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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 8, 2023 22:17:04 GMT
You are correct, the problem is the UK government. They could stop cross channel illegals entering British waters and if they did the law is on their side. Unfortunately we have a weak centrist government who choose to appease the EU rather than impose international law.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 9, 2023 13:32:59 GMT
BTW that "twat" is still indisting that migrants can be returned to France... No he isn't, but nice rant. |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 9, 2023 15:19:40 GMT
You are correct, the problem is the UK government. They could stop cross channel illegals entering British waters and if they did the law is on their side. Unfortunately we have a weak centrist government who choose to appease the EU rather than impose international law. Stop the silly and unnecessary provocation. Your migration issues are not due to appeasing the EU. Before you left the EU you could have returned them to the EU bia rhe Dublin Agreement. YOU severed that privilege. |
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Post by wapentake on Aug 9, 2023 17:35:40 GMT
You are correct, the problem is the UK government. They could stop cross channel illegals entering British waters and if they did the law is on their side. Unfortunately we have a weak centrist government who choose to appease the EU rather than impose international law. Stop the silly and unnecessary provocation. Your migration issues are not due to appeasing the EU. Before you left the EU you could have returned them to the EU bia rhe Dublin Agreement. YOU severed that privilege. Oh dear brexit has upset you,long may it continue. Apparently you don’t live here so what are you moaning about? |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 9, 2023 19:49:54 GMT
Stop the silly and unnecessary provocation. Your migration issues are not due to appeasing the EU. Before you left the EU you could have returned them to the EU bia rhe Dublin Agreement. YOU severed that privilege. Oh dear brexit has upset you,long may it continue. Apparently you don’t live here so what are you moaning about? FFS how many more times do i have to re0ly to this. You watching?? I PAY TAXES TO THIS RIDICULOUS GOVERNMENT which spzmends it. you dont have to LIVE there to be a citizen with the right to own property and vote. GOVERNMENT. Now boggoff. Get off me and my life of which you know absolute zero. Now i also have to think you know absolute zero about the Dublin Agreement. Look it up. Think you can do that without looking pointless? |
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Post by wapentake on Aug 9, 2023 20:16:35 GMT
Oh dear brexit has upset you,long may it continue. Apparently you don’t live here so what are you moaning about? FFS how many more times do i have to re0ly to this You watching?? I PAY TAXES TO THIS RIDICULOUS GOVERNMENT which spzmends it. you dont have to LIVE there to be a citizen with the right to own property and vote. GOVERNMENT. Now boggoff. Get off me and my life of which you know absolute zero.  |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 9, 2023 20:33:21 GMT
Neither have i attacked you personally, or tried to discredit you.
I am not the subject of this or any other thread. After over a year of these personal attacks, i am utterly fed up with them.
Just to be clear, i am a citizen of three countries and own property which creates an income in two of them.
Therefore i pay taxes and vote at various levels...local, regional, national and pay income tax in two of them.
Is that now clear?
I am not even going to staemrt on the Kim thing
It seems anyone who expresses dissatisfaction with Brexit is called Kim in here.
And when if ever you wrote to a French discussion group, i shall correct your spelling.
Ok?
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 9, 2023 20:42:49 GMT
I share Lee Anderson's sentiment.
It's about time a politician represented the views of many people in Britain. The frustration with this ongoing debacle needs to be raised in no uncertain terms.
Lefty lawyers, certain Labour candidates and charities all aiding and abetting illegal immigrants using 'loop-holes' in human rights conventions can also fuck off with them.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 9, 2023 21:02:04 GMT
Neither have i attacked you personally, or tried to discredit you. I am not the subject of this or any other thread. After over a year of these personal attacks, i am utterly fed up with them. Just to be clear, i am a citizen of three countries and own property which creates an income in two of them. Therefore i pay taxes and vote at various levels...local, regional, national and pay income tax in two of them. Is that now clear? I am not even going to staemrt on the Kim thing It seems anyone who expresses dissatisfaction with Brexit is called Kim in here. And when if ever you wrote to a French discussion group, i shall correct your spelling. Ok? I’ve never called you Kim and didn’t staemrt anything  However telling another poster to bog off is a personal attack not that it bothers me I’ve had far worse. So that’s two falsehoods,citizen of three countries? Isn’t two more than enough,up to you but give up on being a Brit and what happens here wouldn’t cost you would it? |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 9, 2023 21:42:28 GMT
Why should i give up any of my citizenships?
One courtesy of a parent, one courtesy of where i was born and one of my choice.
Would you give up any of your identity,?
I cant "give up" a citizenship. Even if i could it would screw up my tax status. I enjoy being part of three nations, three cultures.
Now lets get back to the thread.
I repeat. Migrants have no connection to France in any legal way until they apply for asylum. France is not responsible for them, owe them anything including protection. They do not have a legal presence in any of the countries they passed through other than their own.
France has no responsibility to take them and any returning of them to France is, I am afraid, people trafficking. The UN and international law does not allow people to be moved around like packages without their consent.
Other countries have had migrant problems for far longer and in far greater numbers than the UK. BY LAW Germany and France MUST deal with them inside 6 months. France had a backlog of 47,000 applicants at the end of 2022.The UK numbers into the hundreds of thousands.
Europe s4cur3d a deal with Turkey to house all migrants wanting to stay in the EU. THhis is behind the Rwanda 0lan bit once approved, they could start the countdown to apply for citizenship...5 or 6 years. But once in Rwanda the migrants are severed from any future connection to the UK.
This is a large part of the appeals because it breaks UN law.
I am afraid it wont get any better. Climate, tribzl wars and religious fundamentalists wont help reduce the terrorism.
The problem is not the migrants. The problem is the government.
My prrsonal objection is to Albanian migrants who DO come originally from a safe country. I would send them all back and process them there.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 9, 2023 21:50:07 GMT
Why should i give up any of my citizenships? One courtesy of a parent, one courtesy of where i was born and one of my choice. Would you give up any of your identity,? I didn’t say you had to I said it was up to you but you are the one complaining of tax paid and this govt. I note you ignore that I’ve never called you Kim and telling me to bog off. |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 9, 2023 22:06:48 GMT
I share Lee Anderson's sentiment. It's about time a politician represented the views of many people in Britain. The frustration with this ongoing debacle needs to be raised in no uncertain terms. Lefty lawyers, certain Labour candidates and charities all aiding and abetting illegal immigrants using 'loop-holes' in human rights conventions can also fuck off with them. There are no loopholes in refugee and migrant law. They have been tested to destruction The UK has been trying to make some. |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 9, 2023 22:13:37 GMT
Why should i give up any of my citizenships? One courtesy of a parent, one courtesy of where i was born and one of my choice. Would you give up any of your identity,? I didn’t say you had to I said it was up to you but you are the one complaining of tax paid and this govt. I note you ignore that I’ve never called you Kim and telling me to bog off. I did not complain about paying taxes. I obey 5he laws. Nit i need an income. I am no different than anyone else. One of my prpperti3s czme through a will. Shall i just let the place fall down when like anyone else i can rent it out? I mentioned Kim because you attacked me based on what others told you. I have gone way past caring but wanted to set the record straight witj you since you went for me via gossip. Not a smart move.Best avoid using gossip to discredit others. |
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Post by wapentake on Aug 9, 2023 22:19:16 GMT
I didn’t say you had to I said it was up to you but you are the one complaining of tax paid and this govt. I note you ignore that I’ve never called you Kim and telling me to bog off. I did not complain about paying taxes. I obey 5he laws. Nit i need an income. I am no different than anyone else. One of my prpperti3s czme through a will. Shall i just let the place fall down when like anyone else i can rent it out? I mentioned Kim because you attacked me based on what others told you. I have gone way past caring but wanted to set the record straight witj you since you went for me via gossip. Not a smart move.Best avoid using gossip to discredit others. To the bits in bold,What? Go for you?No disagreed and have no idea of the gossip to which you refer,to repeat discredit no disagree yes. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 10, 2023 7:28:20 GMT
Funny how Kim was a citizen of two countries yesterday and now it's three today.
Almost like she's making it up. Again.
But I guess that's just Kim doing Kim things,
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