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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 3, 2022 13:41:36 GMT
As an aside, I bet nobody can guess (without looking it up) what the first ever international sporting match in 1844 was. thought it was rugby but just looked it up... Surprising isn't it? Cricket was huge in America until the Civil War. Unfortunately a combination of highly mobile troops and cricket needing a prepared pitch to play meant soldiers switched to the old English game of baseball which could be played on any surface. Follow up question, which nation won gold on the only occasion cricket was included at the Olympic games? |
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Post by thomas on Nov 3, 2022 13:45:37 GMT
thought it was rugby but just looked it up... Surprising isn't it? Cricket was huge in America until the Civil War. Unfortunately a combination of highly mobile troops and cricket needing a prepared pitch to play meant soldiers switched to the old English game of baseball which could be played on any surface. Follow up question, which nation won gold on the only occasion cricket was included at the Olympic games? Monte you are asking the wrong guy. Cricket isnt popular in scotland .
Im guessing britain ( region) as the uk state doesnt compete at the olympics due to the irish situation .
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Post by Vinny on Nov 3, 2022 13:48:29 GMT
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 3, 2022 13:51:50 GMT
Surprising isn't it? Cricket was huge in America until the Civil War. Unfortunately a combination of highly mobile troops and cricket needing a prepared pitch to play meant soldiers switched to the old English game of baseball which could be played on any surface. Follow up question, which nation won gold on the only occasion cricket was included at the Olympic games? Monte you are asking the wrong guy. Cricket isnt popular in scotland .
Im guessing britain ( region) as the uk state doesnt compete at the olympics due to the irish situation .
The team is officially known as the Great Britain and Northern Ireland Olympic Team. Athletes from the United Kingdom, all but three of its Overseas Territories, and the three Crown Dependencies, can compete in the Olympic Games as part of Team GB. Athletes from Northern Ireland (part of the UK) can also choose to compete as part of Team Ireland instead (though most sports in NI are organised on an all-Ireland basis). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain_at_the_Olympics |
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Post by thomas on Nov 3, 2022 13:55:08 GMT
Monte you are asking the wrong guy. Cricket isnt popular in scotland .
Im guessing britain ( region) as the uk state doesnt compete at the olympics due to the irish situation .
The team is officially known as the Great Britain and Northern Ireland Olympic Team. Athletes from the United Kingdom, all but three of its Overseas Territories, and the three Crown Dependencies, can compete in the Olympic Games as part of Team GB. Athletes from Northern Ireland (part of the UK) can also choose to compete as part of Team Ireland instead (though most sports in NI are organised on an all-Ireland basis). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain_at_the_OlympicsAye i thought i read that somewhere they had to change the original name with the olympics commitee and that uk citizens in northern ireland compete for the whole of ireland if they choose to.
Bit of a mish mash.
As ever.
I personally only support scotland at sport , no one else , including britian or uk .
Interesting stuff though.
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Post by Steve on Nov 3, 2022 13:58:30 GMT
Oh do actually read what I post instead of imagining it I am . See my replies .
You , a non welshman , are arguing and putting up reason for the welsh not to call their team cymru because for some strange reason you wont divulge it upsets you?
Now as the thread develops , you are trying to run away from your deeply held position because you are being confronted with the silliness and arrogance of it?
Your replies matter not if you can't actually quote me saying what you suppose I said. So far you haven't |
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Post by Steve on Nov 3, 2022 14:02:15 GMT
Vinny no one else wants it or agrees with you in any numbers.
Without holding a vote, you don't know. I used to hear the same thing about Brexit at one time, yet here we are. But you've failed to show any polls that would indicate a majority of Scots (or Welsh or N.Irish) would want to lose their individual nation representation. Just that if an English weighted majority wanted them to give up those rights then they'd have to. Oppressive |
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 3, 2022 14:03:34 GMT
I will always cheer for any Home Nation team playing anyone but England.
I will also cheer on a Commonwealth nation against any other non-Commonwealth side.
God Save the King.
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Post by thomas on Nov 3, 2022 14:13:29 GMT
I am . See my replies .
You , a non welshman , are arguing and putting up reason for the welsh not to call their team cymru because for some strange reason you wont divulge it upsets you?
Now as the thread develops , you are trying to run away from your deeply held position because you are being confronted with the silliness and arrogance of it?
Your replies matter not if you can't actually quote me saying what you suppose I said. So far you haven't Sad steve you have to resort to such poor wriggling on that hook you are on.
I think the nuance of the discussion and debate between us is clear. Despite not being welsh , having no apparent welsh support , and merely sticking your uninformed oar in as an outsider as you appear to be british , you dont support the welsh fa changing their football teams name to cymru.
I disagree , despite not being welsh.
There we have it.
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Post by Vinny on Nov 3, 2022 14:21:07 GMT
Polls are based on leading questions and assumptions of pollsters.
There's only one way to find out for certain and that is to hold an actual vote.
That requires years, possibly decades of parties arguing their case and winning people over.
It's not something that would happen overnight.
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Post by thomas on Nov 3, 2022 14:29:57 GMT
Polls are based on leading questions and assumptions of pollsters. There's only one way to find out for certain and that is to hold an actual vote. That requires years, possibly decades of parties arguing their case and winning people over. It's not something that would happen overnight. ok. Should i agree with you or disagree with what you are saying.? Im unclear of what response you want?
Arent you the one arguing for change in this thread regarding doing away with the constituent nations sporting teams ,and everyone else more or less saying they disagree with you?
Its up to you to change opinons , and so far in this thread you havent . you are a lone voice as i said in the wilderness.
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Post by thomas on Nov 3, 2022 14:38:20 GMT
Polls are based on leading questions and assumptions of pollsters. There's only one way to find out for certain and that is to hold an actual vote. That requires years, possibly decades of parties arguing their case and winning people over. It's not something that would happen overnight. vinny you have had three hundred years to turn this union into something we all embrace. In that time , the scots and irish have had armed movements for independence ,atrocities have been commited to stop them , the irish finally left a hundred years ago , and both welsh and scottish political movements sprung up in that time as well.
On top of that , we had thirty years of troubles in the northern irish sectarian apartheid state , thousands of killings , the international community having to come in and get involved to broker peace , majorites wanting devolution at the least , and now we are on the verge of breaking up the union with a political majority in scotland wanting independence , and unionism losing its majority in northern ireland with the welsh making noises too.
How much longer do you want to convince us?
sorry , my patience is over. End the union.
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Post by Vinny on Nov 3, 2022 14:49:55 GMT
There is no majority in Scotland for "independence" 2m are against it.
Less than 1.4m of the 1.6m who voted for it last time are voting SNP.
The Union is here to stay.
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Post by Steve on Nov 3, 2022 14:52:06 GMT
Your replies matter not if you can't actually quote me saying what you suppose I said. So far you haven't Sad steve you have to resort to such poor wriggling on that hook you are on.
I think the nuance of the discussion and debate between us is clear. Despite not being welsh , having no apparent welsh support , and merely sticking your uninformed oar in as an outsider as you appear to be british , you dont support the welsh fa changing their football teams name to cymru.
I disagree , despite not being welsh.
There we have it.
Look can you point to me actually saying the things you allege I said or not? What you imagine I said has no value. |
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Post by Steve on Nov 3, 2022 14:54:32 GMT
Polls are based on leading questions and assumptions of pollsters. There's only one way to find out for certain and that is to hold an actual vote. That requires years, possibly decades of parties arguing their case and winning people over. It's not something that would happen overnight. You really want a national referendum on sports team representation. Even though there's no indicated support for any change?  |
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