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Post by Bentley on Dec 12, 2023 12:38:04 GMT
Given enough time , enough skill and enough imagination, 15 minute cities might be a viable alternative society. Trouble is that the architects of this utopia will be more interested in making it happen than make it work. It could become a nightmare world of crime and dysfunction, which is probably what John is alluding to. without 15 minute WORK it will indeed My father travelled on average 60,000 miles a year every year of his employment with IBM because Milford Haven’s oil terminal, BP Baglan Bay’s petrochemical plant, the University of Bristol, IBM Corporate HQ in the South West, then at Park St Bristol, Westinghouse Brake and Signal at Chippenham plus the CEGB Nuclear Reactors at Trawsfynnydd and Oldbury plus the Roysl Signals snd Radar Establishment at Malvern, and the Admiralty Surface Weapons and Underwater Weapons Establishments were regular clients. On more than one occasion as a freelancer when i was racking up a mere 45,000 on average a chap in naval or air force braided uniform would tell me he wished i’d brought dad along as they had a problem i wasn’t classified to talk about but he was. Strange days. I have not had a job within 15 minutes of my home since i pulled pints at the pub on the corner of the road at 16 and a half FIFTY years ago. It takes 30 to cycle from my parent’s home at that time to one of my research labs, 20 to the other. It would take me two days to cycle to our server racks in brum and three yo the ones in east london. And I'm timing those from when i actually rode to those places when a man a third my current age - one ride for charity the other a rag week stunt. Deal with the employment issue first snd the rest of the problem will vanish Indeed. Shops , health facilities, schools etc in easy reach are one thing . Work places are another , even factoring in home working .
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Post by sandypine on Dec 12, 2023 13:24:03 GMT
without 15 minute WORK it will indeed My father travelled on average 60,000 miles a year every year of his employment with IBM because Milford Haven’s oil terminal, BP Baglan Bay’s petrochemical plant, the University of Bristol, IBM Corporate HQ in the South West, then at Park St Bristol, Westinghouse Brake and Signal at Chippenham plus the CEGB Nuclear Reactors at Trawsfynnydd and Oldbury plus the Roysl Signals snd Radar Establishment at Malvern, and the Admiralty Surface Weapons and Underwater Weapons Establishments were regular clients. On more than one occasion as a freelancer when i was racking up a mere 45,000 on average a chap in naval or air force braided uniform would tell me he wished i’d brought dad along as they had a problem i wasn’t classified to talk about but he was. Strange days. I have not had a job within 15 minutes of my home since i pulled pints at the pub on the corner of the road at 16 and a half FIFTY years ago. It takes 30 to cycle from my parent’s home at that time to one of my research labs, 20 to the other. It would take me two days to cycle to our server racks in brum and three yo the ones in east london. And I'm timing those from when i actually rode to those places when a man a third my current age - one ride for charity the other a rag week stunt. Deal with the employment issue first snd the rest of the problem will vanish Indeed. Shops , health facilities, schools etc in easy reach are one thing . Work places are another , even factoring in home working . Carbon passports are coming and soon personal travel will be limited. Travel allowance for work will last a bit longer but that will face strict controls as well. Net Zero will have a serious effect on everyone and probably many people will say goodbye to their cars. The means to do all this will be tax in the first instance and then probably criminal law.
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Post by Bentley on Dec 12, 2023 13:43:34 GMT
Indeed. Shops , health facilities, schools etc in easy reach are one thing . Work places are another , even factoring in home working . Carbon passports are coming and soon personal travel will be limited. Travel allowance for work will last a bit longer but that will face strict controls as well. Net Zero will have a serious effect on everyone and probably many people will say goodbye to their cars. The means to do all this will be tax in the first instance and then probably criminal law. Quite possibly .
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 12, 2023 14:14:18 GMT
Indeed. Shops , health facilities, schools etc in easy reach are one thing . Work places are another , even factoring in home working . Carbon passports are coming and soon personal travel will be limited. Travel allowance for work will last a bit longer but that will face strict controls as well. Net Zero will have a serious effect on everyone and probably many people will say goodbye to their cars. The means to do all this will be tax in the first instance and then probably criminal law. The man who Saddo’s second in command bribed to write a report rubbishing his team’s report criticising ULEZ actually wrote in the guardian about a decade ago that while the ORIGINAL ulez was a start, it was actually not that effective and only banning cars altogether would work, but that was electoral suicide. All we need to do to screw these plans up is ensure it IS electoral suicide
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