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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 6, 2023 9:38:57 GMT
Except our mayor is a Tory, Andy Street, who I've actually got a lot of time for. That’s great Andrew and marvellous you like him but what’s that got to do with my post and mayors were created to shift the blame? I was just trying to point out that the West Mids mayor is not a factor in the problems of Brum City Council. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 6, 2023 9:55:24 GMT
These councils are regulating themselves, one half doesn't know what the other half is doing, too many fingers in the till, every council should have a separate department that is overseen by a non-political independent regulator like Ofgem, Ofwat.
Every last penny the council spends should be scrutinised, too many of them are scratching eachothers backs, turning a blind eye, like Joe Anderson, it was common knowledge apparently that thunderpants was in with his criminal mates, handing them lucrative contracts and cheap plots of land, these councils can't run themselves now, but no point asking Sunak to sort it, he's fuckin useless, Hunt is about to hit the disabled and cut their money, to help pay for illegal migrants and bust councils.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2023 10:50:55 GMT
I wonder why mention only three local authorities when there are actually 26 which are either close to bankruptcy or in financial trouble, most are inner city, large urban areas with the many problems this brings, some are Tory councils.
To say, or to believe that 13 years of funding cuts has got nothing to do with it is simply hiding from the truth, or burying your head in the sand.
Down the coast from where I live the local authority attempted to do something about the critical shortage of low cost housing for rent, the Labour led authority went into partnership with the private sector and got 100 homes built out of a planned 700 over ten years, but then the authority was abolished in April and services given to a new, huge unitary authority which is Conservative controled.
The plan is now in jeopardy because the new Tory run authority ( North Yorkshire Council ) believes the plan carries risks.
So we return back to a situation where coastal areas, much of it deprived where people are on low incomes, cannot provide low cost homes for rent, and we have a government which believes the answer is to help THEIR benifactors ( the private building sector ) by building homes TO BUY, in an area where you cannot get a one bedroom flat for under £100,000.00.
This government and the Conservative Party have no answers to any of todays REAL problems, they have done nothing to help solve a serious housing crisis, and have forced local authorities into taking risks out of desperation to remedy a problem that the government is not interested in.
Be gone Rishi Sunak, be gone Tory government, you have failed, and its time to let someone else govern
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 6, 2023 10:56:51 GMT
I wonder why mention only three local authorities when there are actually 26 which are either close to bankruptcy or in financial trouble, most are inner city, large urban areas with the many problems this brings, some are Tory councils. To say, or to believe that 13 years of funding cuts has got nothing to do with it is simply hiding from the truth, or burying your head in the sand. Down the coast from where I live the local authority attempted to do something about the critical shortage of low cost housing for rent, the Labour led authority went into partnership with the private sector and got 100 homes built out of a planned 700 over ten years, but then the authority was abolished in April and services given to a new, huge unitary authority which is Conservative controled. The plan is now in jeopardy because the new Tory run authority ( North Yorkshire Council ) believes the plan carries risks. So we return back to a situation where coastal areas, much of it deprived where people are on low incomes, cannot provide low cost homes for rent, and we have a government which believes the answer is to help THEIR benifactors ( the private building sector ) by building homes TO BUY, in an area where you cannot get a one bedroom flat for under £100,000.00. This government and the Conservative Party have no answers to any of todays REAL problems, they have done nothing to help solve a serious housing crisis, and have forced local authorities into taking risks out of desperation to remedy a problem that the government is not interested in. Be gone Rishi Sunak, be gone Tory government, you have failed, and its time to let someone else govern I can't dispute a lot of what you say, but this much I can say .... Labour will not solve the problems, in fact if you think things are bad now, you aint seen nothing if Labour get in. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2023 11:21:39 GMT
Fairsociety ... I grant you that if Labour win the next election, things will be very tight financially and fiscally, theres not going to be a big pot of money to put things right.
However, I believe the difference will be in attitude and desire and in priorities and principles
It is "in the blood" or in the DNA of Labour to attemt to make society better for The Ordinary People, what was once termed as The Working Class.
The Conservatives are driven by political dogma, as in EVERYTHING must be done via the private sector, including housing, with little or no public housing for rent been built. How does this help people in The Lake District, North Yorkshire, the Southwest and places where property prices are way beyond what ordinary wage earners can afford. ?
Everywhere you look, in every direction, in every aspect of life, things are worse; Our public services, trying to see a doctor, trying to get through to the police station to talk to someone, this may well be the very first time since the Second World War that people will be worse off at the end of a governments term than they were at the beginning.
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Post by wapentake on Sept 6, 2023 11:57:00 GMT
That’s great Andrew and marvellous you like him but what’s that got to do with my post and mayors were created to shift the blame? I was just trying to point out that the West Mids mayor is not a factor in the problems of Brum City Council. Ah ok fair enough  |
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 6, 2023 12:16:11 GMT
Fairsociety ... I grant you that if Labour win the next election, things will be very tight financially and fiscally, theres not going to be a big pot of money to put things right. However, I believe the difference will be in attitude and desire and in priorities and principles It is "in the blood" or in the DNA of Labour to attemt to make society better for The Ordinary People, what was once termed as The Working Class. The Conservatives are driven by political dogma, as in EVERYTHING must be done via the private sector, including housing, with little or no public housing for rent been built. How does this help people in The Lake District, North Yorkshire, the Southwest and places where property prices are way beyond what ordinary wage earners can afford. ? Everywhere you look, in every direction, in every aspect of life, things are worse; Our public services, trying to see a doctor, trying to get through to the police station to talk to someone, this may well be the very first time since the Second World War that people will be worse off at the end of a governments term than they were at the beginning. There are a couple of factors that you have to take into account.
1. COVID pandemic, never in recent history have any government had to deal with a pandemic, which guzzled up billions of tax payers money in furlough and such, if the money had not been spent the government would have been accused of doing nothing.
2. Ukraine war, it has directly impacted not just on the UK but the world, this too has contributed to higher food prices, energy costs, and aid, so you see the Tories have been unlucky that it had to happen under their watch.
3. Last but not least Brexit, we knew it was going to be a rocky ride for the first few years, but with the help of Labour/Lib-dems and the rest of the remoaners they have contributed to stalling progress, they would rather the UK suffer so they can argue for another referendum to rejoin the EU which we now know is demanding over £56Billion 'extra' cash from its members, which would have included the UK had we not left, but Starmer/Davey will never admit that.
I still believe Johnson was the man for the job, Sunak is too Woke, he's too scared of offending people, he's bullied by the remoaners in the camp, he's just not up to it, he was picked for a reason, and now we know what it was.
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Post by see2 on Sept 6, 2023 14:43:05 GMT
Fairsociety ... I grant you that if Labour win the next election, things will be very tight financially and fiscally, theres not going to be a big pot of money to put things right. However, I believe the difference will be in attitude and desire and in priorities and principles It is "in the blood" or in the DNA of Labour to attemt to make society better for The Ordinary People, what was once termed as The Working Class. The Conservatives are driven by political dogma, as in EVERYTHING must be done via the private sector, including housing, with little or no public housing for rent been built. How does this help people in The Lake District, North Yorkshire, the Southwest and places where property prices are way beyond what ordinary wage earners can afford. ? Everywhere you look, in every direction, in every aspect of life, things are worse; Our public services, trying to see a doctor, trying to get through to the police station to talk to someone, this may well be the very first time since the Second World War that people will be worse off at the end of a governments term than they were at the beginning. There are a couple of factors that you have to take into account.
1. COVID pandemic, never in recent history have any government had to deal with a pandemic, which guzzled up billions of tax payers money in furlough and such, if the money had not been spent the government would have been accused of doing nothing.
2. Ukraine war, it has directly impacted not just on the UK but the world, this too has contributed to higher food prices, energy costs, and aid, so you see the Tories have been unlucky that it had to happen under their watch.
3. Last but not least Brexit, we knew it was going to be a rocky ride for the first few years, but with the help of Labour/Lib-dems and the rest of the remoaners they have contributed to stalling progress, they would rather the UK suffer so they can argue for another referendum to rejoin the EU which we now know is demanding over £56Billion 'extra' cash from its members, which would have included the UK had we not left, but Starmer/Davey will never admit that.
I still believe Johnson was the man for the job, Sunak is too Woke, he's too scared of offending people, he's bullied by the remoaners in the camp, he's just not up to it, he was picked for a reason, and now we know what it was.
Slightly off topic so you have my apologies and a guarantee that I will not dispute any reply you post. (even though I will no doubt disagree with any reply you post)  1. Covid struck shortly after Starmer became leader of the opposition, the countries finances along with many other things changed, yet Starmer was accused of lying when he had to change some of his pre-Covid ideas. 2. Ditto Ukraine. 3. No one suggested Brexit would be a rocky start, it was a case of leave today and sunshine tomorrow. That was the attitude at that time. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2023 15:48:33 GMT
The problem is that mayors with powers like khan and burnham in Manchester were created by central govt so that if things go tits up like they have now in Birmingham they can say “nowt to do with us guv they’re in charge there” not they’d ever admit to that they call it local democracy but like so many other things is a blame shifting exercise. Except our mayor is a Tory, Andy Street, who I've actually got a lot of time for. He's not a bad bloke, however, the deficit will have to be made up from somewhere, which means a bailout from central government, meaning people outside Birmingham will have to pay for their ineptitude, through taxation, as if we didn't have enough! |
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 6, 2023 15:52:29 GMT
Well I'm pleased to see the people of Birmingham and beyond aren't falling for the old Labour tact ...'It's not our fault, it;s the Tories'.
This is squarely at the feet of a Labour run council, who have confirmed what most of us already know, they are utterly incompetent and useless with 'other people's money', a taste of things to come if Labour win the GE.
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 6, 2023 16:46:34 GMT
Except our mayor is a Tory, Andy Street, who I've actually got a lot of time for. He's not a bad bloke, however, the deficit will have to be made up from somewhere, which means a bailout from central government, meaning people outside Birmingham will have to pay for their ineptitude, through taxation, as if we didn't have enough! You're almost certainly right, but my point was that Andy Street is the Mayor of the West Midlands Combined Authority, not Brum City Council. |
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Post by borchester on Sept 6, 2023 18:31:57 GMT
He's not a bad bloke, however, the deficit will have to be made up from somewhere, which means a bailout from central government, meaning people outside Birmingham will have to pay for their ineptitude, through taxation, as if we didn't have enough! You're almost certainly right, but my point was that Andy Street is the Mayor of the West Midlands Combined Authority, not Brum City Council. So who is bankrupt, West Midlands Combined Authority, or Birmingham City Council. ? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 6, 2023 18:49:29 GMT
You're almost certainly right, but my point was that Andy Street is the Mayor of the West Midlands Combined Authority, not Brum City Council. So who is bankrupt, West Midlands Combined Authority, or Birmingham City Council. ? Brum City Council. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2023 10:04:50 GMT
8 out of 10 city councils are close to or in bankruptcy, with cuts to spending as the driver.
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 7, 2023 10:22:29 GMT
8 out of 10 city councils are close to or in bankruptcy, with cuts to spending as the driver. Yeah, you and the rest of the lefties would have us believe that, when in reality it's down to corruption, mismanagement, too many top brass raking in huge salaries and bonuses and other perks, that's without their big fat pay offs and pension pots FFS, most of a council budget is swallowed up with salaries and pensions, just take a look at Liverpool Birmingham, they say it all. |
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