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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 10, 2023 13:30:20 GMT
Two RNLI lifeboats arrived in Dover today with the last few dozen migrants needed to take the total number of arrivals over 100,000 since records began in January 2018. If anyone had predicted that at the time he would have been denounced as a raving lunatic. And yet.
Tory deputy chairman Lee Anderson is said to be 'very angry'. Who isn't?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2023 13:37:13 GMT
That' about 20,000 per year not enough to fill a premier league football ground.
One has to wonder, at that sort of low rate, why we have a backlog of 170,000 asylum seekers waiting to be processed and living in hotels.
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 10, 2023 13:39:53 GMT
Since the beginning of 2018 the UK has received 227,000 claims for asylum, so obviously not all have arrived by small boat. Traditional routings are still in operation and sharing the load.
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Post by jonksy on Aug 10, 2023 13:49:22 GMT
Two RNLI lifeboats arrived in Dover today with the last few dozen migrants needed to take the total number of arrivals over 100,000 since records began in January 2018. If anyone had predicted that at the time he would have been denounced as a raving lunatic. And yet.
Tory deputy chairman Lee Anderson is said to be 'very angry'. Who isn't?
95% of the UK don't want the fuckers here at all.
Latest UK politics news as over 50% of Britons don’t want migrants housed in tents and Tories split on crisis
Tents bought by Suella Braverman to house thousands of asylum seekers could be put up at RAF Wethersfield in Essex, i has revealed.
The majority of the British public do not believe that accommodating asylum seekers on barges will deter people from coming to the UK in a small boat, a YouGov survey conducted for The Times has suggested. In the same survey, more than half of voters said they do not think it is acceptable for migrants to be housed in tents.
A vessel prepares to moor next to the Bibby Stockholm immigration barge in Portland Port. (Photo: Finnbarr Webster/Getty Images)
Conservative infighting over the Government’s asylum policy – including whether the UK could quit Europe’s human rights framework – continues. And more asylum seekers boarded the Bibby Stockholm barge in Portland Port, Dorset, on Wednesday.
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Post by dappy on Aug 10, 2023 13:57:20 GMT
Since the beginning of 2018 the UK has received 227,000 claims for asylum, so obviously not all have arrived by small boat. Traditional routings are still in operation and sharing the load. Feels about right Dan. Why then did you highlight and focus on just one method of arrival? Is it because that method tends to make better photo opportunities for the tabloids? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2023 14:04:10 GMT
Since the beginning of 2018 the UK has received 227,000 claims for asylum, so obviously not all have arrived by small boat. Traditional routings are still in operation and sharing the load. So why is small boats the big story? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 10, 2023 14:05:43 GMT
The Guardian is making an attempt at damage control in response to anxious questionings from readers who want to know whether they should be worried about this important milestone being reached. The official Guardian line is that the numbers of small-boat arrivals, indeed the number of asylum claimants generally are piffling compared to the annual overall influx of immigrants. A reader: " Please could we have some context for the number of small boat arrivals v the overall immigration numbers? I think I saw a suggestion that most immigrants are on business visas, specific country schemes or students, and that boat arrivals are actually negligible in comparison. Is this so?The Guardians trills soothingly:
The reader is right. The people who arrive in the UK in small boats are only a tiny proportion of the overall number of immigrants coming to the UK every year...And asylum seekers as a whole – the small boats ones, and the other ones – are still only a small fraction of the total annual immigration cohort.
So that's all right then.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2023 14:06:59 GMT
Two RNLI lifeboats arrived in Dover today with the last few dozen migrants needed to take the total number of arrivals over 100,000 since records began in January 2018. If anyone had predicted that at the time he would have been denounced as a raving lunatic. And yet.
Tory deputy chairman Lee Anderson is said to be 'very angry'. Who isn't?
95% of the UK don't want the fuckers here at all.
Latest UK politics news as over 50% of Britons don’t want migrants housed in tents and Tories split on crisis
Tents bought by Suella Braverman to house thousands of asylum seekers could be put up at RAF Wethersfield in Essex, i has revealed.
The majority of the British public do not believe that accommodating asylum seekers on barges will deter people from coming to the UK in a small boat, a YouGov survey conducted for The Times has suggested. In the same survey, more than half of voters said they do not think it is acceptable for migrants to be housed in tents.
A vessel prepares to moor next to the Bibby Stockholm immigration barge in Portland Port. (Photo: Finnbarr Webster/Getty Images)
Conservative infighting over the Government’s asylum policy – including whether the UK could quit Europe’s human rights framework – continues. And more asylum seekers boarded the Bibby Stockholm barge in Portland Port, Dorset, on Wednesday.
How do you know 95% of the UK do not want migrants here? Of course you are lying, a leopard and all that. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 10, 2023 14:37:18 GMT
Since the beginning of 2018 the UK has received 227,000 claims for asylum, so obviously not all have arrived by small boat. Traditional routings are still in operation and sharing the load. Feels about right Dan. Why then did you highlight and focus on just one method of arrival? Is it because that method tends to make better photo opportunities for the tabloids? I should have thought the answer obvious dappy. Images of boats full of migrants disembarking at Dover or getting off a beached lifeboat somewhere have an immediacy and communicative power that a hundred press reports of a few clandestines slipping out of the back of a lorry simply cannot convey.
It reawakens atavistic fears of invasion that are never far below the surface.
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Post by dappy on Aug 10, 2023 14:45:08 GMT
That sounds about right Dan. Pictures are a more effective tool for scaring and brainwashing the gullible than words - especially perhaps the GB Newswatchers.
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 10, 2023 14:56:32 GMT
I suspect the effects are more generalised and widespread than you would wish them to be.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 10, 2023 15:01:17 GMT
Two RNLI lifeboats arrived in Dover today with the last few dozen migrants needed to take the total number of arrivals over 100,000 since records began in January 2018. If anyone had predicted that at the time he would have been denounced as a raving lunatic. And yet.
Tory deputy chairman Lee Anderson is said to be 'very angry'. Who isn't?
Most people are angry, and getting angrier by the day. This monstrous abuse of antiquated laws must be stopped, and I think as the election gets ever closer the government will want to be seen to stop it. People don't want tough talk, they have had enough of that, they want action. |
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Post by dappy on Aug 10, 2023 15:06:37 GMT
Probably fair Dan.
In this instance though, you would presumably agree that the Government and Farage and co have seized on the opportunities that photo opportunities in supportive tabloids have presented to stir up hatred against a group of people and thereby seek votes and power on the back of such hatred while diverting attention from the abject failure they are making of running the important public services in the country. Those photo opportunities would have been diminished and hence the asylum "issue" far less prevalent if the same number of people were arriving by less photogenic methods.
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Post by jonksy on Aug 10, 2023 15:12:18 GMT
Probably fair Dan. In this instance though, you would presumably agree that the Government and Farage and co have seized on the opportunities that photo opportunities in supportive tabloids have presented to stir up hatred against a group of people and thereby seek votes and power on the back of such hatred while diverting attention from the abject failure they are making of running the important public services in the country. Those photo opportunities would have been diminished and hence the asylum "issue" far less prevalent if the same number of people were arriving by less photogenic methods. Grow up FFS. |
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Post by wapentake on Aug 10, 2023 15:16:25 GMT
That sounds about right Dan. Pictures are a more effective tool for scaring and brainwashing the gullible than words - especially perhaps the GB Newswatchers. You adopt an air of superiority that is totally misplaced. |
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