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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 6, 2023 10:36:54 GMT
Not worth the paper it was written on? No a post like that wouldn't be if you can't present a cogent argument to back your assertion. Can you? Yes, Steve. Yes I can.
It's no secret that the EU is about "ever closer union". Everyone knows that.
And it's clear that ever closer union is not possible without member states ceding more sovereignty to the EU regardless of what any piece of legislation may currently say.
And legislation may be amended, superceded, worked around or simply ignored.
And we all know that the EU has form for all of the above.
So if you want to believe that a piece of EU legislation provides some kind of ongoing guarantee then by all means carry on. But I think that the rest of us are done believing those kinds of fairy stories.
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Post by jonksy on Sept 6, 2023 12:41:52 GMT
No a post like that wouldn't be if you can't present a cogent argument to back your assertion. Can you? Yes, Steve. Yes I can.
It's no secret that the EU is about "ever closer union". Everyone knows that.
And it's clear that ever closer union is not possible without member states ceding more sovereignty to the EU regardless of what any piece of legislation may currently say.
And legislation may be amended, superceded, worked around or simply ignored.
And we all know that the EU has form for all of the above.
So if you want to believe that a piece of EU legislation provides some kind of ongoing guarantee then by all means carry on. But I think that the rest of us are done believing those kinds of fairy stories.
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Post by Steve on Sept 6, 2023 21:49:44 GMT
No a post like that wouldn't be if you can't present a cogent argument to back your assertion. Can you? Yes, Steve. Yes I can.
It's no secret that the EU is about "ever closer union". Everyone knows that.
And it's clear that ever closer union is not possible without member states ceding more sovereignty to the EU regardless of what any piece of legislation may currently say.
And legislation may be amended, superceded, worked around or simply ignored.
And we all know that the EU has form for all of the above.
So if you want to believe that a piece of EU legislation provides some kind of ongoing guarantee then by all means carry on. But I think that the rest of us are done believing those kinds of fairy stories.
You wally We're talking about the 2011 United Kingdom legislation. You've just proven that you've been spouting on for years about the UK and the EU without having a Scooby. Well done. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 7, 2023 4:50:09 GMT
You wally We're talking about the 2011 United Kingdom legislation. You've just proven that you've been spouting on for years about the UK and the EU without having a Scooby. Well done. Makes no odds, Stevie. As I said: And legislation may be amended, superceded, worked around or simply ignored... And no legislation is binding on future governments. You wally. |
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Post by Vinny on Sept 7, 2023 5:08:51 GMT
Exactly, any political act can be repealed.
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Post by buccaneer on Sept 7, 2023 6:49:02 GMT
No a post like that wouldn't be if you can't present a cogent argument to back your assertion. Can you? Yes, Steve. Yes I can.
It's no secret that the EU is about "ever closer union". Everyone knows that.
And it's clear that ever closer union is not possible without member states ceding more sovereignty to the EU regardless of what any piece of legislation may currently say.
And legislation may be amended, superceded, worked around or simply ignored.
And we all know that the EU has form for all of the above.
So if you want to believe that a piece of EU legislation provides some kind of ongoing guarantee then by all means carry on. But I think that the rest of us are done believing those kinds of fairy stories.
It shouldn't need explaing. But good post anyhow. |
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Post by oracle75 on Sept 7, 2023 8:14:11 GMT
No a post like that wouldn't be if you can't present a cogent argument to back your assertion. Can you? Yes, Steve. Yes I can.
It's no secret that the EU is about "ever closer union". Everyone knows that.
And it's clear that ever closer union is not possible without member states ceding more sovereignty to the EU regardless of what any piece of legislation may currently say.
And legislation may be amended, superceded, worked around or simply ignored.
And we all know that the EU has form for all of the above.
So if you want to believe that a piece of EU legislation provides some kind of ongoing guarantee then by all means carry on. But I think that the rest of us are done believing those kinds of fairy stories.
Ever closer union BY AGREEMENT. The UK craves ever closer union with the USA. It has just joined a group of countries half way across the world with the purpose of ever closer union. What the hell is wrong with alliances? Or are you happier playing bulldog to the rest of the world? I suppose you dont approve of the UK FINALLY having ever closer union in thz scientific world, having lost billions of pounds of investment when out of the loop. Why cant you think something through to your own benefit? You do realise that the UK science will be working under EU rules, dont you? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2023 8:16:58 GMT
Yes, Steve. Yes I can.
It's no secret that the EU is about "ever closer union". Everyone knows that.
And it's clear that ever closer union is not possible without member states ceding more sovereignty to the EU regardless of what any piece of legislation may currently say.
And legislation may be amended, superceded, worked around or simply ignored.
And we all know that the EU has form for all of the above.
So if you want to believe that a piece of EU legislation provides some kind of ongoing guarantee then by all means carry on. But I think that the rest of us are done believing those kinds of fairy stories.
It shouldn't need explaing. But good post anyhow. Yes, and what's a certainty is that democracy poses a problem for this model, so much so that one its biggest members voted leave. Something some people find intolerable, which alone tells me it needed to happen. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2023 8:28:37 GMT
You wally We're talking about the 2011 United Kingdom legislation. You've just proven that you've been spouting on for years about the UK and the EU without having a Scooby. Well done. Makes no odds, Stevie. As I said: And legislation may be amended, superceded, worked around or simply ignored... And no legislation is binding on future governments. You wally. I'm sure he's counting on it, even if he displays ignorance. The EUphiles know Labour is very likely to send us right back into the dictatorship. They don't openly admit to it, but all the evidence is there that informs us that Labour is pro-dictator. |
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Post by Steve on Sept 7, 2023 8:32:32 GMT
You wally We're talking about the 2011 United Kingdom legislation. You've just proven that you've been spouting on for years about the UK and the EU without having a Scooby. Well done. Makes no odds, Stevie. As I said: And legislation may be amended, superceded, worked around or simply ignored... And no legislation is binding on future governments. You wally. So no apology for misleading the forum, it what you set out each day to do. And seems you haven't a clue about how difficult it is to pass controversial legislation that contradicts a manifesto. There's actually more 'risk' of new legislation doubling income tax on those that supported Brexit than there was of that act being repealed pre Brexit. |
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Post by Steve on Sept 7, 2023 8:33:59 GMT
Makes no odds, Stevie. As I said: And legislation may be amended, superceded, worked around or simply ignored... And no legislation is binding on future governments. You wally. I'm sure he's counting on it, even if he displays ignorance. The EUphiles know Labour is very likely to send us right back into the dictatorship. They don't openly admit to it, but all the evidence is there that informs us that Labour is pro-dictator. The ignorant ones are those that don't know what that landmark 2011 UK legislation was some of who post fuckwit statements on forums saying it was EU legislation. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2023 8:35:31 GMT
Shameless is what shameless does.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 7, 2023 8:57:42 GMT
Makes no odds, Stevie. As I said: And legislation may be amended, superceded, worked around or simply ignored... And no legislation is binding on future governments. You wally. So no apology for misleading the forum, it what you set out each day to do. And seems you haven't a clue about how difficult it is to pass controversial legislation that contradicts a manifesto. There's actually more 'risk' of new legislation doubling income tax on those that supported Brexit than there was of that act being repealed pre Brexit. Really, Stevie? I note that nowhere have you actually stated the exact legislation to which you refer, which did rather leave us to draw our own conclusions. And you accuse me of misleading the board.😂 |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 7, 2023 8:59:06 GMT
Yes, Steve. Yes I can.
It's no secret that the EU is about "ever closer union". Everyone knows that.
And it's clear that ever closer union is not possible without member states ceding more sovereignty to the EU regardless of what any piece of legislation may currently say.
And legislation may be amended, superceded, worked around or simply ignored.
And we all know that the EU has form for all of the above.
So if you want to believe that a piece of EU legislation provides some kind of ongoing guarantee then by all means carry on. But I think that the rest of us are done believing those kinds of fairy stories.
The UK craves ever closer union with the USA. It has just joined a group of countries half way across the world with the purpose of ever closer union. It doesn’t . |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 7, 2023 9:02:21 GMT
Yes, Steve. Yes I can.
It's no secret that the EU is about "ever closer union". Everyone knows that.
And it's clear that ever closer union is not possible without member states ceding more sovereignty to the EU regardless of what any piece of legislation may currently say.
And legislation may be amended, superceded, worked around or simply ignored.
And we all know that the EU has form for all of the above.
So if you want to believe that a piece of EU legislation provides some kind of ongoing guarantee then by all means carry on. But I think that the rest of us are done believing those kinds of fairy stories.
Ever closer union BY AGREEMENT. The UK craves ever closer union with the USA. It has just joined a group of countries half way across the world with the purpose of ever closer union. What the hell is wrong with alliances? Or are you happier playing bulldog to the rest of the world? I suppose you dont approve of the UK FINALLY having ever closer union in thz scientific world, having lost billions of pounds of investment when out of the loop. Why cant you think something through to your own benefit? You do realise that the UK science will be working under EU rules, dont you? And only yesterday you said: Which is why i suggested there is no mention of the EU for two weeks. Lets see who "mewls" first. And, entirely predictably, it was you. Whod'a thunk it?🤣 |
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