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Post by zanygame on Oct 5, 2023 17:03:15 GMT
I didn't dispute that, I don't agree with him. I disputed Pacifico's take on it. I think your other line of argumentation is even more hopeless. If a person is banished, they must be banished from somewhere. That's a border Yes but not a closed border. Not fenced or walled or designed to keep anyone out but the banished person. Simply a proclamation that if you the banished are found in a given area, bad things will happen to you. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 5, 2023 17:04:48 GMT
But not in reference to kicking out Braverman. You could banish people long before we ever had borders. He specifically said she should be 'expelled from this country' - how do you have a country if you do not have borders? You are making yourself look daft. Fine. I give in because technically you are right. Of course you have to completely ignore what he was getting at, but that's par on here. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 5, 2023 17:29:25 GMT
He specifically said she should be 'expelled from this country' - how do you have a country if you do not have borders? You are making yourself look daft. Fine. I give in because technically you are right. Of course you have to completely ignore what he was getting at, but that's par on here. Well as he has now apologised and admitted he was talking nonsense perhaps it is best to ignore him. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2023 17:51:18 GMT
I an not even far left, which shows how little you know... LOL, Shrieky - it's the way you tell 'em!🤣🤣 He's a Corbynite. I rest my case. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 5, 2023 18:04:44 GMT
Fine. I give in because technically you are right. Of course you have to completely ignore what he was getting at, but that's par on here. Well as he has now apologised and admitted he was talking nonsense perhaps it is best to ignore him. Best too. perhaps he'll go away.  But thank you for your kindness |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 20:33:42 GMT
Anyone who thinks that being in any way to the left of Tony Blair constitutes being far left, is someone with a very distorted view of political reality. You must be travelling exceptionally fast because your perception of political reality appears to be seriously blue shifted. When you consider the centre to be far right, you're far left. I do not consider the centre to be far right. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 20:39:36 GMT
All the time you have been here you have never talked sense or been all that grounded in reality. So I suppose we shouldnt expect you to start now. Trust me, you're far-left. Bollocks. Firstly I wouldn't trust you as far as I can throw you. And secondly, I know my own mind far better than you do. The fact that you think I am far left just shows what an idiot you and anyone else who thinks the same is. Lenin was far left. Trotsky was far left. And Stalin. And Mao. If you think I have anything much in common with them, you must inhabit some sort of parallel universe. But your grasp upon reality has always been rather tenuous. So I guess I shouldnt be surprised. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 20:49:08 GMT
Like I would waste my time on some abusive far-left oink lecturing people on reality.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 20:54:40 GMT
LOL, Shrieky - it's the way you tell 'em!🤣🤣 He's a Corbynite. I rest my case. It is unlike you to talk such utter shite. I have never been a Corbyn cult follower. I am a democratic socialist and social liberal, views that I can remember being mainstream. I supported Corbyn when he was Labour leader simply because his policy agenda was not hugely different from mine. But my ideals long predated his coming to prominence and will still be there when he has left the political scene. Besides, if you think that supporting Corbyn constitutes being far left, you yourself are showing surprising ignorance. Corbyn is not Stalin, or Lenin, or Mao, or Trotsky, and if you cannot tell the difference between him and them, you are never going to understand what the hard left actually is, nor what it isnt. But it is a common trope of the right to label people like me as extremists, in order to try and discredit us. But honestly, I thought you had more integrity than that. I thought you knew me better than to think of me as some sort of hard anything, or any kind of extremist. I have always debated with you in a reasonable manner. I have not forgotten who you are from another place, and I thought there was a mutual respect between us. Was I wrong? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 6, 2023 21:02:24 GMT
Blimey Shrieky, do you have any shred of self-awareness?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 21:19:12 GMT
Like I would waste my time on some abusive far-left oink lecturing people on reality. You talking about reality is a bit too comical to take seriously anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 21:19:47 GMT
Blimey Shrieky, do you have any shred of self-awareness? Do you? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 6, 2023 21:47:34 GMT
Yes, I'm a centrist who can recognise a lefty extremist when I encounter one.
But don't worry, I don't take you seriously.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 7, 2023 6:03:19 GMT
Police 'wrongly label hundreds of rapists as women in referrals to the CPS' - despite Home Secretary Suella Braverman's orders not to In last four years, police referred 260 'females' to CPS to consider rape charge Police have reportedly wrongly labelled hundreds of alleged rapists as women in referrals to the Crown Prosecution Service - despite Home Secretary Suella Braverman's orders not to. The scale of police adopting the self-declared gender of suspected rapists has been shown for the first time in figures obtained under the Freedom of Information Act. In the last four years, police forces have referred 260 'females' to the CPS to consider a rape charge, The Telegraph reports. Another 209 alleged sex attackers have been recorded as an 'unknown' sex, which is thought to include people who identify as non-binary. Despite the Home Office insisting police should record the biological sex, it remains voluntary guidance and is down to each force. By law, only men can commit rape. Therefore, it raises fears that self-declaring gender gets around a legal loophole. According to CPS guidance online, rape involves penetration 'by a penis, therefore a woman can only commit this offence as an accomplice'. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12603973/Police-wrongly-label-hundreds-rapists-women-referrals-CPS-despite-Home-Secretary-Suella-Bravermans-orders-not-to.html |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 8, 2023 10:56:00 GMT
multiculturalism working well...  |
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