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Post by Vinny on Oct 6, 2023 10:02:28 GMT
The Electoral Commission require a wording that the public will understand.
That is an honest wording that the public will understand.
High time the Tories called such a referendum whilst they are still in office.
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Post by morayloon on Oct 6, 2023 11:43:49 GMT
The Electoral Commission require a wording that the public will understand. That is an honest wording that the public will understand. High time the Tories called such a referendum whilst they are still in office. And you think the unelected (by Scots) Tories attempting to cancel out devolution will be popular? I reckon there will be a massive backlash against any such move. You cannot gloss over the fact that Independence support lies between 45& and 52%. That's people who want more than the current settlement. Add in those who are happy with Devolution and you have a major problem. The EC require a neutral question. One which blatantly favours one side would be thrown out!
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Post by Vinny on Oct 6, 2023 11:46:57 GMT
We are BRITISH. BRITAIN VOTED FOR THE TORIES.
Understand? They are OUR government.
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Post by morayloon on Oct 6, 2023 12:03:29 GMT
We are BRITISH. BRITAIN VOTED FOR THE TORIES. Understand? They are OUR government. Tell that to the Scots who didn't vote Tory. We don't want the Tories. You can keep them in your country!!!
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Post by Vinny on Oct 6, 2023 12:12:54 GMT
Well fellow Brit, the UK issues passports, negotiates trade agreements and can declare war. Scotland cannot do any of those things. Scotland isn't a country. The UK is. The UK voted Tory. Get over it.
Abolish devolution and any vestigial political notions of Scotland, England and Wales.
We are British.
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Post by morayloon on Oct 6, 2023 14:04:35 GMT
Well fellow Brit, the UK issues passports, negotiates trade agreements and can declare war. Scotland cannot do any of those things. Scotland isn't a country. The UK is. The UK voted Tory. Get over it. Abolish devolution and any vestigial political notions of Scotland, England and Wales. We are British. That is of no consequence. 62% of Scots think of themselves as Scottish only. It will be interesting to see how much white settler immigration has diluted that figure when last year's census details are published.
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Post by Vinny on Oct 6, 2023 14:40:05 GMT
Couldn't care less what they think fellow Brit, there are loonies in Cornwall who think Cornwall is a country.
Hold the referendum. Abolish devolution.
Let there be more money for frontline public services.
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Post by morayloon on Oct 6, 2023 17:33:31 GMT
Couldn't care less what they think fellow Brit, there are loonies in Cornwall who think Cornwall is a country. Hold the referendum. Abolish devolution. Let there be more money for frontline public services. You have yet to explain how this referendum is going to work It will never happen because Scots don't want it to. What about that 8% figure
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Post by morayloon on Oct 6, 2023 17:39:12 GMT
br]Let there be more money for frontline public services. [/quot⁰e] What do you think the vast majority of the Grant money goes on? Or, maybe you want the money to be spent in England?
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Post by Vinny on Oct 6, 2023 17:41:33 GMT
The voters who pay for it would be shown just what a waste of money devolution is, and what a political waste of time it is as well, then they would be invited to abolish devolution.
The country, the whole country, would get a vote. And devolution would end.
Simple.
And that would kill your flawed and economically illiterate dream.
Permanently.
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Post by morayloon on Oct 6, 2023 17:55:04 GMT
The voters who pay for it would be shown just what a waste of money devolution is, and what a political waste of time it is as well, then they would be invited to abolish devolution. The country, the whole country, would get a vote. And devolution would end. Simple. And that would kill your flawed and economically illiterate dream. Permanently. Try and include the English electorate in a Scottish issue and see what happens.
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Post by Vinny on Oct 6, 2023 18:19:47 GMT
It's a British issue, why shouldn't the people who pay for devolution get a vote? It's a matter for the whole country, not just the little devolved regions. Everyone from Dartford to Dundee pays towards devolution. Most of whom aren't represented by it.
Hold a vote with all taxpayers consulted.
Scrap it.
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Post by morayloon on Oct 6, 2023 18:46:06 GMT
It's a British issue, why shouldn't the people who pay for devolution get a vote? It's a matter for the whole country, not just the little devolved regions. Everyone from Dartford to Dundee pays towards devolution. Most of whom aren't represented by it. Hold a vote with all taxpayers consulted. Scrap it. It is a Scottish issue. It is for the Scots to decide. Scottish taxpayers pay for devolution.
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Post by Vinny on Oct 6, 2023 22:30:50 GMT
No it's a British taxpayer issue. It costs every taxpaying Brit most of whom were never asked.
Ask everyone. Abolish devolution.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 22:45:44 GMT
Try and include the English electorate in a Scottish issue and see what happens. You'll post angry anti-English comments online?
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