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Post by Vinny on Mar 12, 2023 8:45:24 GMT
Abolish the regional devolved governments and have one nation. We're British. And the European Union isn't Europe, it's just a badly run political union that overpays French farmers and wealthy land owners whilst encouraging the Dutch government to put farmers in the Netherlands out of business.
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Post by thomas on Mar 12, 2023 14:00:45 GMT
Abolish the regional devolved governments and have one nation. We're British. And the European Union isn't Europe, it's just a badly run political union that overpays French farmers and wealthy land owners whilst encouraging the Dutch government to put farmers in the Netherlands out of business. abolish the westminster regional assembly , and have one EU. We are european.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 12, 2023 14:54:55 GMT
Europe is 50 countries, the EU is 27. 17.41 million voters from all parts of our country voted leave. Remain lost. Get over it. Loser.
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Post by thomas on Mar 12, 2023 15:33:33 GMT
Europe is 50 countries, the EU is 27. 17.41 million voters from all parts of our country voted leave. Remain lost. Get over it. Loser. ...and the uk is three countries and a province of a fourth . Not for much longer though.
The province remains part of the european union ,and scotland wish to rejoin our european union is self explanatory. Even in englandshire, public opinion is swinging against brexit .
Tic tok vinny. I will be voting pro european parties as normal at the next election. As i have done at every election throughout my life.
Can brexiters hold on for much longer.....that really is the question.?
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Post by Vinny on Mar 12, 2023 16:01:53 GMT
The UK is one sovereign country a composite of four non sovereign ones. And it is here to stay, Scotland doesn't want the Sturgeon Nazi Party vision of anti English hate. Scotland wants to remain in its biggest market (the UK). Trade with the EU is insignificant to Scots. Trade with the UK is worth an additional £51.2bn. You have no economic or social case for breaking away. The only international supporter of Scottish separatism is Putin, who wants the UK to get rid of Trident and NATO to break up. We've seen in the last year just how important Trident and NATO are. The Sturgeon Nazis would do in both.
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Post by thomas on Mar 12, 2023 16:47:56 GMT
The UK is one sovereign country a composite of four non sovereign ones. Its a multi national state , with the old unitary state ceasing to exist nearly a quarter of a century ago by a mass majority support.
latest poll.... Should Scotland be an independent country? (Scot Goes Pop / Find Out Now, 1st - 9th March 2023) Yes 52% No 48%
err 500 million customers in our european union quite obviously are a bigger market than 55 million people in england.
economically the union has been a disaster for us . You keep banging on about the gers figures as a barometer of scotland performance in the uk which apparently show uk membership in a bad light.
As for the social case for ending the union , i think its clear being part of a larger demcoratic union with 27 other states who we have far more in common with , rather than being isolated by a right wing authoritarian state who deny scots democracy , is very clear to the majority of scots.
The scottish first minister and much of our political eleite are banned from russia. The only person i know who asked russias favour in helping was cameron when he asked putin to help stop scot indy.
Putin though as we all know was a massive supporter of little englands brexit.
The yookay cant afford to lease american nukes anymore. When scotland gets independence , they are gone off our soil .
The scottish government support NATO membership.
Meanwhile the tide is turning in englandshire and across the yookay to right wing crackpots and tory brexiters over their attempts to isolate our islands from our european union.
As of March 2023, 54 percent of people in Great Britain thought that it was wrong to leave the European Union, compared with 33 percent who thought it was the right decision. During this time period, the share of people who regret Brexit has been slightly higher than those who support it,
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Post by Vinny on Mar 12, 2023 16:53:42 GMT
The UK is internationally recognised as being a sovereign country much to the chargrin of little Scotlander Sturgeon Nazi Party cultists. www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/united-kingdom/And Trident costs £5.56bn a year. EU membership was costing £9bn post rebate. We wouldn't get a rebate if we rejoined so it would be £20bn+ a year. If we can't afford Trident we can't afford EU membership costs either, cultist. Your arguments are invalid. Stop trying to bully Scotland into an insane trap that it's already democratically proven that it does not want.
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Post by thomas on Mar 12, 2023 17:15:33 GMT
and the uk government itself call it a multi national state. For example browns government stood at the UN and described the uk as two countries a principality and a province. Cameron called the uk "a family of nations" etc etc.
You cant get a bigger authority of what the uk is than its own government.
so england will have no trouble funding it in england when scotland leaves? Good.
Northern ireland costs 12 billion , but you are still desperately trying to hold onto that .....just about anyway.
Good. If the uk does rejoin it should pay its way instead of all this exceptionalism rubbish. We should use the euro as well .
or northern ireland isolationist.
More importantly scotland cannot afford the uk....
the majority voted to remain in the eu . What are you talking about? You lost the vote in scotland.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 12, 2023 23:36:43 GMT
The UK government calls the UK a sovereign country. Theresa May did in 2016 in response to mad Angus Robertson (who lost his seat in the 2017 election). The majority of the sovereign country voted to leave the EU, the majority vote included the vote of Scots. Get fucking over it LOSER. Scotland is a Kingdom, it isn't a proper country. A proper country has its own passport. Its own driving licence, its own trade policy, border and customs rules, immigration rules, full fiscal control over its currency including the ability to set interest rates and control inflation. Scotland is not such a thing, nor are the separatists proposing for it to have sovereignty. The Scottish separatists are anti English racist bigots who want to cut their noses to spite their faces. They are arseholes. No different to the arseholes of the BNP. And I've met too many shitbags from the BNP. I spent decades trying to undermine those bastards.
And with Brexit, I've done my bit, we've succeeded. The BNP are a spent force who will never ever see so much as a council election win, ever again.
The SNP will be next. The Sturgeon Nazis need consigning to the history books the same way the Griffin Nazis were.
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Post by thomas on Mar 14, 2023 8:57:38 GMT
Scotland is a Kingdom, it isn't a proper country. FFS. Did you know the uk stands for the united kingdom vinny?
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Post by Vinny on Mar 14, 2023 12:55:44 GMT
FFS do you not understand that the UK is a sovereign country?
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Post by thomas on Mar 15, 2023 9:13:51 GMT
FFS do you not understand that the UK is a sovereign country? im only pointing out that the name of your so called sovereign country is the united kingdom. You risibly waffle on about scotland "only" being a kingdom , while running away from the fact your own "sovereign country" is also called a kingdom.
I tell you vinny , no matter what the debate, you never fail to blow off one of your toes during conversation do you?
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Post by Vinny on Mar 15, 2023 11:00:44 GMT
The UK is a composite sovereign country. Scotland is a constituent Kingdom within it. If the monarchy is ever abolished we'll be the United States of Great Britain. Scotland will be a constituent state inside it when the time comes, my little xenophobe.
The UK provides sales of £51.2 bn to Scottish businesses. It is here to stay.
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Post by thomas on Mar 16, 2023 8:34:32 GMT
If the monarchy is ever abolished we'll be the United States of Great Britain. Northern ireland isnt in great britian , hence the curent name the united kingdom of great britian and northern ireland. Jezzoo vinny , for someone who whines daily of your love of the yookay , you really do confuse yourself when screeching about it.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 16, 2023 9:50:27 GMT
Regarding Northern Ireland. The last referendum on whether Northern Ireland should unite with the Republic, was fifty years and eight days ago. A generation has passed. Give them another. If they leave? Excellent, the UVF and UDA cease to be our problem and become a problem for the Republic instead. Ireland is not geographically part of Great Britain. The people of Northern Ireland are Irish, not British. ........................... Regarding Scotland. £51.2bn of Scotland's exports are to the rest of the UK. Scotland wants to keep things that way. Sturgeon Fuhrer is out. Your dream is dead Thomas.
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