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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2023 9:21:48 GMT
While many observant Jews still refrain from eating pork, more and more cultural - and even practicing Jews - Jews freely indulge. What was once an illicit meat consumed with shame is now no longer treif (Yiddish for non-kosher) for these Jews, particularly ones who congregate at farmers' markets instead of synagogues come Saturday morning.modernfarmer.com/2014/03/something-jews-eating-pork/
We tend to stay away from foods we don't like or suspect the provenance of — and we also try to be ethical and don'd buy battery eggs or discarded battery chicken carcasses. But I can't say that halal or kosher scares us off...
You're Jewish? Well there you go. Like I've always said if Muslims caused as much trouble as Jews, there would be no trouble. Lets face it, when was the last time we saw angry Jews demonstrating on the streets of Londonistan. Is that what you took from that? Pat is Jewish? Nah. |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 5, 2023 21:01:24 GMT
I'm going to eat a vegan for lunch tomorrow.
Bulls are vegans.
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 5, 2023 23:08:16 GMT
I'm going to eat a vegan for lunch tomorrow. Bulls are vegans. LOL. |
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Post by patman post on Oct 7, 2023 14:14:09 GMT
Lib Dems launch motion to force council to serve VEGAN food at all events as party doubles down on eco-approachLiberal Democrats in Camden Council attempted to put forward a motion demanding the council serve plant-based food at all council-run facilities and events. The motion called for the council to endorse the “Plant-Based Treaty”.
The treaty aims to “put food systems at the heart of combating the climate crisis, to halt the widespread degradation of critical ecosystems caused by animal agriculture, to promote a shift to more healthy, sustainable plant-based diets and to actively reverse damage done to planetary functions, ecosystem services and biodiversity.”www.gbnews.com/politics/lib-dem-camden-council-vegan-foodThis is why the LibDums will remain a lunatic fringe party. They aren't interested in bringing the public along with them, they don't want people to have a choice, all they're interested in is forcing people to accept unpopular policies. Yes in this particular instance the motion failed, but it clearly shows the direction of travel and the level of contempt LibDems have for the vast majority of people who do not share their extreme eco views. Reverting back to the opening post — this was supposedly happening in Camden... |
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Post by patman post on Oct 7, 2023 14:15:16 GMT
While many observant Jews still refrain from eating pork, more and more cultural - and even practicing Jews - Jews freely indulge. What was once an illicit meat consumed with shame is now no longer treif (Yiddish for non-kosher) for these Jews, particularly ones who congregate at farmers' markets instead of synagogues come Saturday morning.modernfarmer.com/2014/03/something-jews-eating-pork/
We tend to stay away from foods we don't like or suspect the provenance of — and we also try to be ethical and don'd buy battery eggs or discarded battery chicken carcasses. But I can't say that halal or kosher scares us off...
You're Jewish? Well there you go. Like I've always said if Muslims caused as much trouble as Jews, there would be no trouble. Lets face it, when was the last time we saw angry Jews demonstrating on the streets of Londonistan. And you accuse me of missing the point... |
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Post by patman post on Oct 7, 2023 14:21:47 GMT
I've no objection to there being a vegetarian option, but Veganism is an extremist food position which is a bit on the batty side. There should also be a nice meaty option for those who like it. We don't need to be told what to eat, we just want a choice at restaurants, etc. My most surprising enjoyable meal was when I was taken to an Indian restaurant off Tottenham Court Road. My then boss selected the dishes, with an occasional query as to did I like this or that, and it was only when we'd finished she told me the establishment was vegetarian... |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 8, 2023 10:23:08 GMT
I've no objection to there being a vegetarian option, but Veganism is an extremist food position which is a bit on the batty side. There should also be a nice meaty option for those who like it. We don't need to be told what to eat, we just want a choice at restaurants, etc. My most surprising enjoyable meal was when I was taken to an Indian restaurant off Tottenham Court Road. My then boss selected the dishes, with an occasional query as to did I like this or that, and it was only when we'd finished she told me the establishment was vegetarian... GB News had an Indian chef on the programme this morning who was displaying several curry dishes. My interest was aroused until he said they were all vegetarian dishes, and incredibly he also said 'no one eats meat anymore'. Needless to say I immediately fired off an email to GB News to reminded them that this is the sort of nanny state nonsense we expect from the BBC, not GB News. |
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Post by patman post on Oct 8, 2023 10:52:04 GMT
My most surprising enjoyable meal was when I was taken to an Indian restaurant off Tottenham Court Road. My then boss selected the dishes, with an occasional query as to did I like this or that, and it was only when we'd finished she told me the establishment was vegetarian... GB News had an Indian chef on the programme this morning who was displaying several curry dishes. My interest was aroused until he said they were all vegetarian dishes, and incredibly he also said 'no one eats meat anymore'. Needless to say I immediately fired off an email to GB News to reminded them that this is the sort of nanny state nonsense we expect from the BBC, not GB News. Just shows that both Ultra Right and Far Left can be guilty of stating as actual fact what they wish was… |
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 8, 2023 20:24:12 GMT
Lets not forget halal, most parents have no idea that their kids are eating halal meat at school and that's because Muslim parents would go mental if the 3% of Muslim children at that school ate non halal meat, in this non Islamic country. Are we certain that our meat, from wherever we buy it, is slaughtered in an any more less barbaric way (if that’s what you’re alluding to) than how you imagine halal or kosher meat to be…? been there, watched it. Well, ok, kosher which is the same and has gone on for centuries I was in a herefordshire abbattoir in ‘79 collecting bulls naughty bits myself I had ample opportunity to see it all The jewish slaughterman did not stun the animals Beyond that i saw little difference The requirements of the 1876 Cruelty to Animals act required me to end the life of any animal ‘in pain where the main object of the experiment was complete’ or ‘in severe pain, forthwith’ The recommended method of killing varied but for any animal in receipt of abdominal surgery the requirement was to slice the dorsal aorta and vena cava. Instant faint as a result of zero blood pressure in the cerebral arteries and sense free death soon after Done properly it seems to my biochemical persona correctly slicing the carotid arteries should cause instant senselessness and swift death. But that requires a level of skill on a par with Mengele’s castrations |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 8, 2023 23:52:40 GMT
Continuing with the slaughtering theme, briefly. I've never seen halal or kosher slaughter, but I've seen animals slaughtered and the bolt gun is not always instant. It usually is, but not always. The gun is placed on the crown, I'm sure you will be aware of the crown between a cow/bulls eyes, and the animal is shot. Nine times out of ten death is instant and the animal collapses. But occasionally things don't go to plan, if the animal is nervous it may be thrashing his head from side to side in the box, on these occasions it was difficult to get a clean shot. Sometimes an animal may take two or even three shots before they go down. As I've said before, the easiest way to turn someone into a vegetarian is to take them to an abattoir. I'm not a veggie, but people should know how meat gets from farm to table.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 9, 2023 15:58:37 GMT
The Fib Dims are even more fascist than Labour.
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 9, 2023 16:24:57 GMT
I'm going to eat a vegan for lunch tomorrow. Bulls are vegans. Pretty unlikely you are going to eat a bull. Almost certain it will be a cow or a bullock. |
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Post by patman post on Oct 9, 2023 18:08:55 GMT
Not much is wasted in these days of high costs — bull meat is likely to end up as mince or in tinned steak…
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 15, 2023 17:55:51 GMT
Continuing with the slaughtering theme, briefly. I've never seen halal or kosher slaughter, but I've seen animals slaughtered and the bolt gun is not always instant. It usually is, but not always. The gun is placed on the crown, I'm sure you will be aware of the crown between a cow/bulls eyes, and the animal is shot. Nine times out of ten death is instant and the animal collapses. But occasionally things don't go to plan, if the animal is nervous it may be thrashing his head from side to side in the box, on these occasions it was difficult to get a clean shot. Sometimes an animal may take two or even three shots before they go down. As I've said before, the easiest way to turn someone into a vegetarian is to take them to an abattoir. I'm not a veggie, but people should know how meat gets from farm to table. oh, i agree I have seen, and i still eat it. However, i do think if people had to do the deed themselves, much less meat would be eaten, and maybe that would be a good thing, maybe not |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 15, 2023 18:19:36 GMT
Continuing with the slaughtering theme, briefly. I've never seen halal or kosher slaughter, but I've seen animals slaughtered and the bolt gun is not always instant. It usually is, but not always. The gun is placed on the crown, I'm sure you will be aware of the crown between a cow/bulls eyes, and the animal is shot. Nine times out of ten death is instant and the animal collapses. But occasionally things don't go to plan, if the animal is nervous it may be thrashing his head from side to side in the box, on these occasions it was difficult to get a clean shot. Sometimes an animal may take two or even three shots before they go down. As I've said before, the easiest way to turn someone into a vegetarian is to take them to an abattoir. I'm not a veggie, but people should know how meat gets from farm to table. oh, i agree I have seen, and i still eat it. However, i do think if people had to do the deed themselves, much less meat would be eaten, and maybe that would be a good thing, maybe not Quite right JoG, hope you're well btw. In the past I've suggested to Mrs R, who is 100% carnivore, that she should visit an abattoir to see how that steak gets to her plate, naturally she won't even discuss it. I think if the vast majority of people were asked where their meat comes from they would say, a supermarket. |
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