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Post by oracle75 on Aug 19, 2023 12:29:40 GMT
I get the distinct impression that he would LOVE to be able to say he fulfilled one of his five pledges far more than second guessing how the EU feels about him.
BTW the EU doesnt care what the UK does about its own migration issues. We have enough of our own.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 19, 2023 12:59:12 GMT
I get the distinct impression that he would LOVE to be able to say he fulfilled one of his five pledges far more than second guessing how the EU feels about him. BTW the EU doesnt care what the UK does about its own migration issues. We have enough of our own. Yes indeed, more than a hint of double standards, doncha think? The EU are desperate to stop the flood of cross Med illegals, but turn a blind eye to cross channel illegals. On the bright side, at least the world can see what the EU are really like. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 19, 2023 13:52:42 GMT
This has been discussed elsewhere. France is not responsible in any legal way for these people who have no connection to France. Unless you station someone every 20 metres and behind every sand dune along an 800 mile coast, you wont stop them. It is not illlegzl to hid3 a bozt on a French beach and put to sea in it. If some migrants are discoveted and taken into custody, what will they be charged with? They have an international right to find asylum IN ANY COUNTRY THEY CHOOSE. You votzd to come out of Dublin 3 which was an agreement to return migrants to France. You vetoed an agreement to try to spread the load of the number of migrants landing in Europe. The chickens have come home to roost. You voted for sovereignty and independence. Control of your own borders. So get on with it. It is not France's job to protect your borders. Take your money and take your issues home. It isnt our problem. And stop blaming everyone else for your pathetic Home Office utter failure to carry out a major Brexit promise. One which intelligent people knew was another lie. You want to be independent? It isnt all flag waving and nose thumbing. Start acting like an independent country and stop blaming everyone else for your failures. so we can shoot them snd france can’t whinge about it Fine by me. |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 19, 2023 16:28:33 GMT
I get the distinct impression that he would LOVE to be able to say he fulfilled one of his five pledges far more than second guessing how the EU feels about him. BTW the EU doesnt care what the UK does about its own migration issues. We have enough of our own. Yes indeed, more than a hint of double standards, doncha think? The EU are desperate to stop the flood of cross Med illegals, but turn a blind eye to cross channel illegals. On the bright side, at least the world can see what the EU are really like. Cross channel migrants are YOUR problem. Not ours. You wanted the training wheels taken off. Now stop crying because you fell off. If you really wanted to help, sod off to Syria and stand sentry at their border. And blockade Albania while you are at it. |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 19, 2023 16:31:35 GMT
This has been discussed elsewhere. France is not responsible in any legal way for these people who have no connection to France. Unless you station someone every 20 metres and behind every sand dune along an 800 mile coast, you wont stop them. It is not illlegzl to hid3 a bozt on a French beach and put to sea in it. If some migrants are discoveted and taken into custody, what will they be charged with? They have an international right to find asylum IN ANY COUNTRY THEY CHOOSE. You votzd to come out of Dublin 3 which was an agreement to return migrants to France. You vetoed an agreement to try to spread the load of the number of migrants landing in Europe. The chickens have come home to roost. You voted for sovereignty and independence. Control of your own borders. So get on with it. It is not France's job to protect your borders. Take your money and take your issues home. It isnt our problem. And stop blaming everyone else for your pathetic Home Office utter failure to carry out a major Brexit promise. One which intelligent people knew was another lie. You want to be independent? It isnt all flag waving and nose thumbing. Start acting like an independent country and stop blaming everyone else for your failures. so we can shoot them snd france can’t whinge about it Fine by me. Go ahead. They arent our problem. But when you start blaming us for YOUR problem, is when we might get a little upset. Most of the time we ignore you. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 19, 2023 16:36:18 GMT
Yes indeed, more than a hint of double standards, doncha think? The EU are desperate to stop the flood of cross Med illegals, but turn a blind eye to cross channel illegals. On the bright side, at least the world can see what the EU are really like. Cross channel migrants are YOUR problem. Not ours. You wanted the training wheels taken off. Now stop crying because you fell off. If you really wanted to help, sod off to Syria and stand sentry at their border. And blockade Albania while you are at it. Quite clearly you are right, cross channel illegals from the EU are indeed our problem, but that's only because the government refuse to implement international law. |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 19, 2023 16:50:12 GMT
You know you have this dumb habit of putting something out there, havinf it explained to you in relatively sim0le terms and as if yoy nzver read the reply, carry on as if it is as you understand it to be.
Like most of those who still support Brexit, you believed every lying undefined fairytale you were told and still dont understand either how the world works or why it isnt the way you imagine it.
You live in Oz, and no, you aint gonna get a new heart or , unfortunately, a new brain.
I do, however, find it cowardly not to recognise the harsh realities of life.
No one gives a toss about your migrants. We have millions of our own to consider.
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 20, 2023 8:55:19 GMT
You know you have this dumb habit of putting something out there, havinf it explained to you in relatively sim0le terms and as if yoy nzver read the reply, carry on as if it is as you understand it to be. Like most of those who still support Brexit, you believed every lying undefined fairytale you were told and still dont understand either how the world works or why it isnt the way you imagine it. You live in Oz, and no, you aint gonna get a new heart or , unfortunately, a new brain. I do, however, find it cowardly not to recognise the harsh realities of life. No one gives a toss about your migrants. We have millions of our own to consider. well yes, you tried arresting those scum in Sangatte’s ‘jungle’ and somehow a bunch of lawyers rocked up and bust every one out of jail and then miraculously vanished. See, i was working for part of France Telecom at the time, out of offices on the outskirts of Calais and so i think i know exactly ‘how’ it works.. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 20, 2023 9:28:37 GMT
You know you have this dumb habit of putting something out there, havinf it explained to you in relatively sim0le terms and as if yoy nzver read the reply, carry on as if it is as you understand it to be. Like most of those who still support Brexit, you believed every lying undefined fairytale you were told and still dont understand either how the world works or why it isnt the way you imagine it. You live in Oz, and no, you aint gonna get a new heart or , unfortunately, a new brain. I do, however, find it cowardly not to recognise the harsh realities of life. No one gives a toss about your migrants. We have millions of our own to consider. I will assume the first paragraph is written in some sort of code. The only way the illegal invasion from the EU has anything to do with Brexit is the fact that the EU insist we must be punished for it. Since the unelected presidents and commissars have decreed that all member states will take a minimum of 30,000 illegals a year or face huge fines, then regarding illegals it's pretty obvious that if we were still in the unelected empire there would be no small boats crossing the channel because the unelected presidents and commissars would issue a diktat instructing the UK government to send ferries to pick em up or of course, face huge fines. And yes you do indeed have millions of illegals, illegals that the vast majority people did not want and are causing huge problems. Your unelected presidents and commissars are at long last realising that flooding Europe with illegals is not very popular, who knew. So they are at last making efforts to stop boats crossing the Mediterranean, perhaps this is because across the EU, anti immigrant right wing parties are gaining ground which is why German president Steinmeier wants AfD banned, or perhaps it's because EU migrant detention centres are full? Who knows. All we do know is the EU have fucked up large, they opened the immigrant floodgates and now they cant close them. You must be very proud. |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 20, 2023 11:20:31 GMT
There is nothing in the above except your own creation.
I am not prepated to discuss your imagination.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 20, 2023 11:21:35 GMT
There is nothing in the above except your own creation. I am not prepated to discuss your imagination. LOL, run Oracle run... |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 20, 2023 11:22:37 GMT
You know you have this dumb habit of putting something out there, havinf it explained to you in relatively sim0le terms and as if yoy nzver read the reply, carry on as if it is as you understand it to be. Like most of those who still support Brexit, you believed every lying undefined fairytale you were told and still dont understand either how the world works or why it isnt the way you imagine it. You live in Oz, and no, you aint gonna get a new heart or , unfortunately, a new brain. I do, however, find it cowardly not to recognise the harsh realities of life. No one gives a toss about your migrants. We have millions of our own to consider. well yes, you tried arresting those scum in Sangatte’s ‘jungle’ and somehow a bunch of lawyers rocked up and bust every one out of jail and then miraculously vanished. See, i was working for part of France Telecom at the time, out of offices on the outskirts of Calais and so i think i know exactly ‘how’ it works.. They moved up the coast. Surprise surprise. Seems logical to me. |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 20, 2023 11:27:46 GMT
There is nothing in the above except your own creation. I am not prepated to discuss your imagination. LOL, run Oracle run... No. Like almost everyone else in here your anlysis has been thoroughly discredited by fact and link. And up your nonsense pops again as if reality doesnt exist and you refuse to move out of lalaland. So no.i am not here to do repeat classes for those who cant keep two thoughts in their head at the same time. It has been explained to you that the migrants are NOT illegal if they claim asylum. Their legal status is for the receiving country to assess and that is what is costing the UK so much money. It has been explained to you that other countries must make these decisions within 6 months. And manage to do so. So when i see you opening your post with lies and calling them illegal, which you must know are lies because you have been corrected enough tiimes, i refuse to do it all over again. You have prewritten phrases you insert at will and sound like a parrot. You refuse to acknowledge you are wrong but assume that if you repeat them, they might be true. Or you are just playing a game and are happy to tell any lies it takes to counter the truth. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 20, 2023 12:07:51 GMT
No. Like almost everyone else in here your anlysis has been thoroughly discredited by fact and link. And up your nonsense pops again as if reality doesnt exist and you refuse to move out of lalaland. So no.i am not here to do repeat classes for those who cant keep two thoughts in their head at the same time. You claim to have discredited my posts 'by fact and link'. I'm at a loss to see where. Would you be good enough to point it out? And please, be specific... Ahh, I posted as you edited your origional post. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 20, 2023 12:16:05 GMT
No. Like almost everyone else in here your anlysis has been thoroughly discredited by fact and link. And up your nonsense pops again as if reality doesnt exist and you refuse to move out of lalaland. So no.i am not here to do repeat classes for those who cant keep two thoughts in their head at the same time. It has been explained to you that the migrants are NOT illegal if they claim asylum. Their legal status is for the receiving country to assess and that is what is costing the UK so much money. It has been explained to you that other countries must make these decisions within 6 months. And manage to do so. So when i see you opening your post with lies and calling them illegal, which you must know are lies because you have been corrected enough tiimes, i refuse to do it all over again. You have prewritten phrases you insert at will and sound like a parrot. You refuse to acknowledge you are wrong but assume that if you repeat them, they might be true. Or you are just playing a game and are happy to tell any lies it takes to counter the truth. Oh my god, this is akin to banging your head of a hard surface. For the benefit of pro EU lefties and the mentally challenged, I will say this again. Anyone who pays a people trafficker to get them from safe country 'A' to safe country 'B' and destroys all identifying documentation in the process is, regardless of which country they are in, a criminal. I will add, are you aware that the EU are considering changing the law to make it mandatory for anyone who claims asylum to do so in the first safe country they arrive in. If this happens, I suspect you will still insist that illegals crossing the channel are poor downtrodden refugees/asylum seekers fleeing war torn France. |
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