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Post by see2 on Sept 21, 2023 14:09:00 GMT
Hard right . Thinks that their country has its own culture and wants to preserve it. Opposes excessive immigration and expects immigrants to respect the culture of the country that nourishes them . Opposes the idea that a bloke in a dress is a woman Thinks that the nuclear family with a man and a woman as parents is the ideal. Respects Christian values . We need more of them . To the lunatic left those things are far right, to everyone else they're just normal. Its a good job then, that the "lunatic left" will never gain power or even look like gaining power in this country. I guess that probably makes your post and the post you replied to as nothing more than scare mongering. |
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Post by sandypine on Sept 21, 2023 14:26:10 GMT
To the lunatic left those things are far right, to everyone else they're just normal. Its a good job then, that the "lunatic left" will never gain power or even look like gaining power in this country. I guess that probably makes your post and the post you replied to as nothing more than scare mongering. Perhaps they will not gain power but those in power are pandering to their wishes in far too many areas and polices that are supposedly 'far right' are jettisoned. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 21, 2023 14:53:00 GMT
Hard right . Thinks that their country has its own culture and wants to preserve it. Opposes excessive immigration and expects immigrants to respect the culture of the country that nourishes them . Opposes the idea that a bloke in a dress is a woman Thinks that the nuclear family with a man and a woman as parents is the ideal. Respects Christian values . We need more of them . To the lunatic left those things are far right, to everyone else they're just normal. Indeed. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 21, 2023 14:59:25 GMT
Your post almost certainly suggests that you didn’t understand the post that you replied to. I answered and explained two points from your post which is why your reply is just more of your absolute nonsense. Bye. Nope . What you did do is knee jerk confirm my point about lefties changing the goalposts by changing the BLM . You never quite grasped the point made . |
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Post by zanygame on Sept 21, 2023 18:59:04 GMT
What I would like is a simple answer to the question I have posed twice now. May as well try for third go. Do you believe the public would agree that spending much more on asylum seekers than on border control is the correct order of priority? If you are going to respond with more tap-dancing then please don't bother. I think the public would need the reasons behind the numbers to make a decision. Trying to limit the answers I can give does not work. |
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Post by Orac on Sept 21, 2023 19:19:22 GMT
Would you agree a homeowner, who spent more on housing and feeding burglars than he did on security, had his priorities in a bit of a pickle?
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Post by Dan Dare on Sept 21, 2023 20:15:49 GMT
Zany doesn't seem to be open to the possibility that spending twice as much on looking after unwanted intruders as opposed to investing in the means to keep them out in the first place might not be a sensible use of public funds.
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Post by zanygame on Sept 21, 2023 20:19:37 GMT
Would you agree a homeowner, who spent more on housing and feeding burglars than he did on security, had his priorities in a bit of a pickle? What is the alternative if security doesn't work. |
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Post by zanygame on Sept 21, 2023 20:20:53 GMT
Zany doesn't seem to be open to the possibility that spending twice as much on looking after unwanted intruders as opposed to investing in the means to keep them out in the first place might not be a sensible use of public funds. Zany awaits with baited breath your proposals. I'm sure the government wouldn't mind a hint of two as well. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Sept 21, 2023 20:36:30 GMT
Surely the answer is obvious. Eliminate the pull factors and the attraction will evaporate as will the unwanted migrant stream. Instead of accommodating asylum seekers in expensive commercial hotels, fund the Border Agency to erect temporary camps in remote wild and windy places where they can stay for the duration under armed guard. Something along the same lines as refugee camps in the Middle East. These camps do not have to be located on the UK mainland. There will obviously need to be adjustments to the legislation and regulations that require that the Home Office exercise a 'duty of care' towards asylum seekers and safeguard their 'dignity'. Equally so the nonsense fiction that asylum seekers are to be accommodated in the 'community' while their cases are assessed.
Finally there needs to be a radical overhaul of the legal approach to asylum claims to reduce the number of successful claims to the levels that prevail in other European countries. This would be a good start. |
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Post by zanygame on Sept 21, 2023 20:43:05 GMT
Surely the answer is obvious. Eliminate the pull factors and the attraction will evaporate as will the unwanted migrant stream. Instead of accommodating asylum seekers in expensive commercial hotels, fund the Border Agency to erect temporary camps in remote wild and windy places where they can stay for the duration under armed guard. Something along the same lines as refugee camps in the Middle East. These camps do not have to be located on the UK mainland. There will obviously need to be adjustments to the legislation and regulations that require that the Home Office exercise a 'duty of care' towards asylum seekers and safeguard their 'dignity'. Equally so the nonsense fiction that asylum seekers are to be accommodated in the 'community' while their cases are assessed.
Finally there needs to be a radical overhaul of the legal approach to asylum claims to reduce the number of successful claims to the levels that prevail in other European countries. This would be a good start. Or stab them with pointy sticks. Or any other inhuman behaviour. Trouble with inhuman behaviour is that it makes us inhuman. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Sept 21, 2023 20:51:04 GMT
Kindly explain how creating UNHCR-style camps for asylum seekers is 'inhuman'.
And ditto why treating claims as other European countries do is likewise. One aspect of that is of course is abolishing legal aid for asylum cases. But that only means that the myriad charities and NGOs that concern themselves with 'migrants rights' will need to take up the slack. That leaves the field open for sympathisers like your goodself to do your bit.
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 21, 2023 21:21:05 GMT
Would you agree a homeowner, who spent more on housing and feeding burglars than he did on security, had his priorities in a bit of a pickle? What is the alternative if security doesn't work. Any island that doesn't make security work is not really trying.. |
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Post by zanygame on Sept 21, 2023 21:49:49 GMT
Kindly explain how creating UNHCR-style camps for asylum seekers is 'inhuman'. And ditto why treating claims as other European countries do is likewise. One aspect of that is of course is abolishing legal aid for asylum cases. But that only means that the myriad charities and NGOs that concern themselves with 'migrants rights' will need to take up the slack. That leaves the field open for sympathisers like your goodself to do your bit. I think the clue is here, "fund the Border Agency to erect temporary camps in remote wild and windy places" |
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Post by zanygame on Sept 21, 2023 21:57:15 GMT
What is the alternative if security doesn't work. Any island that doesn't make security work is not really trying.. I'm sure you could protect our 19,000 miles of coast. Dads army |
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