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Post by jonksy on Sept 9, 2023 9:16:47 GMT
How many more times do I have to answer your question? YES THEY DO.. Not a good look for labour and definitely not a vote winner. Told you your reading skills are poor, you said previously "support", I wanted to know if they "donated". At least you have clarified now, thank you. I don't think your answer is correct (probably not a surprise for you), but again you have the opportunity to prove me wrong if you wish (but I won't hold my breath because that's not your MO). There is nothing wrong with my reading skills or common sense. You have been proven wrong and if push comes to shove I bet labour were complicit in the starting of JSO and the other mob of UK hating arseholes called rebbelian extinction. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2023 9:25:41 GMT
A message for the Tory Apologists
Why have local councils and local authorities up and down the country closed libraries, youth centres, swimming pools, community centres, sports halls and leisure centres. ?
Why have local authorities, Tory ones, Labour ones, those with No Overall Control, Independent ones and Lib Dem ones cut workforce numbers, stopped emptying bins as regular, closed council offices, stopped tending to parks and gardens as often.
Why have local authorities up and down the land, of all political persuassions cut public transport, cut Winter road maintanence, increased charges and fees, closed extra learning and education facillities and
Why are so many local councils close to bankrupt ?
The electorate know the truth, and there s no way back for the guilty party
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Post by jonksy on Sept 9, 2023 9:40:43 GMT
A message for the Tory Apologists Why have local councils and local authorities up and down the country closed libraries, youth centres, swimming pools, community centres, sports halls and leisure centres. ? Why have local authorities, Tory ones, Labour ones, those with No Overall Control, Independent ones and Lib Dem ones cut workforce numbers, stopped emptying bins as regular, closed council offices, stopped tending to parks and gardens as often. Why have local authorities up and down the land, of all political persuassions cut public transport, cut Winter road maintanence, increased charges and fees, closed extra learning and education facillities and Why are so many local councils close to bankrupt ? The electorate know the truth, and there s no way back for the guilty party They are all the frigging same the Tories are shite, labour are double shite and the libdems don't even know what day of the week it is. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 9, 2023 9:46:36 GMT
Told you your reading skills are poor, you said previously "support", I wanted to know if they "donated". At least you have clarified now, thank you. I don't think your answer is correct (probably not a surprise for you), but again you have the opportunity to prove me wrong if you wish (but I won't hold my breath because that's not your MO). There is nothing wrong with my reading skills or common sense. You have been proven wrong and if push comes to shove I bet labour were complicit in the starting of JSO and the other mob of UK hating arseholes called rebbelian extinction. What has proved me wrong? Your saying so doesn't. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 9, 2023 9:49:09 GMT
Even the lefy American who started funded CEF which fuds JSO and Extinction Rebellion has resigned as he has stated that the protests are counter productive and political. And we all know that the tories do not support JSO etc......Yes because this whole Just Stop Oil mob dont care a jot about climate change. The reality is they are all spoiled, privileged, trust fund kids who hate working people and believe their planet can be saved by keeping plebes off their roads and planes! Wealthy US entrepreneur bankrolling Just Stop Oil sensationally turns on 'unproductive' climate mob and says 'pink-haired, tattooed and pierced' protesters stopping kids getting to school are not 'accomplishing anything' Trevor Neilson co-founded the Climate Emergency Fund (CEF) which funds JSO he American entrepreneur who funded Just Stop Oil has slammed their activism as 'performative' and claimed the group is alienating those it could be winning over. Trevor Neilson co-founded the Climate Emergency Fund (CEF), a group that bankrolled Extinction Rebellion and JSO, but has since resigned his position and described their methods as 'unproductive'. The 50-year-old Californian businessman stepped down in 2021 but has since decided to speak out to criticise the groups' protest tactics, which include 'slow marches' and blocking roads. Major events have also been disrupted by JSO, including the Rugby Cup final at Twickenham and the Epsom Derby, with Wimbledon suspected to be the next sporting event under threat. 'It's become disruption for the sake of disruption,' Neilson told The Times. 'Working people that are trying to get to their job, get their kid dropped off at school, survive a brutal cost of living crisis in the UK, you know, there's a certain hierarchy of needs that they have. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12230763/Wealthy-entrepreneur-bankrolling-Just-Stop-Oil-turns-unproductive-climate-mob.html |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 9, 2023 9:49:53 GMT
There is nothing wrong with my reading skills or common sense. You have been proven wrong and if push comes to shove I bet labour were complicit in the starting of JSO and the other mob of UK hating arseholes called rebbelian extinction. What has proved me wrong? Your saying so doesn't. You tried to deny that JSO were funding labour. |
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Post by Handyman on Sept 9, 2023 10:04:05 GMT
Does it matter what people donate too , the bottom line is Birmingham Council and others have failed to control their spending , Birmingham was advised not hold the Commonwealth Games due to the huge cost involved, their Council Tax Payers told them not to put a large cycle lane that cost 10 million, they went ahead and hardly anyone uses it
Some Councils have speculated in very expensive property developments, not knowing what they were doing they lost many millions of pounds and have had to cut funding to vulnerable people etc.
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 9, 2023 11:12:40 GMT
What has proved me wrong? Your saying so doesn't. You tried to deny that JSO were funding labour. I don’t believe they do. Correct. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 9, 2023 11:19:29 GMT
Does it matter what people donate too , the bottom line is Birmingham Council and others have failed to control their spending , Birmingham was advised not hold the Commonwealth Games due to the huge cost involved, their Council Tax Payers told them not to put a large cycle lane that cost 10 million, they went ahead and hardly anyone uses it Some Councils have speculated in very expensive property developments, not knowing what they were doing they lost many millions of pounds and have had to cut funding to vulnerable people etc. I get what you're saying, but it isn't those that are bankrupting the council, it's the cost of the equal pay settlements. They flogged off the NEC to pay for it in 2014, but the claims are still coming in. Top that with a failed 5 times over budget IT project and you have trouble. I noticed that Noone commented on my post about Woking. What happened there is far more bonkers than anything in Brum. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 9, 2023 11:25:28 GMT
You tried to deny that JSO were funding labour. I don’t believe they do. Correct. Afool and their money are soon parted. |
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Post by Handyman on Sept 9, 2023 11:29:26 GMT
Does it matter what people donate too , the bottom line is Birmingham Council and others have failed to control their spending , Birmingham was advised not hold the Commonwealth Games due to the huge cost involved, their Council Tax Payers told them not to put a large cycle lane that cost 10 million, they went ahead and hardly anyone uses it Some Councils have speculated in very expensive property developments, not knowing what they were doing they lost many millions of pounds and have had to cut funding to vulnerable people etc. I get what you're saying, but it isn't those that are bankrupting the council, it's the cost of the equal pay settlements. They flogged off the NEC to pay for it in 2014, but the claims are still coming in. Top that with a failed 5 times over budget IT project and you have trouble. I noticed that Noone commented on my post about Woking. What happened there is far more bonkers than anything in Brum. I know all about the equal pay settlements , but the bottom line is they have overspent long before that little or no emergency cash reserves to pay that bill or any other unforeseen bill, and they are not the only Council that is or going bankrupt because they have overspent |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 9, 2023 13:30:38 GMT
I get what you're saying, but it isn't those that are bankrupting the council, it's the cost of the equal pay settlements. They flogged off the NEC to pay for it in 2014, but the claims are still coming in. Top that with a failed 5 times over budget IT project and you have trouble. I noticed that Noone commented on my post about Woking. What happened there is far more bonkers than anything in Brum. I know all about the equal pay settlements , but the bottom line is they have overspent long before that little or no emergency cash reserves to pay that bill or any other unforeseen bill, and they are not the only Council that is or going bankrupt because they have overspent And the overspend is because of council ineptitude and not 40% reduction in budget at a point where mandatory services increasing because of our aging population. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 9, 2023 14:37:56 GMT
I know all about the equal pay settlements , but the bottom line is they have overspent long before that little or no emergency cash reserves to pay that bill or any other unforeseen bill, and they are not the only Council that is or going bankrupt because they have overspent And the overspend is because of council ineptitude and not 40% reduction in budget at a point where mandatory services increasing because of our aging population. They pissed their money against the wall on mad cap lefty woke schemes |
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Post by sheepy on Sept 9, 2023 17:57:09 GMT
A message for the Tory Apologists Why have local councils and local authorities up and down the country closed libraries, youth centres, swimming pools, community centres, sports halls and leisure centres. ? Why have local authorities, Tory ones, Labour ones, those with No Overall Control, Independent ones and Lib Dem ones cut workforce numbers, stopped emptying bins as regular, closed council offices, stopped tending to parks and gardens as often. Why have local authorities up and down the land, of all political persuassions cut public transport, cut Winter road maintanence, increased charges and fees, closed extra learning and education facillities and Why are so many local councils close to bankrupt ? The electorate know the truth, and there s no way back for the guilty party I am pretty sure the electorate know full well how Birmingham has been turned into what it is. They might be a little slow working it out. But on the whole they get there eventually. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 10, 2023 21:06:51 GMT
It seems these councils have enough money to award themselves obscene salaries and pensions. Bosses at five councils facing bankruptcy are pocketing more pay than the PM with CEO of cash-strapped Birmingham getting wage rise of nearly a third since last year Council fat cats are taking nearly £100,000 more than Rishi Sunak's salary The heads of five councils facing bankruptcy are being paid more than the Prime Minister. Some council fat cats are taking home nearly £100,000 more than Rishi Sunak's £167,39 salary - as Kent, Stoke-on-Trent, Southampton and Bradford all pay up despite facing financial chaos. It comes as debt-ridden Birmingham council, the largest in Europe, faces a huge shortfall of £87million after it saw costs of its troubled Oracle IT system balloon from £13million to up to £100million. On Tuesday, chiefs were forced to declare the council effectively bankrupt after also being hit by a £760million bill over equal pay claims. But boss of the cash-strapped authority Deborah Cadman has received a pay-rise in the last year - taking home £244,820 in 2022/23, the Mirror reports. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12501139/Bosses-five-councils-facing-bankruptcy-pocketing-pay-PM-CEO-cash-strapped-Birmingham-getting-wage-rise-nearly-year.html |
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