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Post by Pacifico on Sept 21, 2023 8:18:07 GMT
Which is great - we now can find out which polling company is the most accurate - Yougov or 'Find Out Now' (no I have never heard of them either..  ) They could actually both be accurate. They are asking two different questions, one is about the policy, and one is about likelihood of voting for Sunak based on it. I wasn't contradicting your poll, merely putting in a new point of view. If you look at the numbers you can see how they correlate. Fair point - but in a 2 horse race I'd suggest that most people are going to vote for the policies they want. If the Tories are prioritising the cost of living and Labour prioritising winning the race to Net Zero then at least we have clear blue water between the Parties - and people can vote on based on how much they are willing to pay. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 21, 2023 8:21:38 GMT
They could actually both be accurate. They are asking two different questions, one is about the policy, and one is about likelihood of voting for Sunak based on it. I wasn't contradicting your poll, merely putting in a new point of view. If you look at the numbers you can see how they correlate. Fair point - but in a 2 horse race I'd suggest that most people are going to vote for the policies they want. If the Tories are prioritising the cost of living and Labour prioritising winning the race to Net Zero then at least we have clear blue water between the Parties - and people can vote on based on how much they are willing to pay. But can we trust flip flop starmer to hold fast? |
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Post by Hutchyns on Sept 21, 2023 8:39:28 GMT
A bit rushed, but the need to come out as the motorists friend at the very time the UK was witnessing Labour actively making life hell for car drivers in Wales was too good to miss. Plus Sunak is always happy to bring us more in line with the EU, in the fairly safe knowledge that flip-flopping Starmer will grudgingly accept this in due time, while being secretly pleased the can has been kicked down the road. It seems a little bit strange to see common sense prevailing in 2023, but let's embrace this rare occurrence.  |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 21, 2023 9:49:32 GMT
As has been stated on Peston last night, in a way it's a bit of a freebie for Sunak. Labour have said if they win the election next year they would reverse the cars anyway, although don't seem to have a view on boilers.
This is of course speculating that it gets through parliament anyway, which is far from certain.
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Post by jonksy on Sept 21, 2023 10:56:02 GMT
As has been stated on Peston last night, in a way it's a bit of a freebie for Sunak. Labour have said if they win the election next year they would reverse the cars anyway, although don't seem to have a view on boilers. This is of course speculating that it gets through parliament anyway, which is far from certain. What's the use of pushing items the public do not want. I see now that the new hybrids have a range of 60 miles. Who in their right minds would purchase one of those apart from the usual idiots of course who hold bumburgh in such high esteem. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 21, 2023 11:30:21 GMT
As has been stated on Peston last night, in a way it's a bit of a freebie for Sunak. Labour have said if they win the election next year they would reverse the cars anyway, although don't seem to have a view on boilers. This is of course speculating that it gets through parliament anyway, which is far from certain. Do you have a date when Labour promised that or is this “ I would of done that “ from Labour ? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 21, 2023 11:32:09 GMT
As has been stated on Peston last night, in a way it's a bit of a freebie for Sunak. Labour have said if they win the election next year they would reverse the cars anyway, although don't seem to have a view on boilers. This is of course speculating that it gets through parliament anyway, which is far from certain. Do you have a date when Labour promised that or is this “ I would of done that “ from Labour ? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 21, 2023 11:32:15 GMT
Sunak would not dare to interfere with something which is the domain of the elected Mayor of London and the London Assembly. Half of Londoners do not even own a car, and a petrol car needs to be generaly SEVENTEEN YEARS OLD to fail the emissions standards, how many people do you know have a 17 year old car. ? How on earth can anyone declare that taking 30,000 vehicles off the road will not make any difference to polution ? The problem is Ulez doesn't only penalize people who live in 'congested' London, Khan's spy cameras go all the way out to Waltham Abbey & Potters Bar in the north and as far south as rural Biggin Hill. Ulez is an absolute scam, it has nothing to do with the environment it's a money making scheme, and Sunak doesn't have to 'interfere', Khan will be kicked out of office in May. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 21, 2023 11:34:09 GMT
Indeed. I read your post incorrectly, apologies. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 21, 2023 11:46:02 GMT
We have basically started the campaign for the next election, which now looks like Spring 2024, as boat numbers will be low (because of weather) and to avoid overspill from bad local elections in May. I agree, this does look like the start of the election campaign. A spring election? Never considered it, it's an interesting thought. Yes it would make sense as far as the boats go, and if interest rates and inflation are low Hunt will say with some justification that his economic plan is working, and if Sunak senses a feelgood factor in the air, yes why not. The more you look at an early election, the more plausible it becomes. An early election? Yes indeed an exiting prospect, if you like that sort of thing. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 21, 2023 12:04:13 GMT
Spring election looks wise. Maybe a generous pre election budget ?
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 21, 2023 12:07:20 GMT
Spring election looks wise. Maybe a generous pre election budget ? Interesting question, but I suspect that the answer is no. Jeremy Hunt has consistently said no giveaways, stick with the plan. If they learn only one thing from the Liz Truss debacle it's don't spook the markets by changing course rapidly. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 21, 2023 12:09:09 GMT
Spring election looks wise. Maybe a generous pre election budget ? Interesting question, but I suspect that the answer is no. Jeremy Hunt has consistently said no giveaways, stick with the plan. If they learn only one thing from the Liz Truss debacle it's don't spook the markets. Possibly . Jeremy Hunt might change his mind about ( say) a rise in the basic tax threshold just before a GE . Especially if it looks tight . |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 21, 2023 12:12:37 GMT
They'd have to cut something to pay for it. HS2 maybe?
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Post by Bentley on Sept 21, 2023 12:15:55 GMT
They'd have to cut something to pay for it. HS2 maybe? I dont know . |
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