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Post by Handyman on Aug 14, 2023 7:56:34 GMT
Eh? - last year the largest group coming in rubber boats were from Albania. WTF were they fleeing from, it's an EU candidate country FFS. The Albanians were returned, do keep up. More of your ill informed Bollocks Some have been returned to Albania after crossing the Channel and entering the UK unlawfully, some have walked out of the holding centres and disappeared into the woodwork still here, now running cannabis farms , selling drugs to pay for their passage across the channel right across the UK, how many got here undetected we do not know the Albanians are part of the International Organised Crime Syndicates Smuggling Gangs |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2023 8:01:45 GMT
The Albanians were returned, do keep up. More of your ill informed Bollocks Some have been returned to Albania after crossing the Channel and entering the UK unlawfully, some have walked out of the holding centres and disappeared into the woodwork still here, now running cannabis farms , selling drugs to pay for their passage across the channel right across the UK, how many got here undetected we do not know the Albanians are part of the International Organised Crime Syndicates Smuggling Gangs Who's fault is it that they walked out? |
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Post by jonksy on Aug 14, 2023 8:03:18 GMT
The Albanians were returned, do keep up. More of your ill informed Bollocks Some have been returned to Albania after crossing the Channel and entering the UK unlawfully, some have walked out of the holding centres and disappeared into the woodwork still here, now running cannabis farms , selling drugs to pay for their passage across the channel right across the UK, how many got here undetected we do not know the Albanians are part of the International Organised Crime Syndicates Smuggling Gangs And is business as usual according to the DM after a few of em got lit up. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2023 8:04:01 GMT
Do you honestly think that those fleeing Ukraine when Russia attacked had all their travel documents, passports, visas in place ready to go? They fled and lost all their possessions. Some fled by plane, and the UK was the first safe country. Passports are small and easy to have to hand. Refugees don't need visas. Yes, some did come by plane and had the correct documents some did not. There is the nub of it, the Ukrainians had safe and legal routes to come here but others do not have that option. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2023 8:05:31 GMT
The Albanians were returned, do keep up. Me thinks you are making random statements, because if they have been returned there certainly seems a lot of them who haven't been returned. We have an agreement with Albania. The fact that some are 'disappearing' into the woodwork is the Tories fault. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2023 8:06:33 GMT
Do you honestly think that those fleeing Ukraine when Russia attacked had all their travel documents, passports, visas in place ready to go? They fled and lost all their possessions. They didn't flee that fast that they forgot the £3500 they need for the payment to the traffickers.. So they had time to grab their money but not their passport - yep, thats me convinced. They did not carry the money, their families paid it for them. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2023 8:08:07 GMT
They didn't flee that fast that they forgot the £3500 they need for the payment to the traffickers.. So they had time to grab their money but not their passport - yep, thats me convinced. It seems someone has been sending us around in circles over illegal immigrants, those are migrants who have no right to be here unless asked for their skills. Which they can apply with those skills in tact. Me thinks they don't actually have any required skills at all and have other reasons for conning the system. What you are doing is confusing migrants with asylum seekers. |
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Post by Handyman on Aug 14, 2023 8:11:40 GMT
The Ukrainians were fleeing from an active War and you are guessing they did not have time to grab some belongings including personal documents, some may not have had time, Poland and other countries simple opened their borders to let them in, they were crossing borders for days , some only got out at the last moment, some refused to leave, some have gone back. The UK agreed to take some of the Refugees but could not come directly to the UK unless they had some ID, that is why Officials and Charities set up help centres to arrange for documentation that allowed them to come to the UK, it was in the news for ages , you appear to have missed it. Some unscrupulous people pretended to have fled the Ukraine to get to the UK, but they were soon found out as bogus refugees arguing about where migrants are coming from handyman is just a red herring. I take on board your points, but this lot in charge of the uk borders at westmsinter are a fucking parody now.
If a government cant control borders, and have a managed migration policy , wihtout bleating about lawyers , the eu , the incompetence of the home office and anything else that comes to mind , then something is seriously wrong.
This is shocking. The uk is a fucking global laughing stock under the tories. The daily staggering from one crises to the next is unblievable. While i have symapthy for you regarding the alternative , surely we can all see this is worse than the last days of the major government , and that we are merely counting down the days now till this lot get booted out firmly where they belong?
I know what drives you and your aggressive stance towards my country, but if you had not noticed the entire EU is full of alleged asylum seekers economic migrants crossing the Med week in week out to enter the EU and some want to get here to the UK, no Government has yet come up with a solution to stop them coming, thousands of people from Mexico Brazil etc are crossing into America in large numbers. Smuggling people is big business for Organised Criminals they make millions every day. |
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Post by thomas on Aug 14, 2023 8:22:35 GMT
arguing about where migrants are coming from handyman is just a red herring. I take on board your points, but this lot in charge of the uk borders at westmsinter are a fucking parody now.
If a government cant control borders, and have a managed migration policy , wihtout bleating about lawyers , the eu , the incompetence of the home office and anything else that comes to mind , then something is seriously wrong.
This is shocking. The uk is a fucking global laughing stock under the tories. The daily staggering from one crises to the next is unblievable. While i have symapthy for you regarding the alternative , surely we can all see this is worse than the last days of the major government , and that we are merely counting down the days now till this lot get booted out firmly where they belong?
I know what drives you and your aggressive stance towards my country, but if you had not noticed the entire EU is full of alleged asylum seekers economic migrants crossing the Med week in week out to enter the EU and some want to get here to the UK, no Government has yet come up with a solution to stop them coming, thousands of people from Mexico Brazil etc are crossing into America in large numbers. Smuggling people is big business for Organised Criminals they make millions every day. i dont have an aggresive stance towards your country. Im pro england , and anti uk. Have i made it some sort of political secret though that im a scottish indy supporter?
Come now handyman. These pathetic excuses and diversions regarding the incompetence of the tory government is wearing thin.
We are told the uk taxpayer is suffering under the highest taxation and cost of living for decades , while the tories waste billions left right and centre , and still cant do the job they were elected to do.
Words fail me at the excuses im reading on here regarding tory incompetence , or the whataboutery .
so if migration is an unsolveable problem no country can deal with , what are you constantly moaning about then?
Perhaps if you stopped joining in with the americans in destabilising parts of the world , migrants wouldnt want to leave the burnt out shitholes you leave behind in iraq ,afhganistan , libya and syria etc.
Then , if you have a properly managed migration policy , headed by a competent government ,that doesnt waste 1.6 billion on a fucking barge tht is uninhabitable , surely a combination of all these things are a starting point?
The tories have had thirteen years , you are out the EU and can no longer blame FOM , but still the excuses and bleating is wearing thin.
By all intents and puposes , this is the most incompetent and corrupt westminster government in modern uk history. The bar is low , but the tories keep taking it lower every day.
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Post by thomas on Aug 14, 2023 8:26:26 GMT
arguing about where migrants are coming from handyman is just a red herring. I take on board your points, but this lot in charge of the uk borders at westmsinter are a fucking parody now.
If a government cant control borders, and have a managed migration policy , wihtout bleating about lawyers , the eu , the incompetence of the home office and anything else that comes to mind , then something is seriously wrong.
This is shocking. The uk is a fucking global laughing stock under the tories. The daily staggering from one crises to the next is unblievable. While i have symapthy for you regarding the alternative , surely we can all see this is worse than the last days of the major government , and that we are merely counting down the days now till this lot get booted out firmly where they belong?
I know what drives you and your aggressive stance towards my country, the idea that the bibi stockholm farce is all part of some nasty scottish aggresive stance and nationalist plot to undermine your country is of course fucking hilarious.
No country in europe wants a tory run banana english republic on their doorstep . If anyone did want to undermine england , lets say russia , all they would have to do is keep handing the tory party large backhanders in brown envelopes..............oh fuck...wait!  |
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Post by Handyman on Aug 14, 2023 8:28:30 GMT
They didn't flee that fast that they forgot the £3500 they need for the payment to the traffickers.. So they had time to grab their money but not their passport - yep, thats me convinced. They did not carry the money, their families paid it for them. At long last he's finally got it, that is why the smugglers take any ID off the alleged asylums seekers economic migrants or those on the run wanted back in their own country, fail to pay and your family back home gets a visit |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 14, 2023 8:30:20 GMT
I know what drives you and your aggressive stance towards my country, but if you had not noticed the entire EU is full of alleged asylum seekers economic migrants crossing the Med week in week out to enter the EU and some want to get here to the UK, no Government has yet come up with a solution to stop them coming, thousands of people from Mexico Brazil etc are crossing into America in large numbers. Smuggling people is big business for Organised Criminals they make millions every day. i dont have an aggresive stance towards your country. Im pro england , and anti uk. Have i made it some sort of political secret though that im a scottish indy supporter?
Come now handyman. These pathetic excuses and diversions regarding the incompetence of the tory government is wearing thin.
We are told the uk taxpayer is suffering under the highest taxation and cost of living for decades , while the tories waste billions left right and centre , and still cant do the job they were elected to do.
Words fail me at the excuses im reading on here regarding tory incompetence , or the whataboutery .
so if migration is an unsolveable problem no country can deal with , what are you constantly moaning about then?
Perhaps if you stopped joining in with the americans in destabilising parts of the world , migrants wouldnt want to leave the burnt out shitholes you leave behind in iraq ,afhganistan , libya and syria etc.
Then , if you have a properly managed migration policy , headed by a competent government ,that doesnt waste 1.6 billion on a fucking barge tht is uninhabitable , surely a combination of all these things are a starting point?
The tories have had thirteen years , you are out the EU and can no longer blame FOM , but still the excuses and bleating is wearing thin.
By all intents and puposes , this is the most incompetent and corrupt westminster government in modern uk history. The bar is low , but the tories keep taking it lower every day.
The problem we have with the Tories they have no backbone, it doesn't matter who is in charge they are shit scared of standing up for this country, they crap their pants at the thought of having to tell Macron to 'fuck right off and sort his border out, or we'll start sanctioning France', starting with their fishing licences.
This is under the Tories, can you imagine if Labour get in to power, the EU will run the UK by the backdoor, Starmer and Blair will sell us out, you will see Macron and the EU play ball under Labour, because they have hit the jackpot, it's as plain as the nose on your face.
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Post by Handyman on Aug 14, 2023 8:33:15 GMT
I know what drives you and your aggressive stance towards my country, the idea that the bibi stockholm farce is all part of some nasty scottish aggresive stance and nationalist plot to undermine your country is of course fucking hilarious.
No country in europe wants a tory run banana english republic on their doorstep . If anyone did want to undermine england , lets say russia , all they would have to do is keep handing the tory party large backhanders in brown envelopes..............oh fuck...wait! As and when I work out what you are on about I may come back to you on your ramblings , but I think it may take a long time, I see the SNP are all paragons of light and virtue have they sorted out their accounts yet ? the Scottish Police are going through them with a fine toothed comb |
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Post by Handyman on Aug 14, 2023 8:35:11 GMT
i dont have an aggresive stance towards your country. Im pro england , and anti uk. Have i made it some sort of political secret though that im a scottish indy supporter?
Come now handyman. These pathetic excuses and diversions regarding the incompetence of the tory government is wearing thin.
We are told the uk taxpayer is suffering under the highest taxation and cost of living for decades , while the tories waste billions left right and centre , and still cant do the job they were elected to do.
Words fail me at the excuses im reading on here regarding tory incompetence , or the whataboutery .
so if migration is an unsolveable problem no country can deal with , what are you constantly moaning about then?
Perhaps if you stopped joining in with the americans in destabilising parts of the world , migrants wouldnt want to leave the burnt out shitholes you leave behind in iraq ,afhganistan , libya and syria etc.
Then , if you have a properly managed migration policy , headed by a competent government ,that doesnt waste 1.6 billion on a fucking barge tht is uninhabitable , surely a combination of all these things are a starting point?
The tories have had thirteen years , you are out the EU and can no longer blame FOM , but still the excuses and bleating is wearing thin.
By all intents and puposes , this is the most incompetent and corrupt westminster government in modern uk history. The bar is low , but the tories keep taking it lower every day.
The problem we have with the Tories they have no backbone, it doesn't matter who is in charge they are shit scared of standing up for this country, they crap their pants at the thought of having to tell Macron to 'fuck right off and sort his border out, or we'll start sanctioning France', starting with their fishing licences.
This is under the Tories, can you imagine if Labour get in to power, the EU will run the UK by the backdoor, Starmer and Blair will sell us out, you will see Macron and the EU play ball under Labour, because they have hit the jackpot, it's as plain as the nose on your face.
I agree , I dread to think what will happen to England if Labour win the up coming GE it fills me with dread |
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Post by Vinny on Aug 14, 2023 8:47:53 GMT
My friend who is a Ukrainian refugee did not come without id.
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