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Post by wapentake on Sept 22, 2023 5:35:27 GMT
The paranoids in the press are out. Queue Daily Mail : Whatever happened to my lovely Brexit? Beg your pardon Andrew,I think you’ll find that’s cue  Now what is happening here is a lot of remain voters pining for a return to mummy Brussels teat unable to either comprehend the concept of democracy or that this country quite happily existed for hundreds of years as an entity compared to a few decades in what started as a common market and is slowly morphing in to a bureaucratic political monolith where democracy is as real as a theatre backdrop. Now if you want a queue look no further than those on this thread queuing up to engage in defending Mr Punch as he batters down brexit by lies,u turns saying one thing whilst he definitely means another “that’s the way to do it” …..not. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2023 5:53:29 GMT
Brexit needs reversing, all but the most stupid realise it is a total mess. You are a deluded fool. Essentially what you're saying is, democracy should be cancelled. Read the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. Cancel culture is how the Nazis started 100 years ago. Democracy only last a few years. Are you seriously saying that because a very small minority of people who voted for Brexit 8 years ago we should continue with it even though it is plain to see the damage it is causing which is about to get much worse next year. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 22, 2023 5:58:52 GMT
You are a deluded fool. Essentially what you're saying is, democracy should be cancelled. Read the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. Cancel culture is how the Nazis started 100 years ago. Democracy only last a few years. Are you seriously saying that because a very small minority of people who voted for Brexit 8 years ago we should continue with it even though it is plain to see the damage it is causing which is about to get much worse next year. "Democracy only lasts a few years" You are the epitome of the 1920's Nazi, if only you could see it. For god sake rather than rubbishing history, try reading it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2023 6:04:07 GMT
Democracy only last a few years. Are you seriously saying that because a very small minority of people who voted for Brexit 8 years ago we should continue with it even though it is plain to see the damage it is causing which is about to get much worse next year. "Democracy only lasts a few years" You are the epitome of the 1920's Nazi, if only you could see it. For god sake rather than rubbishing history, try reading it. I totally agree. Yesterday he was for the many. Today he's for the Westminster political classes. They will lie about everything.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2023 6:06:07 GMT
Democracy only last a few years. Are you seriously saying that because a very small minority of people who voted for Brexit 8 years ago we should continue with it even though it is plain to see the damage it is causing which is about to get much worse next year. "Democracy only lasts a few years" You are the epitome of the 1920's Nazi, if only you could see it. For god sake rather than rubbishing history, try reading it. We change our government every 5 years and sometimes less but never more except in extreme circumstances. Why is it 'democratically' acceptable to vote for a government every 5 years and not 'democratically' acceptable to vote on serious issues every five years or less? By your reasoning Johnson should still be PM and there should be no process for 'ditching' a bad PM. In you opinion, how long should a democratic decision last before it is revisited? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2023 6:10:37 GMT
Only a true dimwit would compare a once in a lifetime direct democratic vote to a GE. Brexit is a long term commitment that could take many years to work out, which is obviously a lot to ask from some BLM Marxists in the Labour party.
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Post by jonksy on Sept 22, 2023 6:10:51 GMT
Brexit needs reversing, all but the most stupid realise it is a total mess. Total bollocks... |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 22, 2023 6:12:24 GMT
You are a deluded fool. Essentially what you're saying is, democracy should be cancelled. Read the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. Cancel culture is how the Nazis started 100 years ago. Democracy only last a few years. Are you seriously saying that because a very small minority of people who voted for Brexit 8 years ago we should continue with it even though it is plain to see the damage it is causing which is about to get much worse next year. Total bollocks |
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 22, 2023 6:21:21 GMT
"Democracy only lasts a few years" You are the epitome of the 1920's Nazi, if only you could see it. For god sake rather than rubbishing history, try reading it. We change our government every 5 years and sometimes less but never more except in extreme circumstances. Why is it 'democratically' acceptable to vote for a government every 5 years and not 'democratically' acceptable to vote on serious issues every five years or less? By your reasoning Johnson should still be PM and there should be no process for 'ditching' a bad PM. In you opinion, how long should a democratic decision last before it is revisited? Oh man, for goodness sake it's called 'democracy'. Democracy is when a government is voted for by the majority. Lefties tend to criticise it because the majority tend to be more sensible than to vote for left wing parties which is why Starmer wants to extend the vote to children. In 1992 John (The Bastard) Major handed us to the EU without a referendum, how long in your opinion should that decision have lasted? |
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Post by steppenwolf on Sept 22, 2023 6:36:48 GMT
It's blindingly obvious that Starmer would change our current agreement into BRINO by agreeing to dynamic alignment with the EU - and everyone who votes for Labour should realise that. Starmer was always demanding a second referendum and he has never understood what the EU is. He simply doesn't understand politics - he's a dumbo lawyer.
My own opinion is that our politicians should not be allowed to give away our sovereignty - especially to unelected dictatorships like the EU Commission. Sovereignty is our birthright and "here today gone tomorrow" politicians should not be allowed to discard it. In fact we should resurrect the law of treason to prevent them from doing that.
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Post by wapentake on Sept 22, 2023 6:38:24 GMT
You are a deluded fool. Essentially what you're saying is, democracy should be cancelled. Read the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. Cancel culture is how the Nazis started 100 years ago. Democracy only last a few years. Are you seriously saying that because a very small minority of people who voted for Brexit 8 years ago we should continue with it even though it is plain to see the damage it is causing which is about to get much worse next year. Democracy only lasts a few years? What would George Orwell make of you,Starmer (the Blair puppet) the civil service and all those who pay lip service to democracy yep that’s it chant “eu good brexit bad” You familiar with animal farm,Starmer would make it as Napoleons understudy (Blair) And you and the rest of remain would be a great stand in for Boxer |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 22, 2023 6:43:44 GMT
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 22, 2023 9:12:46 GMT
Starmer is a embarrassment, watching him with Macron made me cringe, he's all but licking his boots, Starmer is totally smitten with the EU, and he's not going to rest until he hooks us back up with them, I'd call him a useful idiot, but it would be a insult to idiots.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2023 9:42:34 GMT
The intelligence and IQ of hard line Brexieers, right wing populists, and Daily Mail readers
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THEY actually believe that it is not a good idea to align some rules and regulations with our largest trading partner in order to make exporting and doing business easier, simpler and quicker.
THEY believe that helping British business, producers and manufacturers would be a "betrayal", but betrayal to who. ?
THEY believe that harmonising British regulations with EU regulations, where it helps British companies would be abandoning Brexit, how do they work that out. ?
THEY have lost the plot and totally lost the argument, and all Keir Starmer has to do is explain to the British public, its a win, win, win solution.
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Post by see2 on Sept 22, 2023 9:51:01 GMT
My God the Tory apologists really are desparate Making things up - telling lies - attempting to say that when Starmes states NO GOING BACK ( a hundred times ), he really means that we are. Give it a rest FFS No desperation here SF. The only desperate ones are those who are still in mourning after losing their beloved EUSSR. As such a thing never happened you are spouting nonsense as usual. |
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