? Did the ECHR welcome African illegals and announce to the world 'we can manage'? Did the ECHR announce that any African who crossed the Med and set foot on EU soil would not be returned? No of course not. But the EU did. The unelected bureaucrats who govern from behind closed doors in Brussels are the architects of the European migration disaster. The job Centre nonsense has been debunked on numerous occasions... Dappy, do you deny the EU opened job centres in Africa? A simple yes or no will suffice... |
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Post by dappy on Oct 30, 2023 21:37:47 GMT
Red we have done this repeatedly. Even Dan - hardly a “leftie” explained this to you. We are not going back round this well trodden nonsense yet again. Now explain what a “job centre” in Africa many many years ago has to do with illegal immigration or people entering Europe to claim asylum in 2023.
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 30, 2023 21:43:37 GMT
Yes Red. But the EU advertising in Africa was not for illegal migrants. For god sake ZG, when the EU opened job centres in Africa in 2008 and 2009, what sort of a message do you think that out sent to millions of Africans? What sort of a message do you think chief architect of the immigration disaster Frau Merkel sent out when she announced, 'Wir schaffen das' (We can manage) From 2006 onwards the EU invited Africa to Europe, then in 2016 when it became increasingly obvious that African migration was out of control, Merkel had the absolute fuckin front to apologise before retiring into an immigrant free life of luxury. The bitch should be arrested for crimes against Europe as should the anonymous unelected bureaucrats who promoted mass immigration without the consent of any electorates. |
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Post by dappy on Oct 30, 2023 21:56:20 GMT
I see Red hasn’t justified his seemingly made up quote , explained what “job centres” in 2008 which never had any jobs has to do with immigration in 2023 or what Merkel reaction to the Syrian crisis (Asians) in 2015 has to do with immigration from Africa in 2023…….,
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 30, 2023 22:03:42 GMT
Red we have done this repeatedly. Even Dan - hardly a “leftie” explained this to you. We are not going back round this well trodden nonsense yet again. Now explain what a “job centre” in Africa many many years ago has to do with illegal immigration or people entering Europe to claim asylum in 2023. Pillock. You're tying to give the impression it was oh so long ago, but the fact is you know perfectly well the EU opened job centres in Africa first in 2008, then in 2009 and from 2006 the EU spent €billions promoting the EU in Africa. Now the EU are spending €billions in an attempt to stop the cross Med invasion they encouraged. The European migration disaster that will change Europe, and the UK, forever is 100% the fault of the EU. It was designed and implemented from Brussels. This has been explained to you over and over again but you refuse to accept facts. EU job centres in Africa... link - link - link - link - link - link many more links available. Do I assume too much if I assume you have access to google? |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 30, 2023 22:05:18 GMT
Yes Red. But the EU advertising in Africa was not for illegal migrants. For god sake ZG, when the EU opened job centres in Africa in 2008 and 2009, what sort of a message do you think that out sent to millions of Africans? What sort of a message do you think chief architect of the immigration disaster Frau Merkel sent out when she announced, 'Wir schaffen das' (We can manage) From 2006 onwards the EU invited Africa to Europe, then in 2016 when it became increasingly obvious that African migration was out of control, Merkel had the absolute fuckin front to apologise before retiring into an immigrant free life of luxury. The bitch should be arrested for crimes against Europe as should the anonymous unelected bureaucrats who promoted mass immigration without the consent of any electorates. Can you hear yourself. Job centres in Africa persuaded Syrians fleeing Assad that Germany was the place to go. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 30, 2023 22:07:03 GMT
For god sake ZG, when the EU opened job centres in Africa in 2008 and 2009, what sort of a message do you think that out sent to millions of Africans? What sort of a message do you think chief architect of the immigration disaster Frau Merkel sent out when she announced, 'Wir schaffen das' (We can manage) From 2006 onwards the EU invited Africa to Europe, then in 2016 when it became increasingly obvious that African migration was out of control, Merkel had the absolute fuckin front to apologise before retiring into an immigrant free life of luxury. The bitch should be arrested for crimes against Europe as should the anonymous unelected bureaucrats who promoted mass immigration without the consent of any electorates. Can you hear yourself. Job centres in Africa persuaded Syrians fleeing Assad that Germany was the place to go. Well your moving the goalposts now, to be expected I suppose. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 30, 2023 22:10:00 GMT
Can you hear yourself. Job centres in Africa persuaded Syrians fleeing Assad that Germany was the place to go. Well your moving the goalposts now, to be expected I suppose. Au Contraire You link things so absurdly anything goes. |
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