Suella's knickers are showing

Creative but doesnt wash Orac.

Try again.

Czn you not read?
Your government's definition of asylym seeker is, i quote,

"Asylum is protection given by a country to someone fleeing from persecution in their own country."

Please pay careful attention to the words " THEIR OWN COUNTRY".

Not someone else's.

Please note:



The UK Government’s position is that refugees should claim asylum in the first safe country they reach. The UN Refugee Agency says this is not required by the Refugee Convention or international law.

People who have passed through a safe country can nevertheless be denied access to the UK asylum system. The law allows the Home Secretary to declare an asylum claim inadmissible if the person “has a connection to a safe third State”.

commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9724/


"A connection."
A family member. What other connection can there be?

And here again we have this UK government behaving like a rogue state, trying to change laws that apply to every other UN member state.

It is embarrassing. You would think the UK is the only place that has migrant problems.

Asylum seekers will choose the best country for them, language will play a major part. To that extent maybe the UK is paying a penalty for the spreading of UK peoples DNA along with the English language over a number of centuries in the past?

Don't get me wrong, I suspect the mass immigration of alien cultures and religions into Europe could possibly cause some devastating problems in the future.

I would support a grown up system where people seeking asylum in Europe were fairly distributed between the countries of Europe having regard to the claimants individual circumstances, Pacifico.  I sense you wouldn't.  

It doesn't really matter what the legal definition is because my argument is entirely moral, rather than legal, in nature.

Any special moral status that is attendant upon a need to escape some danger, logically dissipates when you arrive at safety. It's simple stuff.

To put it more directly, whatever the legality may be, these people are frauds and you are attempting to aid a fraud against the people of the UK.

Au contraire - I want us to take in real asylum seekers direct from the worlds trouble-spots in a managed way. Not take in those who have the money to pay to be smuggled in from safe countries.

What Orac really means is that those who have suffeted, through no fzult of their own ans even someyimes the fault of his own country, have to accept spending the rest of their lives as displaced and unwilling pawns of someone else's country they didnt want to be in.
That the fact that a large number of Somalians and Sudanese travel through Libya and Egypt and have no rights in either, have to stay there.
I am beginning to see where Suella got her inspiration from.

Thank goodness Orac who has never had escape torture and abuse anywhere, is powerless to do anything but make wishes.