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Post by Pacifico on Sept 27, 2023 11:46:54 GMT
Yes - and I already covered that. Everyone already has what insulation is financially viable to fit. It's no good saying that we can insulate solid stone walls if the costs are out of reach to the average person - you have to live in reality. "Financially viable"? "The Great British Insulation Scheme is a new government scheme to help people insulate their homes, make them more energy efficient and save money on their energy bills. The scheme will launch this summer and run until March 2026". Obviously some people disagree with you. Well I just pumped in my address and apparently I'm not eligible.  But this simply proves my original point - the move to Net Zero is going to cost Billions every year, it doesn't matter if the individual pays or the government, the money is going to come from somewhere. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2023 6:42:01 GMT
"Financially viable"? "The Great British Insulation Scheme is a new government scheme to help people insulate their homes, make them more energy efficient and save money on their energy bills. The scheme will launch this summer and run until March 2026". Obviously some people disagree with you. Well I just pumped in my address and apparently I'm not eligible. But this simply proves my original point - the move to Net Zero is going to cost Billions every year, it doesn't matter if the individual pays or the government, the money is going to come from somewhere. Of course the move to net zero is going to cost billions each year until it becomes embedded but is that really a reason not to do it? If that sort of attitude was applied throughout history we would all still be living in caves, |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 28, 2023 6:59:02 GMT
Well I just pumped in my address and apparently I'm not eligible. But this simply proves my original point - the move to Net Zero is going to cost Billions every year, it doesn't matter if the individual pays or the government, the money is going to come from somewhere. Of course the move to net zero is going to cost billions each year until it becomes embedded but is that really a reason not to do it? If that sort of attitude was applied throughout history we would all still be living in caves, Well its a cost benefit analysis - will spending £50 Billion a year do anything to stop climate change?. There is no evidence it will. The same questions are being asked (and failing to get an answer) in the US. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2023 7:54:06 GMT
Of course the move to net zero is going to cost billions each year until it becomes embedded but is that really a reason not to do it? If that sort of attitude was applied throughout history we would all still be living in caves, Well its a cost benefit analysis - will spending £50 Billion a year do anything to stop climate change?. There is no evidence it will. The same questions are being asked (and failing to get an answer) in the US. The UK will have to spend £50b a year for net zero? Yes, changing from fossil fuels, therefore spending money, to green will help stop global warming. It is not all about cost going out either it is also about monies coming in, those country's and individuals that develop the means for generating carbon neutral energy will benefit with worldwide sales, just as the 'oil barons' did at the beginning of the last century. Fearing carbon neutral energy is more expensive in more ways that monetary. |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 28, 2023 10:55:46 GMT
Well its a cost benefit analysis - will spending £50 Billion a year do anything to stop climate change?. There is no evidence it will. The same questions are being asked (and failing to get an answer) in the US.
Yes, changing from fossil fuels, therefore spending money, to green will help stop global warming. It is not all about cost going out either it is also about monies coming in, those country's and individuals that develop the means for generating carbon neutral energy will benefit with worldwide sales, just as the 'oil barons' did at the beginning of the last century. Fearing carbon neutral energy is more expensive in more ways that monetary. At least - quite possibly it will cost much more.. A report form Civitas this week estimates the cost could be 3 times the Governments own estimate..  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2023 13:17:18 GMT
The UK will have to spend £50b a year for net zero?
Yes, changing from fossil fuels, therefore spending money, to green will help stop global warming. It is not all about cost going out either it is also about monies coming in, those country's and individuals that develop the means for generating carbon neutral energy will benefit with worldwide sales, just as the 'oil barons' did at the beginning of the last century. Fearing carbon neutral energy is more expensive in more ways that monetary. At least - quite possibly it will cost much more.. A report form Civitas this week estimates the cost could be 3 times the Governments own estimate.. And that will all be borne by the taxpayer? |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 30, 2023 21:13:05 GMT
At least - quite possibly it will cost much more.. A report form Civitas this week estimates the cost could be 3 times the Governments own estimate.. And that will all be borne by the taxpayer? you think someone else is going to pay? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2023 5:41:44 GMT
And that will all be borne by the taxpayer? you think someone else is going to pay? So the taxpayer pays for oil and gas exploration, nuclear energy plants, I thought they were private enterprises. What you appear to be saying is that there is no such thing as private enterprise just public ownership paying dividends to private businesses. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 1, 2023 7:09:46 GMT
you think someone else is going to pay? So the taxpayer pays for oil and gas exploration, nuclear energy plants, I thought they were private enterprises. What you appear to be saying is that there is no such thing as private enterprise just public ownership paying dividends to private businesses. There is only one sector of the community that pays for anything.. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2023 7:50:46 GMT
So the taxpayer pays for oil and gas exploration, nuclear energy plants, I thought they were private enterprises. What you appear to be saying is that there is no such thing as private enterprise just public ownership paying dividends to private businesses. There is only one sector of the community that pays for anything.. So big business do not invest in their projects? |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 1, 2023 10:37:46 GMT
There is only one sector of the community that pays for anything.. So big business do not invest in their projects? where do they get that money from? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2023 11:16:32 GMT
So big business do not invest in their projects? where do they get that money from? Where does any business get their money from? |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 1, 2023 17:20:11 GMT
where do they get that money from? Where does any business get their money from? I've already told you that... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2023 5:10:23 GMT
Where does any business get their money from? I've already told you that... So businesses don't do R&R and invest in their products? Did 'we' pay for the oil and gas infrastructure that we have come to rely on? The cost of 'green' technology is no different from the cost of 'dirty' energy but it will be better for all of us. |
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Post by wapentake on Oct 2, 2023 5:19:09 GMT
Well I just pumped in my address and apparently I'm not eligible. But this simply proves my original point - the move to Net Zero is going to cost Billions every year, it doesn't matter if the individual pays or the government, the money is going to come from somewhere. If that sort of attitude was applied throughout history we would all still be living in caves, If the net zero nutters get their way we will be practically reduced to that state. |
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