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Post by thomas on Sept 25, 2023 16:08:20 GMT
so british history didnt exist by that rule from 1973 to 2020? right ho danny boy. We really are plumbing the depths of depravity in brit nat la la land now. Desperate straw-clutching noises and sounds of furious barrel-scraping coming out of the damp, grey North. no dan. Its your rule that if a country/nation/state is part of some other entity then that country and its history cease to exist. Patently absurd of course , but its your made up rule.
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Post by thomas on Sept 25, 2023 16:11:35 GMT
told you before many many times. If wanting indpendence from london is somehow hating all english , then 65 countires around the world must be guilty of it b4.
Im crying for you here.
. They were also up the backside of London's political circle whilst British democracy was under attack post referendum.
eh ? i thought you told me that we scottish were traitors( no laughng at the back please) because we were up the backside of the dreaded eu political circle? Now its london?
I cant keep up with you and danny boys fantasies b4.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2023 16:21:55 GMT
You've failed to give Dan a single credible response to his questions. Responding with the usual diatribe only demonstrates that you have nothing. It isn't my fault you favour the fiction.
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Post by thomas on Sept 25, 2023 16:25:05 GMT
You've failed to give Dan a single credible response to his questions. Responding with the usual diatribe only demonstrates that you have nothing. It isn't my fault you favour the fiction. danny doesnt need you to hold his hand b4 You just concentrate on your own dribbling . crying about nazis and communists is all very well and good , but its adding nothing to the debate.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2023 16:26:32 GMT
You maybe able to convince a few drunks, but as far as I'm concerned you're pretty crap at this.
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Post by thomas on Sept 25, 2023 16:36:55 GMT
You maybe able to convince a few drunks, but as far as I'm concerned you're pretty crap at this. well watching you and danny boy trying and failing to make a point is like watching a drunk stagger about the pub wrecking the furniture in the process. If you cant raise your game above screaming scotland and its history dont exist , we are all bwitish , and anyone who says otherwise is a nazi and a russian , then i cant spend all evening waiting for you to get to the point at some stage.
Now would you like to talk about anything...politics....history , or just carry on screaming and crying ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2023 16:42:51 GMT
Sniverling, trolling and telling lies, whilst failing to offer a single valid argument, is about as good as it gets from you.
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Post by thomas on Sept 25, 2023 16:47:07 GMT
Sniverling, trolling and telling lies, whilst failing to offer a single valid argument, is about as good as it gets from you. as i said on another thread , all you do is play the man each and everytime. Do you have a thought on the subject at hand , any thought , or is trolling your daily delight?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2023 16:51:09 GMT
You post a lot of hypocritical BS, Thomas. What you don't do is offer a convincing argument.
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Post by thomas on Sept 25, 2023 16:53:54 GMT
You post a lot of hypocritical BS, Thomas. What you don't do is offer a convincing argument. well would you like to talk about the 1820 uprising in scotland b4 ? |
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Post by bancroft on Sept 25, 2023 18:17:29 GMT
I'll add a bit, first the history should start with Picts and then the Irish invasion after the Romans left which pushed the Picts Eastwards.
You bet that will never be taught as it is divisive.
Will they cover the Norman take over as Robert the Bruce was closely related to the English King from their Norman heritage.
Next as well as covering battles against the English and undoubtedly some rough treatment will they name the big Scottish families that made a mint out of the British Empire like slaving in the West Indies.
Or is all English bashing like the Irish with Oliver Cromwell in Ireland.
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Post by sandypine on Sept 25, 2023 20:05:21 GMT
I cannot stand multiquoting, it becomes disjointed and hard to follow and reply when it is split up so. But then that is maybe just me. ok sandy my apologies .Perhaps so the comments can flow more easily and answers make sense , you could dissect the pertinent paragrpahs you want to reply to into seperate posts. I often do that to save others from tedium but again maybe that is just me. I will give it a little thought. |
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Post by sandypine on Sept 25, 2023 20:25:18 GMT
what are you talking about sandy? Are you not aware gaelic is scotlands native language , not scots? Scots at best is a dialect of middle english , and there are many arguemnts as to wether its a language in its own right or not .
Galeic is not Scotland's native tongue, it is the language of the Irish invaders and became the language for much of Scotland but never the Eastern lowlands which were always old Scots (English, Dane and Pictish) then English (of sorts) and some Gaelic influences. I do not understand the need to be Gaelic and have the Gaelic language inserted into Central Scotland as a native language. Wallace probably spoke Norman French as did Bruce. I had to travel to Crianlarich before I heard Gaelic in the pub, closer to home I could not understand the country folk from round Dunblane but it was not Gaelic. |
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Post by morayloon on Sept 25, 2023 22:00:35 GMT
what are you talking about sandy? Are you not aware gaelic is scotlands native language , not scots? Scots at best is a dialect of middle english , and there are many arguemnts as to wether its a language in its own right or not .
Galeic is not Scotland's native tongue, it is the language of the Irish invaders and became the language for much of Scotland but never the Eastern lowlands which were always old Scots (English, Dane and Pictish) then English (of sorts) and some Gaelic influences. I do not understand the need to be Gaelic and have the Gaelic language inserted into Central Scotland as a native language. Wallace probably spoke Norman French as did Bruce. I had to travel to Crianlarich before I heard Gaelic in the pub, closer to home I could not understand the country folk from round Dunblane but it was not Gaelic. "... then English (of sorts)". They spoke Scots, in whatever dialect they speak in Dunblane. Scots is not English (of sorts)! I checked online about T's statement that "Scots at best is a dialect of middle English" and it looks as though it could be the other way round: " Under the linguistic definition of elaboration, Older Scots qualifies as a language earlier than Middle English, as Older Scots was used more widely and in more consistent forms in documents slightly earlier than any other variety of Middle English."
blogs.nottingham.ac.uk/medieval/2014/02/24/older-scots-and-middle-english-mutually-comprehensible-dialects/#:~:text=Under%20the%20linguistic%20definition%20of,other%20variety%20of%20Middle%20English. Gaelic speakers migrated south and east. So, there were 'communities' of Gaels throughout central Scotland. It is said that Glasgow & Edinburgh accounts for about half of all speakers of the language. So, there is a historic link which needs to be kept alive. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 25, 2023 23:21:26 GMT
Galeic is not Scotland's native tongue, it is the language of the Irish invaders and became the language for much of Scotland but never the Eastern lowlands which were always old Scots (English, Dane and Pictish) then English (of sorts) and some Gaelic influences. I do not understand the need to be Gaelic and have the Gaelic language inserted into Central Scotland as a native language. Wallace probably spoke Norman French as did Bruce. I had to travel to Crianlarich before I heard Gaelic in the pub, closer to home I could not understand the country folk from round Dunblane but it was not Gaelic. One of the most interesting posts I've read today. |
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