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Post by Einhorn on Nov 4, 2022 11:17:32 GMT
To be fair, "darling", HAD the Seafish levy of around 4 pence per whole lobby been an EU tariff and HAD it been removed on leaving the EU, it would perhaps have been the most tangible benefit of leaving the EU so far identified  Yes, it's almost a shame it was a complete figment of Jonksy's imagination. |
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Post by Toreador on Nov 4, 2022 11:49:58 GMT
The EU's fishing fleet has been responsible for fish stock decline in the PACIFIC. The failure to ban super trawlers and the failure to limit the catch of EU fishing fleets has been one of the biggest environmental catastrophes the EU has caused so far. And in the Med, particularly N. Africa where it has deprived the native population of its fishing industry; it's doing the same off West Africa. |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 4, 2022 11:58:01 GMT
The EU's fishing fleet has been responsible for fish stock decline in the PACIFIC. The failure to ban super trawlers and the failure to limit the catch of EU fishing fleets has been one of the biggest environmental catastrophes the EU has caused so far. And in the Med, particularly N. Africa where it has deprived the native population of its fishing industry; it's doing the same off West Africa. Sal, aren't these vessels just ships from countries that happen to be in the EU rather than an 'EU fishing fleet', as claimed by Vinny? Couldn't they just as easily be called a 'Nato fishing fleet'? |
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Post by Vinny on Nov 4, 2022 12:28:58 GMT
As I understand it, the effect of EU fishing boats off the coast of Somalia had such a devastating effect on fish stocks there wasn't much left and many turned to piracy.
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 4, 2022 12:37:23 GMT
As I understand it, the effect of EU fishing boats off the coast of Somalia had such a devastating effect on fish stocks there wasn't much left and many turned to piracy. What is an 'EU' fishing boat? Does the EU have its own fishing fleet? Or is it just the case that most of the boats off the west Coast of Africa come from countries which happen to be in the EU, just as they mostly come from NATO countries, and countries which happen to be part of the International Scouting Association. Are they also an International Scouting Association fleet? |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 4, 2022 12:38:53 GMT
When the UK went to war in Iraq, was that an EU war because the UK was in the EU at the time?
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Post by jonksy on Nov 4, 2022 13:05:22 GMT
You don't use abuse??? Maybe re-read the thread. So you were referring to the seafish levy?? Really? What you claimed was an EU tariff imposed on UK fishermen landing fish in the UK amounting to 200% of value turns out to be the UK devised and legislated trade body levy of less than 1 pence per kilo designed to raise funds to support the fishing industry in the UK. The seafish levy you will have paid on the average lobster now and before we left the EU would amount to around 4p per lobster. Do you not feel a little silly? Far from it. The levy was foist upon fish sales at the source. Which was tied up with EUSSR mumbo jumbo. It could be recovered by those who purchased it at the source if they could be arsed to go through the usual rigmarole associated with the EUSSR which would have taken a bloody lifetime. This is why it was known as the EUSSR tariff. Now we can purchase at source at a far lower price now that levy is no longer required and by the price that the boat owner puts on his catch and not the auctioneers..Win Win yet again. And maybe you would like to explain how UK fishing waters became so dirty on Jan 1st 2021 when the EUSSR were still wanting to fish legaly or illegally in these contaminated waters? |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 4, 2022 13:14:20 GMT
As I understand it, the effect of EU fishing boats off the coast of Somalia had such a devastating effect on fish stocks there wasn't much left and many turned to piracy. What is an 'EU' fishing boat? Does the EU have its own fishing fleet? Or is it just the case that most of the boats off the west Coast of Africa come from countries which happen to be in the EU, just as they mostly come from NATO countries, and countries which happen to be part of the International Scouting Association. Are they also an International Scouting Association fleet? Maybe you should look how the Spanish tried to ilegaly fish in Canadian waters when Canada were paying their Cod fishermen to remain in port during the 7 year moratorium for Canadian Cod fishstocks to rejuvenate? Maybe it would be better if you came fully armed to the party rather than going off half cocked on a subject you know jack shit about.. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 4, 2022 13:16:22 GMT
To be fair, "darling", HAD the Seafish levy of around 4 pence per whole lobby been an EU tariff and HAD it been removed on leaving the EU, it would perhaps have been the most tangible benefit of leaving the EU so far identified Yes, it's almost a shame it was a complete figment of Jonksy's imagination. It is far from a figment of my imagination. |
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Post by Vinny on Nov 4, 2022 13:24:18 GMT
Darling is Einhorn, on this site it's possible to block him.  |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 4, 2022 13:27:31 GMT
Darling is Einhorn, on this site it's possible to block him. That explains a lot Vinny....Thanks for that. |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 4, 2022 13:27:50 GMT
Darling is Einhorn, on this site it's possible to block him. Be my guest, Vinny. It won't stop me pointing out your rubbish. There is no 'EU fleet'. Was the war in Iraq an EU war because the UK was involved? |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 4, 2022 13:31:12 GMT
Darling is Einhorn, on this site it's possible to block him. That explains a lot Vinny....Thanks for that. See what I said to Vinny above. You and Vinny have put forward two errors (I'm being generous calling them errors). You claimed that a levy introduced in 1982 by Parliament was an EU tariff, and Vinny has said that the EU is fishing off the West Coast of Africa (which you have just compounded by implying that the EU is in some way responsible for Spanish boats in Canadian waters). People are seeing through your lies. Bring on the next election!!! |
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Post by Handyman on Nov 4, 2022 13:42:44 GMT
Interesting insight into the moderation of this site, Pacifico. You deleted a long but factual list of issues with Brxit (I agree just a cut and paste and far too long) but were happy to leave this post which is just puerile embarrassing abuse. Is this to be the standard of posting this site desires?? Our Jonksy appears to be the stereotypical Brexiteer. There are no doubt some arguments in favour of Brexit and some against - people could fairly come down on either side - and some perfectly sensible informed people who did believe in brexit. Jonksy though is not one of those. Nonsensical "facts", followed by shouting and abuse, all accompanied no doubt by an ever more burgundy visage. Hard not to laugh. Read and weep. And I do not shout or use abuse BTW. I just get sick of dealing with kids. Those who are making the most noise in the fishing industry are the exporters who now find the petulant EUSSR are up to their usual tricks. I know first hand on this as one of my shooting buddies is Ian Perkes who is one of the prominent and large exporters........ Before Brexit that levy was paid at the quayside as it was a direct purchase before the fish made it to the proper outlet markets or distributors. Now all we do is pay the going rate which alters daily at the quayside as the fish are landed. Why do you think many of the restaurants, hotels and caterers all over the UK were paying agents to purchase form the quaysides?
Levy is also due from any UK registered fishing vessel owner, fish and shellfish farmer, grower or cultivator who lands product in the United Kingdom for subsequent sale direct to a foreign customer.
I have been watching the programme since it began and know that you are 100% correct |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 4, 2022 13:43:23 GMT
That explains a lot Vinny....Thanks for that. See what I said to Vinny above. You and Vinny have put forward two errors (I'm being generous calling them errors). You claimed that a levy introduced in 1982 by Parliament was an EU tariff, and Vinny has said that the EU is fishing off the West Coast of Africa (which you have just compounded by implying that the EU is in some way responsible for Spanish boats in Canadian waters). People are seeing through your lies. Bring on the next election!!! Did the EUSSR stop the Sapnish? Did they fuck and I bet if Canada hadn't of stood their gound and drove them off with their navy other EUSSR member states would have tried their luck. It was brilliant down here you could go to the fishmarkets and pick up your free canadian flags and Brixham. Kingswhear and Dartmouth where I live was awash with the red and white maple leaves in respect for the Candians. |
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