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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2022 22:18:16 GMT
All sorts of reasons including, but not limited to, culture clash, social cohesion, the stability of society, language problems and not least the fact no one has said that is what was the intent and no one gave permission for it to happen, in fact the very opposite of what were the stated aims and what was actually voted for by the electorate Rubbish - parties exist that propose zero immigration, they are massively rejected by the electorate. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 11, 2022 22:18:43 GMT
Not at all. We all know the likes of you won't be satisfied until a majority of the population are foreign-born or of foreign extraction. The good news is you won't have long to wait.
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Post by Steve on Nov 12, 2022 0:41:36 GMT
Not at all. We all know the likes of you won't be satisfied until a majority of the population are foreign-born or of foreign extraction. The good news is you won't have long to wait.  Have you always found arithmetic difficult? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 12, 2022 8:31:11 GMT
No call for fretting about the adverse reaction, proggies. No less a personage than Sunder Katwala, the Indo-Irish Top Wallah at the Soros-funded ‘think tank’ British Future, has used his regular column in Eastern Eye ‘The Voice of British Asians’ to re-assure us that, although numbers are higher than ever, support for reducing immigration has never been lower. And not just that. He further pronounces that ”It is no longer legitimate to contest the presence of the ten million people who have made a life here”, a principle now recognised by every ‘mainstream political voice’. So we should not get downhearted about the noisy brayings of the neo-Powellites and the Great Replacement theorists who claim just the opposite. In fact the tidings are even gladder, per Katwala: “If net migration maintains its current pace, the number of people born overseas will reach 12.5 million in the next decade;”Far from merely maintaining its current pace, net migration has even accelerated since the 10 Million milestone was reached. At ‘current pace’, the 12.5 Million target will likely be met by 2025 at the latest. Ten million stories of migration to Britain |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 12, 2022 8:41:49 GMT
Dan I don't know why you worry the Native British race will come a minority it wont happen despite various predictions that offer different years
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 12, 2022 8:45:36 GMT
What do you believe is going to prevent it?
European-Americans will become a minority in only twenty years, and the UK is on an identical demographic trajectory. David Coleman projected 2066 for us, but that seems very optimistic now given all the changes since he made that prediction in 2010.
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Post by sandypine on Nov 12, 2022 8:52:54 GMT
All sorts of reasons including, but not limited to, culture clash, social cohesion, the stability of society, language problems and not least the fact no one has said that is what was the intent and no one gave permission for it to happen, in fact the very opposite of what were the stated aims and what was actually voted for by the electorate Rubbish - parties exist that propose zero immigration, they are massively rejected by the electorate. Well if we are talking about massively rejected by the electorate then we need to look at what is massively voted for by the electorate. In the past 60 years that has been consistently controlled/reduced immigration. That has been the polices of almost every party with a chance of power as outlined in their manifestos. There is no manifesto that says we will increase immigration to bring about a different demographic and change the face of the country. If democracy is important in terms of rejecting zero immigration why does it pale into insignificance when the electorate actually vote to reduce immigration certainly as the last 12 years where it has been policy to reduce to tens of thousands and here we are at hundreds of thousands. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 12, 2022 8:56:28 GMT
True that. No post-war British government has ever been elected on a manifesto promising to increase the numbers of foreigners, but every one - without exception - has presided over just such an increase.
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Post by sandypine on Nov 12, 2022 8:57:21 GMT
Dan I don't know why you worry the Native British race will come a minority it wont happen despite various predictions that offer different years Why is it the left support self determination for almost everyone but the British? |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 12, 2022 9:08:54 GMT
Europeaitself-Americans will become a minority in only twenty years, animmigrationaK is on an identical demographic trajectory. David Coleman projected 2066 for us, but that seems very optimistic now given all the changes since he made that prediction in 2010. Your example of coleman is why i said the doom sayers seem to offer different dates what shows Its not a perfect sience. and they all seem to be fixed on the immigration/birth rate well the simple Answer is to limit immigration to avm8re subtainable rate and immigrants seem to be having less children |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 12, 2022 9:13:14 GMT
Dan I don't know why you worry the Native British race will come a minority it wont happen despite various predictions that offer different years Why is it the left support self determination for almost everyone but the British? Because were anti white British lol. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 12, 2022 9:27:43 GMT
Europeaitself-Americans will become a minority in only twenty years, animmigrationaK is on an identical demographic trajectory. David Coleman projected 2066 for us, but that seems very optimistic now given all the changes since he made that prediction in 2010. Your example of coleman is why i said the doom sayers seem to offer different dates what shows Its not a perfect sience. and they all seem to be fixed on the immigration/birth rate well the simple Answer is to limit immigration to avm8re subtainable rate and immigrants seem to be having less children Coleman's projections are based on official statistics from the ONS and a set of assumptions regarding fertility, mortality and migration. They are perfectly sound.
Perhaps you ought to share your ideas about limiting immigration to a 'more sustainable rate' with the government - they don't seem to have a clue about how to go about doing that. Brexit was supposed to be the silver bullet, but all that accomplished was a change in source countries. The migrant streams themselves are undiminished, in fact quite the opposite.
As for birth rates, I touched on 'natural growth' for different ethnic groups earlier in the thread.
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Post by Steve on Nov 12, 2022 11:22:50 GMT
Your example of coleman is why i said the doom sayers seem to offer different dates what shows Its not a perfect sience. and they all seem to be fixed on the immigration/birth rate well the simple Answer is to limit immigration to avm8re subtainable rate and immigrants seem to be having less children Coleman's projections are based on official statistics from the ONS and a set of assumptions regarding fertility, mortality and migration. They are perfectly sound.
Perhaps you ought to share your ideas about limiting immigration to a 'more sustainable rate' with the government - they don't seem to have a clue about how to go about doing that. Brexit was supposed to be the silver bullet, but all that accomplished was a change in source countries. The migrant streams themselves are undiminished, in fact quite the opposite.
As for birth rates, I touched on 'natural growth' for different ethnic groups earlier in the thread.
No because Coleman assumed that fertility levels were determined by ethnicity and not circumstance so his 2010 paper predicting 2066 (which is hardly your pretence of 'soon') disregarded (deliberately?) that second and third generation descendants of immigrants increasingly match the indigenous fertility rates. What else would one expect of a co-founder of Migration watch? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 12, 2022 11:35:39 GMT
Perhaps you can share with us your source for Coleman's 2010 fertility projections for ethnic groups. I assume you have the data to hand and have referred to it before posting given the tone of certainty of your pronouncements.
So, put up or shut up.
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