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Post by sheepy on Sept 22, 2023 9:51:55 GMT
The intelligence and IQ of hard line Brexieers, right wing populists, and Daily Mail readers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THEY actually believe that it is not a good idea to align some rules and regulations with our largest trading partner in order to make exporting and doing business easier, simpler and quicker. THEY believe that helping British business, producers and manufacturers would be a "betrayal", but betrayal to who. ? THEY believe that harmonising British regulations with EU regulations, where it helps British companies would be abandoning Brexit, how do they work that out. ? THEY have lost the plot and totally lost the argument, and all Keir Starmer has to do is explain to the British public, its a win, win, win solution. Well best he cracks on then, as he is such a genius and see how far that gets him, with others taking up much larger markets opening up.With the Chinese only saying themselves today they are willing to open up their own markets. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 22, 2023 9:56:30 GMT
The intelligence and IQ of hard line Brexieers, right wing populists, and Daily Mail readers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THEY actually believe that it is not a good idea to align some rules and regulations with our largest trading partner in order to make exporting and doing business easier, simpler and quicker. THEY believe that helping British business, producers and manufacturers would be a "betrayal", but betrayal to who. ? THEY believe that harmonising British regulations with EU regulations, where it helps British companies would be abandoning Brexit, how do they work that out. ? THEY have lost the plot and totally lost the argument, and all Keir Starmer has to do is explain to the British public, its a win, win, win solution. Don't you know the EU motto ...Ask Not What Our Country Can Do For You, It's What Your Country Can Do For Us.
This is a serious question sid, do you honestly with hand on heart think the EU wants the UK to be 'associate members' to benefit the UK?
hahaha as if, the EU want the UK to be associate members so WE can benefit THEM, nothing more nothing less, and if you believe otherwise you're as dim as Starmer.
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Post by see2 on Sept 22, 2023 10:04:54 GMT
Only a true dimwit would compare a once in a lifetime direct democratic vote to a GE. Brexit is a long term commitment that could take many years to work out, which is obviously a lot to ask from some BLM Marxists in the Labour party. The comparison is questionable. The referendum was undermined by lies, insinuated lies and naivety. That referendum is an embarrassment that is now part of our history forever. Care to name one or two of these "BLM Marxists in the Labour party" ? I would be interested in knowing who they are. |
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Post by see2 on Sept 22, 2023 10:08:35 GMT
The intelligence and IQ of hard line Brexieers, right wing populists, and Daily Mail readers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THEY actually believe that it is not a good idea to align some rules and regulations with our largest trading partner in order to make exporting and doing business easier, simpler and quicker. THEY believe that helping British business, producers and manufacturers would be a "betrayal", but betrayal to who. ? THEY believe that harmonising British regulations with EU regulations, where it helps British companies would be abandoning Brexit, how do they work that out. ? THEY have lost the plot and totally lost the argument, and all Keir Starmer has to do is explain to the British public, its a win, win, win solution. Don't you know the EU motto ...Ask Not What Our Country Can Do For You, It's What Your Country Can Do For Us.
This is a serious question sid, do you honestly with hand on heart think the EU wants the UK to be 'associate members' to benefit the UK?
hahaha as if, the EU want the UK to be associate members so WE can benefit THEM, nothing more nothing less, and if you believe otherwise you're as dim as Starmer.
In the minds of many the position of "associate member" would be mutually beneficial for both. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 22, 2023 10:09:45 GMT
The intelligence and IQ of hard line Brexieers, right wing populists, and Daily Mail readers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THEY actually believe that it is not a good idea to align some rules and regulations with our largest trading partner in order to make exporting and doing business easier, simpler and quicker. THEY believe that helping British business, producers and manufacturers would be a "betrayal", but betrayal to who. ? THEY believe that harmonising British regulations with EU regulations, where it helps British companies would be abandoning Brexit, how do they work that out. ? THEY have lost the plot and totally lost the argument, and all Keir Starmer has to do is explain to the British public, its a win, win, win solution. What has the fucking EUSSR ever done for the UK apart from taking billions from us to piss against the wall? |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 22, 2023 10:11:37 GMT
Don't you know the EU motto ...Ask Not What Our Country Can Do For You, It's What Your Country Can Do For Us.
This is a serious question sid, do you honestly with hand on heart think the EU wants the UK to be 'associate members' to benefit the UK?
hahaha as if, the EU want the UK to be associate members so WE can benefit THEM, nothing more nothing less, and if you believe otherwise you're as dim as Starmer.
In the minds of many the position of "associate member" would be mutually beneficial for both. Total bollocks. Its all one sided with the EUSSR. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 22, 2023 10:17:23 GMT
The paranoids in the press are out. Queue Daily Mail : Whatever happened to my lovely Brexit? Beg your pardon Andrew,I think you’ll find that’s cue  Now what is happening here is a lot of remain voters pining for a return to mummy Brussels teat unable to either comprehend the concept of democracy or that this country quite happily existed for hundreds of years as an entity compared to a few decades in what started as a common market and is slowly morphing in to a bureaucratic political monolith where democracy is as real as a theatre backdrop. Now if you want a queue look no further than those on this thread queuing up to engage in defending Mr Punch as he batters down brexit by lies,u turns saying one thing whilst he definitely means another “that’s the way to do it” …..not. Ugh, you are of course correct. I need to blame too much coffee... |
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 22, 2023 10:19:30 GMT
The intelligence and IQ of hard line Brexieers, right wing populists, and Daily Mail readers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THEY actually believe that it is not a good idea to align some rules and regulations with our largest trading partner in order to make exporting and doing business easier, simpler and quicker. THEY believe that helping British business, producers and manufacturers would be a "betrayal", but betrayal to who. ? THEY believe that harmonising British regulations with EU regulations, where it helps British companies would be abandoning Brexit, how do they work that out. ? THEY have lost the plot and totally lost the argument, and all Keir Starmer has to do is explain to the British public, its a win, win, win solution. What has the fucking EUSSR ever done for the UK apart from taking billions from us to piss against the wall? Our membership with the EU has set the UK Back at least 10 - 15 years, because we've been tied to their apron strings, and had to 'Obey' their orders, it stopped the UK from thriving in their own right.
We would be well ahead of the game now if we weren't shackled to them, our economy, our manufacturing, our trade, our financial institutes would be relishing, and to think this fuckin plank Starmer wants to stagnate the UK again by hooking us back up with the EU is beyond belief.
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Post by see2 on Sept 22, 2023 10:19:43 GMT
It's blindingly obvious that Starmer would change our current agreement into BRINO by agreeing to dynamic alignment with the EU - and everyone who votes for Labour should realise that. Starmer was always demanding a second referendum and he has never understood what the EU is. He simply doesn't understand politics - he's a dumbo lawyer. My own opinion is that our politicians should not be allowed to give away our sovereignty - especially to unelected dictatorships like the EU Commission. Sovereignty is our birthright and "here today gone tomorrow" politicians should not be allowed to discard it. In fact we should resurrect the law of treason to prevent them from doing that. Your post did give me a chuckle, so thanks for that. The transient 'here today and gone tomorrow' public opinion, is not a good basis for making major decisions. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 22, 2023 10:24:18 GMT
It's blindingly obvious that Starmer would change our current agreement into BRINO by agreeing to dynamic alignment with the EU - and everyone who votes for Labour should realise that. Starmer was always demanding a second referendum and he has never understood what the EU is. He simply doesn't understand politics - he's a dumbo lawyer. My own opinion is that our politicians should not be allowed to give away our sovereignty - especially to unelected dictatorships like the EU Commission. Sovereignty is our birthright and "here today gone tomorrow" politicians should not be allowed to discard it. In fact we should resurrect the law of treason to prevent them from doing that. Your post did give me a chuckle, so thanks for that. The transient 'here today and gone tomorrow' public opinion, is not a good basis for making major decisions. Well it doesn't stop starmer. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2023 10:27:17 GMT
The intelligence and IQ of hard line Brexieers, right wing populists, and Daily Mail readers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THEY actually believe that it is not a good idea to align some rules and regulations with our largest trading partner in order to make exporting and doing business easier, simpler and quicker. THEY believe that helping British business, producers and manufacturers would be a "betrayal", but betrayal to who. ? THEY believe that harmonising British regulations with EU regulations, where it helps British companies would be abandoning Brexit, how do they work that out. ? THEY have lost the plot and totally lost the argument, and all Keir Starmer has to do is explain to the British public, its a win, win, win solution. Don't you know the EU motto ...Ask Not What Our Country Can Do For You, It's What Your Country Can Do For Us.
This is a serious question sid, do you honestly with hand on heart think the EU wants the UK to be 'associate members' to benefit the UK?
hahaha as if, the EU want the UK to be associate members so WE can benefit THEM, nothing more nothing less, and if you believe otherwise you're as dim as Starmer.
If harminizing regulation will help British business, and it will also help EU businesses, it is what one would call "Reciprocal". But it would do something else too, it would make all those things which we import from the EU cheaper, it would ease the presure on inflation and the cost of living. Most of the EU products in our supermarkets such as Olive Oil or Fruit etc is stuff we cannot produce in this country, whilst many other products such as Tomato Sauces or seasonal vegetables, we cannot produce in quantity to meet demand. One of the key reasons for high inflation has been the difficulties and delays in importing from the EU, and that is a fact, it has contributed to the cost of living crisis. By pushing back on this very good idea from Starmer, all you are doing is advocating making life more difficult, and more costly. The Brexiteers would cut off their noses to spite their faces |
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 22, 2023 10:34:39 GMT
Don't you know the EU motto ...Ask Not What Our Country Can Do For You, It's What Your Country Can Do For Us.
This is a serious question sid, do you honestly with hand on heart think the EU wants the UK to be 'associate members' to benefit the UK?
hahaha as if, the EU want the UK to be associate members so WE can benefit THEM, nothing more nothing less, and if you believe otherwise you're as dim as Starmer.
If harminizing regulation will help British business, and it will also help EU businesses, it is what one would call "Reciprocal". But it would do something else too, it would make all those things which we import from the EU cheaper, it would ease the presure on inflation and the cost of living. Most of the EU products in our supermarkets such as Olive Oil or Fruit etc is stuff we cannot produce in this country, whilst many other products such as Tomato Sauces or seasonal vegetables, we cannot produce in quantity to meet demand. One of the key reasons for high inflation has been the difficulties and delays in importing from the EU, and that is a fact, it has contributed to the cost of living crisis. By pushing back on this very good idea from Starmer, all you are doing is advocating making life more difficult, and more costly.The Brexiteers would cut off their noses to spite their faces The problem you have with Starmer that any deal struck would always be on the terms of the EU, TM was the same, she let the EU walk all over her.
If and only if any such 'associate membership' deals were struck, this time it has to be agreeable to BOTH sides, we don't want one sided deals, we spent 46 years obeying the EU elite, and now we are taking back control, so yes if there is anything that will benefit the UK fine by me, but I bet any deal struck with Starmer will be taking more of our freedoms from us.
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Post by see2 on Sept 22, 2023 10:48:25 GMT
Your post did give me a chuckle, so thanks for that. The transient 'here today and gone tomorrow' public opinion, is not a good basis for making major decisions. Well it doesn't stop starmer. Just one more schoolyard reply ^^^ from yourself. Care to mention just how old you are? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2023 11:05:14 GMT
Idiots ^ they should be forced into the dinghies at Dover and fucked off to their wonderful EU. They'd send them back after 90 days now though. Cheers Brexit. I'd give them an Irish passport. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Sept 22, 2023 11:33:07 GMT
The intelligence and IQ of hard line Brexieers, right wing populists, and Daily Mail readers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THEY actually believe that it is not a good idea to align some rules and regulations with our largest trading partner in order to make exporting and doing business easier, simpler and quicker. THEY believe that helping British business, producers and manufacturers would be a "betrayal", but betrayal to who. ? THEY believe that harmonising British regulations with EU regulations, where it helps British companies would be abandoning Brexit, how do they work that out. ? THEY have lost the plot and totally lost the argument, and all Keir Starmer has to do is explain to the British public, its a win, win, win solution. Neither you nor Keir Starmer understand how international trade works now. We've been subjugated to the EU for so long that you think that, in order to trade with a country (or a trading bloc), we have to agree to all their rules. We don't. We have to agree rules only on those products that we trade. The EU wants us to agree to all their rules and that's why the EU is finding it very difficult to make deals with new countries/trading blocs. And countries do NOT normally pay for free trade agreements. One obvious example of a gain that we've made from leaving the EU is that we make our own agricultural policy. For too long we've had to follow rules that are nonsensical and have damaged our environment. Farmers have been chopping down hedges and trees to maximise their EU subsidies, but this has had a detrimental effect on our environment. It's caused flooding in various areas and has led to a loss of habitat for insects and birds. Now that we're free from the EU the countryside is recovering. There are many more advantages from not adopting "one size fits all" EU rules/laws. You just don't get it. If the EU comes up with any good idea we can adopt it -but a lot of what they imposed on us is nonsense. Wake up. |
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