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Post by buccaneer on Aug 18, 2023 7:35:08 GMT
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 18, 2023 7:54:50 GMT
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Post by jonksy on Aug 18, 2023 7:56:25 GMT
You couldn't make it up mate. The Frogs haven't even stopped 50% of this criminal dross. Why the feck we have a navy is anyone's guess.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2023 9:05:32 GMT
I agree, but it is wishful thinking, Buccy.
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 18, 2023 10:14:17 GMT
So not only do the French Navy aid and abet these illegals from French waters into English waters. Their government are robbing the British taxpayer colossal amounts of money for their laziness.
I don't think you can blame the French. If our government is daft enough to hand over £500 million without any performance penalty for failure to meet targets why should the frogs bust a gut?
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 18, 2023 13:21:24 GMT
We should be using the money to sue France for their failure to enforce their own immigration rules.
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 18, 2023 15:39:41 GMT
We should be using the money to sue France for their failure to enforce their own immigration rules. Under which jurisdiction?
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 18, 2023 16:33:37 GMT
We should be using the money to sue France for their failure to enforce their own immigration rules. We should spend the money on something more useful and leave the frogs alone to do their own thing - flights to Ascension Island perhaps?
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Post by jonksy on Aug 18, 2023 21:16:12 GMT
A former Frog ambassador, Sylvie Bermann, has criticised the UK's promise to stop migrants crossing the English Channel as "totally delusionary." She pointed out that Frog authorities are intercepting fewer migrants this year compared to the past. Bermann, who was envoy to the UK from 2014 to 2017, said it's hard to control the 90-mile coastline used by human traffickers. She blamed the lack of safe routes for seeking asylum in the UK and the better job prospects there. Despite a £480 million deal to improve patrols, Frog police have caught fewer migrants this year. Figures from the Hauts-de-France region show that 13,759 migrants were stopped between January and mid-August, down from 17,032 last year. So far this year, more than 17,000 migrants have made the crossing, a decrease from last year's 20,000.
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 18, 2023 21:32:42 GMT
I agree with her. Those who think they can "stop the boats" are delusional. You only have to read half the posts on this forum. That doesn't necessarily mean we shouldn't have a deal with France, but you need to do a cost benefit analysis to see what the values is.
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 19, 2023 7:14:24 GMT
This has been discussed elsewhere.
France is not responsible in any legal way for these people who have no connection to France. Unless you station someone every 20 metres and behind every sand dune along an 800 mile coast, you wont stop them. It is not illlegzl to hid3 a bozt on a French beach and put to sea in it. If some migrants are discoveted and taken into custody, what will they be charged with? They have an international right to find asylum IN ANY COUNTRY THEY CHOOSE.
You votzd to come out of Dublin 3 which was an agreement to return migrants to France. You vetoed an agreement to try to spread the load of the number of migrants landing in Europe. The chickens have come home to roost. You voted for sovereignty and independence. Control of your own borders.
So get on with it. It is not France's job to protect your borders.
Take your money and take your issues home. It isnt our problem.
And stop blaming everyone else for your pathetic Home Office utter failure to carry out a major Brexit promise. One which intelligent people knew was another lie.
You want to be independent? It isnt all flag waving and nose thumbing. Start acting like an independent country and stop blaming everyone else for your failures.
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Post by sheepy on Aug 19, 2023 7:16:59 GMT
France is not responsible in any legal way for these people who have no connection to France. Neither are we, but now you have to struggle making out we do.
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 19, 2023 7:39:28 GMT
France is not responsible in any legal way for these people who have no connection to France. Neither are we, but now you have to struggle making out we do. As a signatory to the 1951/65 UN Convention on Refgees every signatory nation has a legal responsibility to offer asylum to anyone requesting it. Now you either throw that overboard...hugely difficult and long winded and expensive or you do something in your own Home Office. There is your pathetic waste of money. And run by two consecutive racists posing as acting in the patriotic and communal interests of the UK. Many countries have a time limit to process asylum applicants. Not the UK. Why? Because strangers make wonderful populist distractions from issues such as the seriously heinous waste of money for HS2, Or the now buried corruption during Covid. The problems are all in your Home Office. Not in France. Control YOUR border. It isnt France's responsibility.
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Post by sheepy on Aug 19, 2023 7:45:20 GMT
France is not responsible in any legal way for these people who have no connection to France. Neither are we, but now you have to struggle making out we do. As a signatory to the 1951/65 UN Convention on Refgees every signatory nation has a legal responsibility to offer asylum to anyone requesting it. Now you either throw that overboard...hugely difficult and long winded and expensive or you do something in your own Home Office. There is your pathetic waste of money. And run by two consecutive racists posing as acting in the patriotic and communal interests of the UK. Many countries have a time limit to process asylum applicants. Not the UK. Why? Because strangers make wonderful populist distractions from issues such as the seriously heinous waste of money for HS2, Or the now buried corruption during Covid. The problems are all in your Home Office. Not in France. Control YOUR border. It isnt France's responsibility. lol and around in circles we go.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 19, 2023 11:00:15 GMT
We should be using the money to sue France for their failure to enforce their own immigration rules. Under which jurisdiction? We should be stopping illegals entering British territorial waters.
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