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Post by Pacifico on Oct 4, 2023 6:52:21 GMT
Not if your journey takes longer it doesn't. Engines are most efficient at around 55-60mph, so driving at a less efficient speed for longer is going to increase pollution. While it might seem intuitive that a resting or slow-moving car produces less pollution than a speeding one, the inverse is actually true.
One study has shown that emissions increase when a car travels below 45mph and above 65mph β so the so-called golden zone of fuel consumption and emissions reduction is between 45mph and 65mph.
Let's drive at 55-60 in built up areas then.π You are comparing an optimum to reality, less speed saves lives and decreases pollution. well we have already shown that to be wrong - so just move on.
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 4, 2023 9:15:18 GMT
Another ill thought out plan, apparently this 20 mph zone has caused bus services to be cancelled, they can't keep to timetables because they are held up in traffic, people are late for work/appointments, even getting a taxi is working out the same, because they are held up in traffic ...... yes well thought out you lefty brainless clueless money grabbers.
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Post by dappy on Oct 4, 2023 9:34:50 GMT
Is this real or your imagination Fairsociety. Could you show us a link.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2023 9:37:50 GMT
Some posters in here are Dinosaurs, no wonder they are Tory supporters, so out of touch with reality.
If you cannot accept that speed limitations are often a good idea in residential areas or around schools, then theres no hope.
The unbelievabale rubbish that is posted in here shows just exactly why the Tory Party is at war with itself
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 4, 2023 9:42:37 GMT
Is this real or your imagination Fairsociety. Could you show us a link. No probs....
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Post by dappy on Oct 4, 2023 9:55:52 GMT
You rather sensationalized your story.
Wales will be a good test for how what seems a good idea on paper works in practice.
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 4, 2023 10:04:28 GMT
You rather sensationalized your story. Wales will be a good test for how what seems a good idea on paper works in practice. So you admit it wasn't 'imaginary'?
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Post by dappy on Oct 4, 2023 10:34:49 GMT
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 4, 2023 10:38:12 GMT
Because they know that people won't.
It's the same with ULEZ - they don't want you to comply, they want you to get the fine.
Wakey, wakey, Wonky.
The fact that people wont is not a consideration. Compliance with the law is a staple of a civilised society. The fact that you say 'people wont' is ridiculous, most people will, those that don't deserve the fines. No Formulation of laws according to the will and consent of the majority is the mark of a civilised society. What we have now is tbe worst excesses of dictatorship.
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 4, 2023 10:44:58 GMT
How can it be grossly exaggerated when a bus service has to change its bus routes because of a 20 mph zone?
That will cost a lot of time and money, not to mention disruption to people's lives, I don't know why I bother sending factually links to the non compos mentis.
"Company says 20mph limit making buses late and they will change timetables"
Arriva Wales confirmed there will be changes to bus routes and frequencies as a result of the much-debated 20mph policy
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Post by dappy on Oct 4, 2023 10:57:55 GMT
I think you need to reread your link and compare what it is actually saying to the sensationalist narrative you have tried to imply.
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 4, 2023 11:00:40 GMT
I think you need to reread your link and compare what it is actually saying to the sensationalist narrative you have tried to imply. I've just 'quoted' directly from the link, you clown.
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Post by dappy on Oct 4, 2023 11:08:04 GMT
well once you strip out your usual tedious insults, you also claimed "buses are being cancelled" without any evidence and missed out the comment "its early days and we need more time to assess the data" . You went sensationalist, their response is much more measured. Lets see how it settles down.
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 4, 2023 11:15:37 GMT
well once you strip out your usual tedious insults, you also claimed "buses are being cancelled" without any evidence and missed out the comment "its early days and we need more time to assess the data" . You went sensationalist, their response is much more measured. Lets see how it settles down. Of course you never dish out insults ^^
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 4, 2023 11:35:20 GMT
Some posters in here are Dinosaurs, no wonder they are Tory supporters, so out of touch with reality... LOL!π€£ You're going to be so disappointed come the next GE.
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