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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2023 8:53:51 GMT
Labour are a distraction, this is a Tory mess. You mean you cannot answer and that you have only criticisms and no solutions. I mean Labour are not running the country and have nothing to do with the present asylum crisis, it's really simple. |
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Post by jonksy on Aug 8, 2023 8:58:07 GMT
You mean you cannot answer and that you have only criticisms and no solutions. I mean Labour are not running the country and have nothing to do with the present asylum crisis, it's really simple. When has the country been run by the elected government? |
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Post by jonksy on Aug 8, 2023 9:00:13 GMT
Duplicate post
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Post by wapentake on Aug 8, 2023 9:06:34 GMT
You mean you cannot answer and that you have only criticisms and no solutions. I mean Labour are not running the country and have nothing to do with the present asylum crisis, it's really simple. It was a simple question,do you have any ideas or solutions to this problem. |
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Post by wapentake on Aug 8, 2023 9:12:23 GMT
I agree.. The standard and quantity of our social housing is appalling. It started with Thatcher's disastrous policy of selling off council houses and refusing t allow the money raised to be spent on replacement stock all for gerrymandering. Successive governments have failed to grasp the issue. Shame on them all (of both sides) International law was not the issue why 20 people succeeded in legal challenges against our law breaking government again yesterday. But international law is the issue regarding people smuggling and economic migrants who are not asylum seekers and the legal sharks preventing temporary solutions to the accommodation of such people. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2023 9:19:09 GMT
I mean Labour are not running the country and have nothing to do with the present asylum crisis, it's really simple. It was a simple question,do you have any ideas or solutions to this problem. Process them in France. |
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Post by wapentake on Aug 8, 2023 9:28:33 GMT
It was a simple question,do you have any ideas or solutions to this problem. Process them in France. And tell them they can’t come without documents and proof of status or remain in the squalor in France that nobody really cares to criticise but reserve all their anger for this country and purely on party political lines. |
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Post by dappy on Aug 8, 2023 9:29:14 GMT
I agree.. The standard and quantity of our social housing is appalling. It started with Thatcher's disastrous policy of selling off council houses and refusing t allow the money raised to be spent on replacement stock all for gerrymandering. Successive governments have failed to grasp the issue. Shame on them all (of both sides) International law was not the issue why 20 people succeeded in legal challenges against our law breaking government again yesterday. But international law is the issue regarding people smuggling and economic migrants who are not asylum seekers and the legal sharks preventing temporary solutions to the accommodation of such people. People here to claim asylum are asylum seekers Wapentake. I did post a thread not so long ago asking people to define what changes to international law they would like to see. There was little uptake. |
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Post by jonksy on Aug 8, 2023 9:30:21 GMT
It was a simple question,do you have any ideas or solutions to this problem. Process them in France. Its the bloody Frogs who are ushering over the channel. How much more do you want the UK to put into frogland coffers? |
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Post by wapentake on Aug 8, 2023 9:36:44 GMT
But international law is the issue regarding people smuggling and economic migrants who are not asylum seekers and the legal sharks preventing temporary solutions to the accommodation of such people. People here to claim asylum are asylum seekers Wapentake. I did post a thread not so long ago asking people to define what changes to international law they would like to see. There was little uptake. Do you accept there are bogus asylum seekers who are nothing more than economic migrants or criminals fleeting justice. |
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Post by dappy on Aug 8, 2023 9:42:03 GMT
Of course some people seeking asylum are in reality "economic migrants". Odd question. Actually in the real world it is a spectrum rather than absolute.
it is entirely right that we should examine claims and where it is found they do not meet the threshhold for granting asylum, where at all possible the failed claimant (after one appeal) should be expected to leave.
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 8, 2023 9:47:20 GMT
But international law is the issue regarding people smuggling and economic migrants who are not asylum seekers and the legal sharks preventing temporary solutions to the accommodation of such people. People here to claim asylum are asylum seekers Wapentake. I did post a thread not so long ago asking people to define what changes to international law they would like to see. There was little uptake. Since Brexit there is now very little international law concerning the handling of asylum claimants and their support that applies to the UK.
It's almost all defined in domestic law which Parliament can change as it wishes. There is no international law, as far as the UK is concerned, that requires that asylum seekers must be cared for in a particular way, to a certain standard or even at all. That is something that successive governments have chosen to do and in the process created a monster.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 8, 2023 9:51:55 GMT
People here to claim asylum are asylum seekers Wapentake. I did post a thread not so long ago asking people to define what changes to international law they would like to see. There was little uptake. Since Brexit there is now very little international law concerning the handling of asylum claimants and their support that applies to the UK.
It's almost all defined in domestic law which Parliament can change as it wishes. There is no international law, as far as the UK is concerned, that requires that asylum seekers must be cared for in a particular way, to a certain standard or even at all. That is something that successive governments have chosen to do and in the process created a monster.
What’s brexit got to do with it,there are international laws concerning asylum. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 8, 2023 9:53:19 GMT
Regarding the barge, what appears to have happened by way of a 'legal challenge' is that Duncan Lewis, acting as the legal representative of a number of allegedly hydrophobic claimants, sent letters of 'pre-action' to the Home Office threatening legal action if their clients were put on the barge. On what grounds isn't clear, probably human rights, but anyway the HO took fright and caved in.
There was no court appearance, no injunction and nothing at all in the way of what is normally understood as a 'legal challenge'.
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 8, 2023 9:55:25 GMT
What’s brexit got to do with it,there are international laws concerning asylum. What laws? There are a number of EU Directives on the topic but none of those apply anymore to the UK. |
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