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Post by buccaneer on Sept 5, 2023 8:22:52 GMT
Is anyone checking the quality of building materials being used in the 40 new hospitals Boris promised? Again, that would be down to the public sector service itself. Dreary me. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 5, 2023 8:30:39 GMT
Last time Labour were in power, the NHS estate underwent its biggest rebuilding and refurbishment / modernisation programme in its history. The number of new schools, spending on schools and refurbishment of old buildings was all considerably higher than at any time under this government. paid for by PFI and shoddily constructed... ...and shoddy construction is what led to the mess we are in today. Because Labour did then what it does now, takes big backhanders, just take a look at Liverpool 'Labour' Council, Joe Anderson, the big cover up, which the 'inquiries' into will NOT be published, him and the other Labour councilors were taking backhanders, they were selling off carparks and all sorts of land at knockdown prices, in exchange for big bungs, a leopard never changes its spots. |
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Post by oracle75 on Sept 5, 2023 8:42:14 GMT
Is anyone checking the quality of building materials being used in the 40 new hospitals Boris promised? Again, that would be down to the public sector service itself. Dreary me. In other words, government inspection. By the way, you could do worse than sharpen your irony detector. |
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Post by sandypine on Sept 5, 2023 8:46:23 GMT
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Post by buccaneer on Sept 5, 2023 9:30:57 GMT
Is anyone checking the quality of building materials being used in the 40 new hospitals Boris promised? I may be 30 years out of date but any construction is required to have a quality assurance system in place, detailed records of testing and inspection and detailed records of what was actually constructed. There was a time whereby independent testing and inspection companies were employed by Local authorities and government departments, with the advent of QA this was transferred to the Contractor as his responsibility. Since about 2000 most construction has been carried out to EU standards, so they must be sound, yes? Not according to Kim, the PM is personally responsible to tick off all public service buildings and infrastructure! |
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 5, 2023 9:34:13 GMT
I may be 30 years out of date but any construction is required to have a quality assurance system in place, detailed records of testing and inspection and detailed records of what was actually constructed. There was a time whereby independent testing and inspection companies were employed by Local authorities and government departments, with the advent of QA this was transferred to the Contractor as his responsibility. Since about 2000 most construction has been carried out to EU standards, so they must be sound, yes? Not according to Kim, the PM is personally responsible to tick off all public service buildings and infrastructure! They are tick boxes for the civil servants and the public sector authorities, which we know are controlled by Labour, and a big majority of them refuse to go back to the office they continue to WFH, and will not take orders from the Prime Minister, they will get the lefty Unions to step in. |
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Post by wapentake on Sept 5, 2023 9:41:10 GMT
And past administrations knowingly built public buildings with a lifespan of 30 years because they ruled in the short term and thought “ **** this by the time they fall down we’ll be long gone” and laughed. Sunak may be many things but if you really believe this is the fault of the present govt and you’re not political point scoring ( and you are and we all know it) but if by an outside chance you believe it so your brain and thought processes are of the same consistency and value of that concrete,full of air and ready to crumble. Given, they knew the buildings had a lifespan of 30 years makes my point even more pertinent, thank you. Given that this problem has been known for decades then your reply is a very poor get out clause to deny it’s the ongoing dereliction of duty by administrations of all colours to act knowing the problems associated with this. This further illustrates my point that we are governed by short term policies for example pfi where the problems emerge later. The desire to hang all this on Sunak (though I have little regard for him as a politician) is typical and why this country is turning in to a third rate banana republic |
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Post by Steve on Sept 5, 2023 9:57:53 GMT
The Tories have 'knowingly' been putting our kids at risk by allowing the nations schools to crumble. RAAC (Reinforced Autoclaved Aerated Concrete) Has been widely used since the 1950's. But hey, lets not bother with facts, lets blame the nasty Tories who want to kill our children. You utter pillock. It wasn't known to be an issue then. It very much has been since the Tories have been in power this time. And what did they do? Cut the building repair budget and refuse some schools any funds for know needed RAAC repairs. The pillocks you so love to point out are the ones wearing blue rosettes. |
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Post by wapentake on Sept 5, 2023 10:25:52 GMT
RAAC (Reinforced Autoclaved Aerated Concrete) Has been widely used since the 1950's. But hey, lets not bother with facts, lets blame the nasty Tories who want to kill our children. You utter pillock. It wasn't known to be an issue then. It very much has been since the Tories have been in power this time. And what did they do? Cut the building repair budget and refuse some schools any funds for know needed RAAC repairs. The pillocks you so love to point out are the ones wearing blue rosettes. Rubbish it was known during Blair’s term |
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Post by Steve on Sept 5, 2023 10:28:44 GMT
It wasn't known to be an issue then. It very much has been since the Tories have been in power this time. And what did they do? Cut the building repair budget and refuse some schools any funds for know needed RAAC repairs. The pillocks you so love to point out are the ones wearing blue rosettes. Rubbish it was known during Blair’s term Link please showing it was a known risk of collapse during his term. |
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Post by patman post on Sept 5, 2023 10:32:39 GMT
The Tories have 'knowingly' been putting our kids at risk by allowing the nations schools to crumble. Perhaps this is just the latest concrete example of why the majority of people polled are calling the country "Broken Britain", with even the Mail uttering that phrase...
Three quarters of people in Britain say that it is becoming a worse place to live, a poll revealed
After 13 years of Conservative government, it was not supposed to look like this. Strikes, inflation, record NHS waiting lists, a sluggish economy and apparently uncontrollable migration point to a country where things are going wrong. Covid and Ukraine sound increasingly like excuses, not explanations. Recent Tory governments – prompted by Covid and a desire to show suspicious voters that austerity was over – have spent, taxed and borrowed at a rate that would have made Gordon Brown blush https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12474357/LORD-ASHCROFT-Broken-Britain-fixed-regardless-Rishi-Keir-PM.html
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Post by wapentake on Sept 5, 2023 10:39:20 GMT
Rubbish it was known during Blair’s term Link please showing it was a known risk of collapse during his term. Go look at the new civil engineer website And this |
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Post by Handyman on Sept 5, 2023 11:31:39 GMT
The Tories have 'knowingly' been putting our kids at risk by allowing the nations schools to crumble. RAAC (Reinforced Autoclaved Aerated Concrete) Has been widely used since the 1950's. But hey, lets not bother with facts, lets blame the nasty Tories who want to kill our children. You utter pillock. Yes used from the 50's and into the 80's not just in schools, but Hospitals , Council Offices , Public Buildings, Courts even MOD buildings etc, those who own the buildings are responsible for the safety of their buildings no one else IMO. One Welsh Politician accused the Tory Government of not doing anything but he was shot down in flames , the Welsh are responsible with what happens in Wales and have been since Devolution |
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Post by oracle75 on Sept 5, 2023 11:34:57 GMT
Is anyone checking the quality of building materials being used in the 40 new hospitals Boris promised? I may be 30 years out of date but any construction is required to have a quality assurance system in place, detailed records of testing and inspection and detailed records of what was actually constructed. There was a time whereby independent testing and inspection companies were employed by Local authorities and government departments, with the advent of QA this was transferred to the Contractor as his responsibility. Since about 2000 most construction has been carried out to EU standards, so they must be sound, yes? Your point may have validity if there is a problem with buildings less than 23 years old. Otherwise someone legally responsible didnt do their job. Or someone shoved the reports to the bottom of the intray. |
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Post by oracle75 on Sept 5, 2023 11:41:59 GMT
I may be 30 years out of date but any construction is required to have a quality assurance system in place, detailed records of testing and inspection and detailed records of what was actually constructed. There was a time whereby independent testing and inspection companies were employed by Local authorities and government departments, with the advent of QA this was transferred to the Contractor as his responsibility. Since about 2000 most construction has been carried out to EU standards, so they must be sound, yes? Not according to Kim, the PM is personally responsible to tick off all public service buildings and infrastructure. Hey Bubbles I cant check the truth of that. I cant find a post by "Kim". TBH i cant remember anyone saying this. |
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