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Post by Handyman on Aug 14, 2023 9:24:55 GMT
My friend who is a Ukrainian refugee did not come without id. They are obliged to carry ID as far as I am aware, The Ukrainian identity card or Passport of the Citizen of Ukraine (also known as the Internal Passport or Passport Card) is an identity document issued to citizens of Ukraine. Every Ukrainian citizen aged 14[3] or above that permanently resides in Ukraine must possess an identity card issued by the State Migration Service of Ukraine. Ukrainian identity cards can be used as a travel document to enter Ukraine, Georgia (only if arriving from Ukraine), Moldova (only for purposes of local border traffic), and Turkey.[1] Identity cards are valid for 10 years (or 4 years, if issued for citizens aged between 14 and 18) and afterwards must be exchanged for a new document. |
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Post by jonksy on Aug 14, 2023 9:39:28 GMT
My friend who is a Ukrainian refugee did not come without id. They don't mate the only time they have no paperwork is when their lives became more important than the paperwork. Some of the bleeding hearts should try it sometime and they would know what it is all about then. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 14, 2023 9:46:22 GMT
Same reason those coming in boats don't have their documents, they fled. Eh? - last year the largest group coming in rubber boats were from Albania. WTF were they fleeing from, it's an EU candidate country FFS. I specifically made a thread on the discussion board to highlight 'Albania', for no other reason there is absolutely NO justification or validation for allowing Albanians asylum in the UK, the place is like Paradise . It's becoming a UK tourist trap, so why would people from the UK travel to this war torn terrible country, where they torture and threaten the life of its young fit healthy males .......... we are a laughingstock. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 14, 2023 10:19:48 GMT
Eh? - last year the largest group coming in rubber boats were from Albania. WTF were they fleeing from, it's an EU candidate country FFS. I specifically made a thread on the discussion board to highlight 'Albania', for no other reason there is absolutely NO justification or validation for allowing Albanians asylum in the UK, Albania is like Paradise . It's becoming a UK tourist trap, so why would people from the UK travel to this war torn terrible country, where they torture and threaten the life of its young fit healthy males .......... we are a laughingstock. |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 14, 2023 10:36:18 GMT
Perhaps if you stopped joining in with the americans in destabilising parts of the world , migrants wouldnt want to leave the burnt out shitholes you leave behind in iraq ,afhganistan , libya and syria etc.
What is this 'you'? - the decision to join the Yanks and invade Iraq was taken by a Scottish PM. |
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Post by sheepy on Aug 14, 2023 16:51:07 GMT
It seems someone has been sending us around in circles over illegal immigrants, those are migrants who have no right to be here unless asked for their skills. Which they can apply with those skills in tact. Me thinks they don't actually have any required skills at all and have other reasons for conning the system. What you are doing is confusing migrants with asylum seekers. You wish. I have explained the difference, or actually the refugee council did. |
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Post by thomas on Aug 15, 2023 6:36:16 GMT
the idea that the bibi stockholm farce is all part of some nasty scottish aggresive stance and nationalist plot to undermine your country is of course fucking hilarious.
No country in europe wants a tory run banana english republic on their doorstep . If anyone did want to undermine england , lets say russia , all they would have to do is keep handing the tory party large backhanders in brown envelopes..............oh fuck...wait!  As and when I work out what you are on about I may come back to you on your ramblings , but I think it may take a long time, I see the SNP are all paragons of light and virtue have they sorted out their accounts yet ? the Scottish Police are going through them with a fine toothed comb handyman , you attemped to shut me down by claiming my criticism of your tory parties ineptitude on immigration was some sort of "aggresive stance" towards your country. Ive lost count of the amount of times on these political forums over the years an englishman running out of braincells has accused me of being agggresive to england , or anti english in some way for simply debating somthing he cant argue against .
Immigration is reserved to your parliament , under the control of your tory party. While scotland is sadly part of this laughably entitled united kingdom , and that uk still passes itself off as a european democracy ,then i will have my say mate , and you wont shut me down.
We arent some colonial subjects who are banned from criticising the imperial parliament in london , and plenty of your fellow countrymen also agree with me regarding the farce that is conservative immigration policy , hence why they are looking at getting a severe kicking at the next election.
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Post by thomas on Aug 15, 2023 6:39:08 GMT
Perhaps if you stopped joining in with the americans in destabilising parts of the world , migrants wouldnt want to leave the burnt out shitholes you leave behind in iraq ,afhganistan , libya and syria etc.
What is this 'you'? - the decision to join the Yanks and invade Iraq was taken by a Scottish PM. let me educate you pacifico. If you are born in a stable it doesnt make you a horse .
Tony blair is british , he is one of you. Nationality is a mindset.
Thanks for the latest diversion though tory boy . What do you think though on the point regarding not destabilising parts of the world like syria , to help stop immigration into the west?
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 15, 2023 6:50:31 GMT
Tony Blair was born in Edinburgh - he is as much a Jock as you..
If Scotsmen stopped invading shithole countries in the Middle East we would all be better off.
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 15, 2023 7:15:51 GMT
What is this 'you'? - the decision to join the Yanks and invade Iraq was taken by a Scottish PM. let me educate you pacifico. If you are born in a stable it doesnt make you a horse .
Tony blair is british , he is one of you. Nationality is a mindset.
Thanks for the latest diversion though tory boy . What do you think though on the point regarding not destabilising parts of the world like syria , to help stop immigration into the west?
Tony Blair is one of your sorry lot. He is Scottish ffs. And that other fucking idiot is Scottish too. Gordon Brown. It was your fellow Jock, Blair who took the UK into Iraq on the back of very dubious dossiers. Two born Jocks who've done a lot of irreparable damage to the UK. |
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Post by thomas on Aug 15, 2023 7:18:58 GMT
Tony Blair was born in Edinburgh - he is as much a Jock as you.. If Scotsmen stopped invading shithole countries in the Middle East we would all be better off. you obviously didnt read my post. john stephenson was born in leytonstone london englandshire , but despite being born in a stable , he wasnt a horse , and that didnt stop him becoming irish by nationality , changing his name to sean mac stiofain , and becoming the IRAs chief of staff.
the irony of a guy from a country that has been invading scotland non stop since the 7th century , invading wales , ireland , France and three quarters of the world if not more , that is rich.
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 15, 2023 7:23:48 GMT
Tony Blair was born in Edinburgh - he is as much a Jock as you.. If Scotsmen stopped invading shithole countries in the Middle East we would all be better off. you obviously didnt read my post. john stephenson was born in leytonstone london englandshire , but despite being born in a stable , he wasnt a horse , and that didnt stop him becoming irish by nationality , changing his name to sean mac stiofain , and becoming the IRAs chief of staff.
LOL - you are going off the deep end again.. You cannot wish away your country of birth any more than you can wish away your sex - you have drunk too much of the SNP Kool-aid..  |
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Post by thomas on Aug 15, 2023 7:23:52 GMT
let me educate you pacifico. If you are born in a stable it doesnt make you a horse .
Tony blair is british , he is one of you. Nationality is a mindset.
Thanks for the latest diversion though tory boy . What do you think though on the point regarding not destabilising parts of the world like syria , to help stop immigration into the west?
Tony Blair is one of your sorry lot. He is Scottish ffs. And that other fucking idiot is Scottish too. Gordon Brown. It was your fellow Jock, Blair who took the UK into Iraq on the back of very dubious dossiers. Two born Jocks who've done a lot of irreparable damage to the UK. buccy , ive educated pacifico on the concept of nationality and it being a mindset. Blair sees himself as british by nationality.
Moving on though , we scottish didnt elect him. He was elected in your country , and represented an english constituency while joining your labour party in his time in london.
One day , the english will take responsibility for themselves and their politicians. When that day dawns , then you will be on the first step of the path to repair the damage done to your country by the british.
until then , we all just have to learn to laugh at it was the jocks , taffs paddies euroepans etc etc what done it schtick.
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Post by thomas on Aug 15, 2023 7:25:57 GMT
you obviously didnt read my post. john stephenson was born in leytonstone london englandshire , but despite being born in a stable , he wasnt a horse , and that didnt stop him becoming irish by nationality , changing his name to sean mac stiofain , and becoming the IRAs chief of staff.
You cannot wish away your country of birth any more than you can wish away your sex - you have drunk too much of the SNP Kool-aid.. hang on pacifico. According to you and your fellows , tony blair like myself is a british citizen and scotland is just a mere region of britian? Are you telling me ive been right all along ,and that britian doesnt exist , isnt a country , and scottish nationality is a real thing?
Fuck me. Are you seeing the light? |
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 15, 2023 7:38:53 GMT
Tony Blair is one of your sorry lot. He is Scottish ffs. And that other fucking idiot is Scottish too. Gordon Brown. It was your fellow Jock, Blair who took the UK into Iraq on the back of very dubious dossiers. Two born Jocks who've done a lot of irreparable damage to the UK. buccy , ive educated pacifico on the concept of nationality and it being a mindset. Blair sees himself as british by nationality.
Moving on though , we scottish didnt elect him. He was elected in your country , and represented an english constituency while joining your labour party in his time in london.
One day , the english will take responsibility for themselves and their politicians. When that day dawns , then you will be on the first step of the path to repair the damage done to your country by the british.
until then , we all just have to learn to laugh at it was the jocks , taffs paddies euroepans etc etc what done it schtick.
Sorry Thomas. Mental gymnastics won't disassociate you from your fellow Jock. I understand that many Scots like to distance themselves from people, places and things when it isn't too their advantage, but Tony Blair will always be born a Scot and he is one of yours. Perhaps when you're done pontificating about taking responsibility for oneself. You could follow your own advice and re-claim Tony Blair as a born Jock. |
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