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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 20, 2023 12:17:29 GMT
No. Like almost everyone else in here your anlysis has been thoroughly discredited by fact and link. And up your nonsense pops again as if reality doesnt exist and you refuse to move out of lalaland. So no.i am not here to do repeat classes for those who cant keep two thoughts in their head at the same time. It has been explained to you that the migrants are NOT illegal if they claim asylum. Their legal status is for the receiving country to assess and that is what is costing the UK so much money. It has been explained to you that other countries must make these decisions within 6 months. And manage to do so. So when i see you opening your post with lies and calling them illegal, which you must know are lies because you have been corrected enough tiimes, i refuse to do it all over again. You have prewritten phrases you insert at will and sound like a parrot. You refuse to acknowledge you are wrong but assume that if you repeat them, they might be true. Or you are just playing a game and are happy to tell any lies it takes to counter the truth. You claim to have discredited my posts 'by fact and link'. I'm at a loss to see where. Would you be good enough to point it out? And please, be specific... Oracle, ORACLE... |
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Post by sheepy on Aug 20, 2023 12:56:01 GMT
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 20, 2023 14:47:55 GMT
No. Like almost everyone else in here your anlysis has been thoroughly discredited by fact and link. And up your nonsense pops again as if reality doesnt exist and you refuse to move out of lalaland. So no.i am not here to do repeat classes for those who cant keep two thoughts in their head at the same time. It has been explained to you that the migrants are NOT illegal if they claim asylum. Their legal status is for the receiving country to assess and that is what is costing the UK so much money. It has been explained to you that other countries must make these decisions within 6 months. And manage to do so. So when i see you opening your post with lies and calling them illegal, which you must know are lies because you have been corrected enough tiimes, i refuse to do it all over again. You have prewritten phrases you insert at will and sound like a parrot. You refuse to acknowledge you are wrong but assume that if you repeat them, they might be true. Or you are just playing a game and are happy to tell any lies it takes to counter the truth. You claim to have discredited my posts 'by fact and link'. I'm at a loss to see where. Would you be good enough to point it out? And please, be specific... Oracle, ORACLE... Throughout my presence here. I am not here to do your homework. Would you like to address the principal thrust of my post you quoted? Or just whimper a sort of pathetic challenge to a minor point ? Perhaps you could keep up with what is written in the posts you reply to and address them fully. Even better, remember what the facts are and not merely ignore them. Are you one of those children who thought if you hide your eyes, the world would go away? |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 20, 2023 14:53:56 GMT
AH! Here comes Rishi Goodheart on his charger to do the migrants such humanitarian work as to save them from drowning. He would rather they stay in their owb country where they are raped, tortured and murdered. Then he can forget them and claim political brownie points. And so can you. Such a kind caring man. |
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Post by sheepy on Aug 20, 2023 15:07:35 GMT
AH! Here comes Rishi Goodheart on his charger to do the migrants such humanitarian work as to save them from drowning. He would rather they stay in their owb country where they are raped, tortured and murdered. Then he can forget them and claim political brownie points. And so can you. Such a kind caring man. Are you announcing being caring is just another way of being stupid? As the last 4 decades might well say so, so we might be in agreement. |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 20, 2023 15:17:10 GMT
No. Like almost everyone else in here your anlysis has been thoroughly discredited by fact and link. And up your nonsense pops again as if reality doesnt exist and you refuse to move out of lalaland. So no.i am not here to do repeat classes for those who cant keep two thoughts in their head at the same time. It has been explained to you that the migrants are NOT illegal if they claim asylum. Their legal status is for the receiving country to assess and that is what is costing the UK so much money. It has been explained to you that other countries must make these decisions within 6 months. And manage to do so. So when i see you opening your post with lies and calling them illegal, which you must know are lies because you have been corrected enough tiimes, i refuse to do it all over again. You have prewritten phrases you insert at will and sound like a parrot. You refuse to acknowledge you are wrong but assume that if you repeat them, they might be true. Or you are just playing a game and are happy to tell any lies it takes to counter the truth. Oh my god, this is akin to banging your head of a hard surface. For the benefit of pro EU lefties and the mentally challenged, I will say this again. Anyone who pays a people trafficker to get them from safe country 'A' to safe country 'B' and destroys all identifying documentation in the process is, regardless of which country they are in, a criminal. I will add, are you aware that the EU are considering changing the law to make it mandatory for anyone who claims asylum to do so in the first safe country they arrive in. If this happens, I suspect you will still insist that illegals crossing the channel are poor downtrodden refugees/asylum seekers fleeing war torn France. There is no such law anywhere which declares a migrant with no papers a criminal. If there is please cite it. The EU has just passed legislation agreeing to equitable sharing out of the migrant pressure. NOT THE FIRST SAFE COUNTRY THEY COME TO. Italy and Greece would never allow it. From the summary: The APR also introduces mandatory border procedures, with the purpose to quickly assess at the EU’s external borders whether applications are unfounded or inadmissible. Persons subject to the asylum border procedure are not authorised to enter the member state’s territory. Snip There will be a minimum annual number for relocations from member states where most persons enter the EU to member states less exposed to such arrivals. The whole summary is here: www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2023/06/08/migration-policy-council-reaches-agreement-on-key-asylum-and-migration-laws/The last section is about asylum serkers xho shop around. They will be obliged to stay in their country of application for a minimum of 2 years. The propisals arecat Council stage. It has to be approv3d, pass3d to theCommission to check for legality in all 27 constitutions and feasibility studies. Eventuzlly written up in all lznguzg4s and submitted for approval by vote to each national parliament, the EU parliament and finally back to the council for approval . Because the EU is not democratic. And the unelected Commission is a dictatorship. 😂😂 Finally.... RED...LOOK...A LINK AND QUOTES! Never mind. None of this will stop them rocking up on your shores. The proposals dont include you. |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 20, 2023 15:22:57 GMT
AH! Here comes Rishi Goodheart on his charger to do the migrants such humanitarian work as to save them from drowning. He would rather they stay in their owb country where they are raped, tortured and murdered. Then he can forget them and claim political brownie points. And so can you. Such a kind caring man. Are you announcing being caring is just another way of being stupid? As the last 4 decades might well say so, so we might be in agreement. Saying you are being racist for your own good is a sick joke and helps you get reelected. The UK government pretends to be shipping illegal asylum seekers to Rwanda without allowing them back if they are approved is I suggest illegal. The Supreme Court is deciding. This whole politucal blshit about caring if they drown in the Channel is a cartload of crap. It just tries to polish a turd. |
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Post by sheepy on Aug 20, 2023 15:35:40 GMT
Are you announcing being caring is just another way of being stupid? As the last 4 decades might well say so, so we might be in agreement. Saying you are being racist for your own good is a sick joke and helps you get reelected. The UK government pretends to be shipping illegal asylum seekers to Rwanda without allowing them back if they are approved is I suggest illegal. The Supreme Court is deciding. This whole politucal blshit about caring if they drown in the Channel is a cartload of crap. It just tries to polish a turd. Well being the caring type, as nobody actually wants them and caring for other peoples feelings if a bunch of criminals drown in the channel it is hardly my fault or Rishi Sunaks for that matter. But it would seem fair to house them on a barge even if they have cheated everyone else using others feelings, until we sort out who is who and immediately deport the rest. All this Rwanda business is of course a complete red herring. Not that I like sticking up for Rishi as he even cheated the Conservative voters to get where he is. |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 20, 2023 15:46:20 GMT
I am inclined to agree with uou although you are more forgiving of the Tory mind than I am.
My impression is formed by Patel and Braverman who, i think, wish they would all drown in the Channel.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 20, 2023 17:59:57 GMT
You claim to have discredited my posts 'by fact and link'. I'm at a loss to see where. Would you be good enough to point it out? And please, be specific... Oracle, ORACLE... Throughout my presence here. I am not here to do your homework. Would you like to address the principal thrust of my post you quoted? Or just whimper a sort of pathetic challenge to a minor point ? Perhaps you could keep up with what is written in the posts you reply to and address them fully. Even better, remember what the facts are and not merely ignore them. Are you one of those children who thought if you hide your eyes, the world would go away? LOL, superb. So lets count them up, all the links you have provided that have discredited my wise words of wisdom... Ahh, there seems to be a problem! Of course, you havent posted the list yet, apologies patience is not a virtue I was blessed with. Not to worry, you're probably still searching. |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 20, 2023 18:03:21 GMT
Oh grow up.
And stop stalking me.
You spend your time posting superficial ansmd off topic replies to my posts. Like the one above.
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Post by jonksy on Aug 20, 2023 18:14:48 GMT
100% correct of course... Ex-Border Force boss accuses EUSSR of fuelling migrant crisis as 'Brexit punishment'
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 20, 2023 18:26:02 GMT
Oh grow up. And stop stalking me. You spend your time posting superficial ansmd off topic replies to my posts. Like the one above. How very dare you, a lefty europhile, accuse me of stalking you! You should be so bloody lucky. Having said that, there's a trend here. I have noticed that people who tend to shout about being stalked are usually running away because they cant provide answers to spurious claims. That list btw, I suspect you're still working on it?  |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 20, 2023 18:27:02 GMT
Oh dont start the punishment idiocy again.
The EU is getting on with dealing with its own issues.
You are not included because you left.
Nor AFAIK have you asked to be included.
The EU cannot legally make laws which include you.
You voted for it.
Now stop sulking and deal with your own borders
That is what you wanted.
Now accept that no one in the EU takes you into account. We are respecting your wishes.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 20, 2023 18:29:14 GMT
100% correct of course... Ex-Border Force boss accuses EUSSR of fuelling migrant crisis as 'Brexit punishment'
Excellent link Jonksy... ... Sulking EU chiefs are prolonging the migrant boats crisis as a punishment for Brexit.And the sad fact is everyone in the world can see it. |
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It doesn't matter what the French do, Rishi has created a success?
