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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 5, 2023 9:36:35 GMT
I an not even far left, which shows how little you know... LOL, Shrieky - it's the way you tell 'em!🤣🤣 |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2023 10:14:05 GMT
Well, you keep telling yourself that and the rest of us can just laugh and dismiss it as the usual far-left rhetoric and fantasy. She's exposing people like you. Playing along with your fantasy I would argue that the idea of a white racist (I know you lefties see no other) voting for a dark women is illogical. However, pandering to those who elected this government, many times, to address immigration, is to be expected. The question is whether or not it's just hot air to prolong the BS. All the time you have been here you have never talked sense or been all that grounded in reality. So I suppose we shouldnt expect you to start now. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2023 10:17:45 GMT
I an not even far left, which shows how little you know... LOL, Shrieky - it's the way you tell 'em!🤣🤣 Anyone who thinks that being in any way to the left of Tony Blair constitutes being far left, is someone with a very distorted view of political reality. You must be travelling exceptionally fast because your perception of political reality appears to be seriously blue shifted. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2023 10:22:51 GMT
Well, you keep telling yourself that and the rest of us can just laugh and dismiss it as the usual far-left rhetoric and fantasy. She's exposing people like you. Playing along with your fantasy I would argue that the idea of a white racist (I know you lefties see no other) voting for a dark women is illogical. However, pandering to those who elected this government, many times, to address immigration, is to be expected. The question is whether or not it's just hot air to prolong the BS. All the time you have been here you have never talked sense or been all that grounded in reality. So I suppose we shouldnt expect you to start now. Trust me, you're far-left. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 5, 2023 11:43:10 GMT
LOL, Shrieky - it's the way you tell 'em!🤣🤣 Anyone who thinks that being in any way to the left of Tony Blair constitutes being far left, is someone with a very distorted view of political reality. You must be travelling exceptionally fast because your perception of political reality appears to be seriously blue shifted. When you consider the centre to be far right, you're far left. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 5, 2023 12:55:02 GMT
If you tip the barrel a bit more you'll see there's a tiny bit you can still scrape out. What sort of barrel are you talking about here? You feel glaring moral inconsistencies like this should be below our dignity - we simply shouldn't comment? There were no glaring inconsistencies. What Ex Greek finance minister yanisvaroufakis said makes no mention about not having borders. Only a stupid twisting of the meaning of borders allows for the comment made by Pacifico. Hence barrel scraping. |
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Post by Orac on Oct 5, 2023 13:03:29 GMT
What sort of barrel are you talking about here? You feel glaring moral inconsistencies like this should be below our dignity - we simply shouldn't comment? There were no glaring inconsistencies. What Ex Greek finance minister yanisvaroufakis said makes no mention about not having borders. Only a stupid twisting of the meaning of borders allows for the comment made by Pacifico. Hence barrel scraping. He said borders were a sign of failure - ie implying that they shouldn't exist. Your stretching of a point here is just pedantry. He clearly has a position on borders and is talking about that position in the video. My own view is that people like him should be allowed to set up their own communities in spare land, so they aren't abusing essentially captive populations with their 'head up their own rectum', unworkable idealism. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 5, 2023 13:12:27 GMT
What sort of barrel are you talking about here? You feel glaring moral inconsistencies like this should be below our dignity - we simply shouldn't comment? There were no glaring inconsistencies. What Ex Greek finance minister yanisvaroufakis said makes no mention about not having borders. Apart of course from the part where he said - "Do we really want borders"..  |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 5, 2023 15:01:28 GMT
There were no glaring inconsistencies. What Ex Greek finance minister yanisvaroufakis said makes no mention about not having borders. Only a stupid twisting of the meaning of borders allows for the comment made by Pacifico. Hence barrel scraping. He said borders were a sign of failure - ie implying that they shouldn't exist. Your stretching of a point here is just pedantry. He clearly has a position on borders and is talking about that position in the video. My own view is that people like him should be allowed to set up their own communities in spare land, so they aren't abusing essentially captive populations with their 'head up their own rectum', unworkable idealism. How convenient, he "implied" something you could stretch into fact and then exaggerate absurdium. Sigh. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 5, 2023 15:12:18 GMT
There were no glaring inconsistencies. What Ex Greek finance minister yanisvaroufakis said makes no mention about not having borders. Apart of course from the part where he said - "Do we really want borders".. But not in reference to kicking out Braverman. You could banish people long before we ever had borders. The rest is just his view and not one many people think is viable. Though I do find it hilarious that Braverman can wind the right wingers into blaming refugees for the countries the problems in housing shortages, economy, infrastructure etc while at the same time inviting 10 times as many to come and live here every year. I mean, just how dim have you got to be to fall for that distraction. |
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Post by Orac on Oct 5, 2023 15:21:00 GMT
He said borders were a sign of failure - ie implying that they shouldn't exist. Your stretching of a point here is just pedantry. He clearly has a position on borders and is talking about that position in the video. My own view is that people like him should be allowed to set up their own communities in spare land, so they aren't abusing essentially captive populations with their 'head up their own rectum', unworkable idealism. How convenient, he "implied" something you could stretch into fact and then exaggerate absurdium. Sigh. I'm not exaggerating - the man calls borders a sign of failure and implies with his examples that not having them would be good. There is no stretch there at all. Unfortunately, these self absorbed dickheads are real. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 5, 2023 15:26:23 GMT
How convenient, he "implied" something you could stretch into fact and then exaggerate absurdium. Sigh. I'm not exaggerating - the man calls borders a sign of failure and implies with his examples that not having them would be good. There is no stretch there at all. Unfortunately, these self absorbed dickheads are real. I didn't dispute that, I don't agree with him. I disputed Pacifico's take on it. THF I find your thinking so tortuous that I might stop responding to you. Between you making shit up about what I think and turning opinion into fact I really struggle. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 5, 2023 15:39:34 GMT
How convenient, he "implied" something you could stretch into fact and then exaggerate absurdium. Sigh. I'm not exaggerating - the man calls borders a sign of failure and implies with his examples that not having them would be good. There is no stretch there at all. Unfortunately, these self absorbed dickheads are real. I wasn't challenging that, I know what he said and I disagree with him. The modern world does need borders. I was questioning Pacifico's take on it. In a way borders are a sign of human failure as are locks on doors. But they also reflect reality. |
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Post by Orac on Oct 5, 2023 16:02:39 GMT
I'm not exaggerating - the man calls borders a sign of failure and implies with his examples that not having them would be good. There is no stretch there at all. Unfortunately, these self absorbed dickheads are real. I didn't dispute that, I don't agree with him. I disputed Pacifico's take on it. I think your other line of argumentation is even more hopeless. If a person is banished, they must be banished from somewhere. That's a border |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 5, 2023 16:32:31 GMT
Apart of course from the part where he said - "Do we really want borders".. But not in reference to kicking out Braverman. You could banish people long before we ever had borders. He specifically said she should be 'expelled from this country' - how do you have a country if you do not have borders? You are making yourself look daft. |
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