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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 3, 2022 22:29:43 GMT
Two left wing charities -'Bail for Immigration Detainees' and 'Detention Action' - have threatened the Home Secretary with legal action over the detention of illegals at Manston. Immigration minister Robert Jenrick has previously said the Government had received “initial contact for a judicial review” over Manston, but added that he could not comment on who was behind the challenge for legal reasons. Well now we know. www.countypress.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/23100143.suella-braverman-threatened-legal-action-migrant-centre-conditions/Both these so called charities who fight for the rights of foreign criminals receive government money, in my honest opinion they should be stripped of any charitable status and should certainly not receive government money to threaten and fight the government. Christ how stupid are we in this country? |
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Post by Handyman on Nov 4, 2022 12:26:57 GMT
Are you really that surprised Red in this day and age
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 4, 2022 13:01:13 GMT
I've got a good idea, why don't we all give up our homes and assets, bank accounts, cars the lot, to these illegal migrants, we'll all go live in tents or shelters, this will be the next suggestion from loony left charities.
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 4, 2022 13:04:09 GMT
Two left wing charities -'Bail for Immigration Detainees' and 'Detention Action' - have threatened the Home Secretary with legal action over the detention of illegals at Manston. Immigration minister Robert Jenrick has previously said the Government had received “initial contact for a judicial review” over Manston, but added that he could not comment on who was behind the challenge for legal reasons. Well now we know. www.countypress.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/23100143.suella-braverman-threatened-legal-action-migrant-centre-conditions/Both these so called charities who fight for the rights of foreign criminals receive government money, in my honest opinion they should be stripped of any charitable status and should certainly not receive government money to threaten and fight the government. Christ how stupid are we in this country? Don't worry, Red. Those lawyers can't work outside the framework of laws introduced by Parliament. There's no point electing people to Parliament if the laws they introduce aren't going to be upheld, is there? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 4, 2022 13:13:44 GMT
Two left wing charities -'Bail for Immigration Detainees' and 'Detention Action' - have threatened the Home Secretary with legal action over the detention of illegals at Manston. Immigration minister Robert Jenrick has previously said the Government had received “initial contact for a judicial review” over Manston, but added that he could not comment on who was behind the challenge for legal reasons. Well now we know. www.countypress.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/23100143.suella-braverman-threatened-legal-action-migrant-centre-conditions/Both these so called charities who fight for the rights of foreign criminals receive government money, in my honest opinion they should be stripped of any charitable status and should certainly not receive government money to threaten and fight the government. Christ how stupid are we in this country? Don't worry, Red. Those lawyers can't work outside the framework of laws introduced by Parliament. There's no point electing people to Parliament if the laws they introduce aren't going to be upheld, is there? Telling illegals to throw all documentation away and to say they have been trafficked is not working within the framework of the law. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 4, 2022 13:16:16 GMT
...Both these so called charities who fight for the rights of foreign criminals receive government money, in my honest opinion they should be stripped of any charitable status and should certainly not receive government money to threaten and fight the government. Christ how stupid are we in this country? It's certainly madness that public funds should be used to pay lawyers to thwart the immigration regulations, whether in the form of legal or subsidies to 'migrants rights' charities.
But there is another, almost invisible regiment of donors to such causes that rarely catch the attention of the legacy media. I'm referring to the 'feeder charities' which financially support the front-line outfits like 'Detention Action'. There are literally dozens of these, some of the more prominent include the Joseph Rowntree Trust, the Sigrid Rausing Trust, the Trust for London, the Bridge Trust and Soros-affiliates the Open Society Foundation and Philanthropy Unbound.
These don't rely on direct access to public funds nor do they seek donations from the public. They use instead their income from their massive endowments to support their pet causes, income which is tax-free as a result of their charitable status.
I've often wondered why there has never been a media investigation of the activities of these shadowy organisations.
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 4, 2022 13:46:50 GMT
Some of the 'charities' listed below have very dubious causes but all receive grants from the SLF (Strategic Legal Fund) via the ILPA (Immigration Law Practitioners Association) www.strategiclegalfund.org.uk/grants-awarded/The SLF gave various charities who support migrants/illegals/refugees/asylum seekers call them what you will, £89 million in the year 2020/21. This is big business. I often wonder whether people who in good faith donate to charities, realise where their donations are going. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 4, 2022 13:55:20 GMT
I hear that these "charities" are seeking damages for the detainees/"asylum seekers". One thing that occurs to me is that when you take legal action - even a class action - you have to provide verified identification. It's not possible to get paid compensation without doing this. So when/if they provide proof of their identity we can deport them, and bill them for their board and lodging while over here - which will naturally be taken out of their damages. And leave them with exactly SFA.  |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 4, 2022 14:04:53 GMT
I hear that these "charities" are seeking damages for the detainees/"asylum seekers". One thing that occurs to me is that when you take legal action - even a class action - you have to provide verified identification. It's not possible to get paid compensation without doing this. So when/if they provide proof of their identity we can deport them, and bill them for their board and lodging while over here - which will naturally be taken out of their damages. And leave them with exactly SFA. I wish, sadly I think we both know it's not going to happen. Apparently, illegals housed in overcrowded accommodation can, thanks to left wing lawyers, look forward to a £6,000 pay out. It's beyond insane. The world is watching this fiasco and wondering what the hell is going on in the UK. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 4, 2022 16:07:48 GMT
I hear that these "charities" are seeking damages for the detainees/"asylum seekers". One thing that occurs to me is that when you take legal action - even a class action - you have to provide verified identification. It's not possible to get paid compensation without doing this. So when/if they provide proof of their identity we can deport them, and bill them for their board and lodging while over here - which will naturally be taken out of their damages. And leave them with exactly SFA. I wish, sadly I think we both know it's not going to happen. Apparently, illegals housed in overcrowded accommodation can, thanks to left wing lawyers, look forward to a £6,000 pay out. It's beyond insane. The world is watching this fiasco and wondering what the hell is going on in the UK. Right, so it looks like Suella has broken the law and not carried out her statutory duties. But it's the charities fault for pointing this out and taking it to court? Do you really hate foreigners that much? 🤷 |
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 4, 2022 16:16:43 GMT
I wish, sadly I think we both know it's not going to happen. Apparently, illegals housed in overcrowded accommodation can, thanks to left wing lawyers, look forward to a £6,000 pay out. It's beyond insane. The world is watching this fiasco and wondering what the hell is going on in the UK. Right, so it looks like Suella has broken the law and not carried out her statutory duties. But it's the charities fault for pointing this out and taking it to court? Do you really hate foreigners that much? 🤷 The clue is in the word 'illegal' the only ones breaking the law are 'illegal migrants', law breakers have no legal rights for anything, when you go to court you have to have 'clean hands', you can't have clean hands if you are a law breaker, and illegal migrants are law breakers. END OF.
It's a statement of public policy enforced by courts. It's commonly understood that the maxim means that a claimant should be deprived of all court-based remedies, because of some dishonesty, misrepresentation, illegality or unfairness
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 4, 2022 16:25:14 GMT
Of course whether they are illegal migrants or not depends on whether they are claiming asylum. But you already know that.
Edit to add: if what you claim is correct, they would not win any action.
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 4, 2022 16:27:41 GMT
Of course whether they are illegal migrants or not depends on whether they are claiming asylum. But you already know that. They can 'legally' claim UK asylum from another country, that what would happen when and if they are sent to Rwanda, fast tracking the system 'illegally' via a dingy from France makes them illegal migrants, But you already know that. |
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Post by dappy on Nov 4, 2022 16:36:05 GMT
It is not possible (except in extraordinarily rare circumstances) to claim asylum in Britain from outside of Britain.
FFS if you are going to comment on asylum, at least take the trouble to understand what asylum is and what the rules are.
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 4, 2022 16:39:52 GMT
It is not possible (except in extraordinarily rare circumstances) to claim asylum in Britain from outside of Britain. FFS if you are going to comment on asylum, at least take the trouble to understand what asylum is and what the rules are. What are you on about, they have been told when they go to Rwanda their Asylum applications will be treated the same way as if they were making them in the UK.
They don't physically have to be in the UK to claim Asylum, there is a 'legal' process that EVERY one has to go through to apply for legal status in the UK, coming over illegally by a dingy from France doesn't give you the advantage over those who are applying via the legal route to claim legal status in the UK.
Why are you commenting on something that is clearly out of your depth of knowledge?
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