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Post by oracle75 on Aug 27, 2023 9:35:12 GMT
Now we have found Nadine, is she right about Rishi?
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 27, 2023 10:00:24 GMT
Sunak is your usual diverse virtue signalling woke tick box choice to replace Truss, hand picked out of the 'Remoaners'.
He is not the Tory voter choice to lead, he's the Remoaner chosen one, that's why he's doing nothing that a Tory leader 'should' be doing.
They are handing Labour the keys to No.10, and I suspect, as I've said before it's a remoaner cross party plot to get Labour/Starmer/Blair getting the ball rolling to rejoin the EU.
Because the current Tories are gutless wonders, who have no balls, and they don't want us to see them for the cowards they really are, backing down to the EU, so they are happy to let Labour do their dirty work for them ..... and them accuse them of betraying the people ....... LOL .. you can see it coming a mile off.
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 27, 2023 10:12:10 GMT
Right.
Now can we actually discuss the subject and OP?
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 27, 2023 10:13:23 GMT
Right. Now can we actually discuss the subject and OP? I'm not sure what the OP is on about then, it's not very clear. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 27, 2023 10:13:56 GMT
I assumed it was about slagging off Sunak?
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Post by Steve on Aug 27, 2023 10:15:12 GMT
Now we have found Nadine, is she right about Rishi? No She just doesn't like the things he has achieved EG the deal with the EU over the NI protocol andreversing the financial calamity of Trussonomics. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 27, 2023 10:15:40 GMT
Right. Now can we actually discuss the subject and OP? He did..and more. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 27, 2023 10:19:55 GMT
Now we have found Nadine, is she right about Rishi? No She just doesn't like the things he has achieved EG the deal with the EU over the NI protocol andreversing the financial calamity of Trussonomics. I suspect that there were two Brexit camps in the Tories. The Singapore on Thames camp and the BRINO camp. This was never going to end well. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 27, 2023 10:21:06 GMT
Tories stabbing each other in the back. Nothing changes from this immoral government.
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Post by Steve on Aug 27, 2023 10:22:36 GMT
No She just doesn't like the things he has achieved EG the deal with the EU over the NI protocol andreversing the financial calamity of Trussonomics. I suspect that there were two Brexit camps in the Tories. The Singapore on Thames camp and the BRINO camp. This was never going to end well. yep at least two I think Sunak is in the make the best of a mess, mustn't offend too many back benchers club |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 27, 2023 10:35:15 GMT
The question is whether Rishi's government is a zombie government, as suggested by Nadine.
Ie it is an empty presence that creates negative results.
It was not about how Rishi got to be PM or the well known schism in the Tory party.
If i have to i will ask it a different way.
Has the current Tory party done anything useful, positive and beneficial to the UK or has it been an empty exercise in governance, perhaps even a negative influence.
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 27, 2023 10:37:41 GMT
The question is whether Rishi's government is a zombie government, as suggested by Nadine. Ie it is an empty presence that creates negative results. It was not about how Rishi got to be PM or the well known schism in the Tory party. If i have to i will ask it a different way. Has the current Tory party done anything useful, positive and beneficial to the UK or has it been an empty exercise in governance, perhaps even a negative influence. Well in that case my post still stands, because that is what I addressed quite clearly in it. |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 27, 2023 10:39:15 GMT
For the last 13 years the Tories have governed as a continuation of New Labour - so have they achieved anything?. Well that probably depends on what side of the fence you sit.
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 27, 2023 10:48:43 GMT
For the last 13 years the Tories have governed as a continuation of New Labour - so have they achieved anything?. Well that probably depends on what side of the fence you sit. Can you name anything in particular that they have actually achieved and which were not just good intentions? |
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Post by Steve on Aug 27, 2023 10:50:00 GMT
They got rid of Gordon Brown as PM
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