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Post by thomas on Aug 18, 2023 7:12:48 GMT
buccy. I have to say mate ,no wonder you tories have so much trouble with immigration in england when you cant even define who is and isnt british. You tell me im british , and like jonskys posts when he tells moray he is british , but you then do cartwheels and tell me tony blair is scottish?
Now i know expecting consistency from the tory voting armpit of england is like expecting the english conservative government to apply wisdom and prudence to migration policy spending , but sometimes you descend into farce so much it becomes laughable.
Moray and me want to know how you define nationalty today? Now.........is tony scottish , and by default me and my mate moray , or are we british , and by default tony blair?
You cant have it both ways mate , even in tory la la land?
Let's get this straight little Tommy, it was you who used the pronoun 'you' to describe a Scottish PM's choice to follow the US into Iraq. You seemed confused with this. i clarified it above buccy. For the hard of understanding , the "you " meant "you british".
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Post by thomas on Aug 18, 2023 7:14:54 GMT
As we know, it all has to do with what point Bubbles and others are trying to make. Reality and history shift dramatically according to how much they want to make an argument. It is all part of the dishonesty that runs through this forum like a stick of Blackpool rock. There is merit in mentioning different interpretations of reality but shame in creating a reality that doesnt exist merely to make an argument. i am amazed they think it will fly and others are that stupid as to even consider it valid. sometimes you have to feel sorry for the bhoys. Allow them their wee diversions from the latest tory party disasters.
After having fucked up immigration education policing , the nhs , the economy and much else , do you think the tories are trying to through the next election ? Im seriously beginning to wonder.
No government in history can be this inept?
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 18, 2023 7:18:36 GMT
My original point.... ...stands. The "you" as in you british , as tony was one of you? Are you now trying to claim in some torturous way you arent british after all?
Blair is as British as you - so why would you say 'you' when talking about yourself. The correct grammar in that case would be 'we' Or perhaps its just your anti-english bile slipping out..
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 18, 2023 7:29:49 GMT
Let's get this straight little Tommy, it was you who used the pronoun 'you' to describe a Scottish PM's choice to follow the US into Iraq. You seemed confused with this. i clarified it above buccy. For the hard of understanding , the "you " meant "you british". You are British though little Tommy. You're not exactly the sharpest tool in Scotland are you?
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Post by jonksy on Aug 18, 2023 7:38:45 GMT
Still bitching then fellow BRIT... no im happy for you to clarify how you see me and tony as fellow brits. Tell pacifico. Like most tories , he has a hard time understanding how to define nationality , which is why england has so much border problems.
Last time I looked unfortunately Scotland was still tacked onto the UK fellow Brit..
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Post by thomas on Aug 18, 2023 14:27:11 GMT
My original point.... ...stands. The "you" as in you british , as tony was one of you? Are you now trying to claim in some torturous way you arent british after all?
Blair is as British as you - so why would you say 'you' when talking about yourself. The correct grammar in that case would be 'we' Or perhaps its just your anti-english bile slipping out.. i implied earlier blair is british. I also implied im not , as i see myself as scottish. The wiser person would have picked up on the latter , instead , my mate pacifico went for the former and started waffling on about blair being scottish.
My point about "you british" starting wars and destablising regions encouraging mass immigration still stands pacifico.
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Post by thomas on Aug 18, 2023 14:29:04 GMT
i clarified it above buccy. For the hard of understanding , the "you " meant "you british". You are British though little Tommy. You're not exactly the sharpest tool in Scotland are you? Im british but tony blair is scottish ? Run that by me again buccy? I tell you buccy , when we reach rock bottom on this forum we really plum depths dont we wae you and your tortured logic?
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Post by thomas on Aug 18, 2023 14:31:16 GMT
no im happy for you to clarify how you see me and tony as fellow brits. Tell pacifico. Like most tories , he has a hard time understanding how to define nationality , which is why england has so much border problems.
Last time I looked unfortunately Scotland was still tacked onto the UK fellow Brit.. scotland isnt tacked onto the uk jonksy. It is half the uk. When we go , so does the yookay .
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 18, 2023 16:36:40 GMT
Blair is as British as you - so why would you say 'you' when talking about yourself. The correct grammar in that case would be 'we' Or perhaps its just your anti-english bile slipping out.. i implied earlier blair is british. I also implied im not , as i see myself as scottish. The wiser person would have picked up on the latter , instead , my mate pacifico went for the former and started waffling on about blair being scottish.
My point about "you british" starting wars and destablising regions encouraging mass immigration still stands pacifico.
You can see yourself as a 20 year old blond bimbo with size 38 tits if you want - that wont change a thing. You and Blair will still be one and the same.
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Post by jonksy on Aug 18, 2023 17:33:11 GMT
Last time I looked unfortunately Scotland was still tacked onto the UK fellow Brit.. scotland isnt tacked onto the uk jonksy. It is half the uk. When we go , so does the yookay .
Well there ya go then fellow Brit..Good innit?
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Post by thomas on Aug 20, 2023 12:03:30 GMT
i implied earlier blair is british. I also implied im not , as i see myself as scottish. The wiser person would have picked up on the latter , instead , my mate pacifico went for the former and started waffling on about blair being scottish.
My point about "you british" starting wars and destablising regions encouraging mass immigration still stands pacifico.
You can see yourself as a 20 year old blond bimbo with size 38 tits if you want - that wont change a thing. You and Blair will still be one and the same. still trying to tell people who they are and what their national identity is pacifico? As i said earleir to john of gwent , you british are ill. Seriously.
two thirds of scottish people in the last published census data saw themselves as scottish only , while a mere 6 % saw themselves as british only.
You can sit crying all day long to anyone who wants to listen to you , it wont change a single thing. Im not arrogant enough to presume to tell people what their nationality is....i simply go by what they tell me.
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 20, 2023 14:54:57 GMT
You can see yourself as a 20 year old blond bimbo with size 38 tits if you want - that wont change a thing. You and Blair will still be one and the same. still trying to tell people who they are and what their national identity is pacifico? As i said earleir to john of gwent , you british are ill. Seriously.
two thirds of scottish people in the last published census data saw themselves as scottish only , while a mere 6 % saw themselves as british only.
You can sit crying all day long to anyone who wants to listen to you , it wont change a single thing. Im not arrogant enough to presume to tell people what their nationality is....i simply go by what they tell me.
What nationality does it say you are on your passport?
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Post by thomas on Aug 20, 2023 15:01:29 GMT
still trying to tell people who they are and what their national identity is pacifico? As i said earleir to john of gwent , you british are ill. Seriously.
two thirds of scottish people in the last published census data saw themselves as scottish only , while a mere 6 % saw themselves as british only.
You can sit crying all day long to anyone who wants to listen to you , it wont change a single thing. Im not arrogant enough to presume to tell people what their nationality is....i simply go by what they tell me.
What nationality does it say you are on your passport? I have three bits of paper telling me about nationality.
My birth certificate is scottish. My marriage certificate tells me my nation is scotland . My european passport tells me im both a european and british citizen.
As i said , nationality is a mindset. If you want to argue though its about bits of paper , and documentation , then the evidence is im overhwhlemingly scottish.
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Post by om15 on Aug 20, 2023 15:12:57 GMT
You don't have a European Passport, Europe is not a Country and does not (cannot) issue European Passports. So in this instance your parochial Scottish rubbish demonstrates your typical Scottish untruths. You have a British Passport issued in Britain and you are under the protection of His Majesty the King.
You may well claim to be overwhelming Scottish, (good for you), but legally you are a British Subject, all other claims are bizarre nonsense.
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 20, 2023 15:18:13 GMT
What nationality does it say you are on your passport? I have three bits of paper telling me about nationality.
My birth certificate is scottish. My marriage certificate tells me my nation is scotland . My european passport tells me im both a european and british citizen.
As i said , nationality is a mindset. If you want to argue though its about bits of paper , and documentation , then the evidence is im overhwhlemingly scottish.
So I can imagine that I am American and get residency?. The fact is that you have the same bits of paper as Tony Blair yet he is not scottish and you are..
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